Bowker

4 for 40 since his first 4 games......it was fun while it lasted,
well, for 4 games.

On Apr 29, 9:52*pm, giantforever <t_marov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 4 for 40 since his first 4 games......it was fun while it lasted,
> well, for 4 games.

send him down, call up nate schierholtz.

Ortmeier has not been really given a chance. I saw where Lance Niekro was
invited tot he Astros camp this spring .. I wonder what happened to him?


"Jesse Radin" <electricbassguy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 29, 9:52 pm, giantforever <t_marov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 4 for 40 since his first 4 games......it was fun while it lasted,
> well, for 4 games.

send him down, call up nate schierholtz.

"Wookie" <Tom@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ortmeier has not been really given a chance. I saw where Lance Niekro was
> invited tot he Astros camp this spring .. I wonder what happened to him?
>
>
> "Jesse Radin" <electricbassguy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:95457c64-93c0-4765-b056-ff83c32e68eb@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 29, 9:52 pm, giantforever <t_marov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 4 for 40 since his first 4 games......it was fun while it lasted,
>> well, for 4 games.
>
> send him down, call up nate schierholtz.
>I guess Niekro is an unhappy camper

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:12:40 -0700, "Wookie" <Tom@comcast.net> wrote:

>Ortmeier has not been really given a chance.

Ortmeier stinks.
--
Greg Lentz

On Apr 29, 9:52*pm, giantforever <t_marov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 4 for 40 since his first 4 games......it was fun while it lasted,
> well, for 4 games.

He can play 1B which buys him some slack. As just another OF I'd send
him down. But at 1B there's no better alternative. He's shown he has
power potential when he isn't grounding out.

What I've noticed during his slump is that he's in such a freakin'
hurry in the batters box, like he's double-parked or needs to cut back
on caffeine. Not real picky about what he swings at, and he swings a
lot. He looked much more patient when he first came up. I bet the
scouting reports now say pitch him down and in, he'll swing.

Ortmeier had his chances and has proven to be a consistently below
average hitter. You'll say Bowker only had one really good weekend,
but Ortmeier never even had that. Bowker at least has the potential
to go on another tear.

-Pat

Greg Lentz <nodamnspam@speakeasy.net> wrote in
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> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:12:40 -0700, "Wookie" <Tom@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ortmeier has not been really given a chance.
>
> Ortmeier stinks.

Yup. There's no reason to give him a chance in the majors.

Meanwhile, in cheap talent news, two guys are now available: Jason
Botts, passing through waivers by the Rangers, and Brad Wilkerson,
released by the Mariners.

I'm not a Botts fan. I don't really see any reason to put him ahead of
Lewis, Bowker, or Nate S....he might make it as a major leaguer, but
they might too, and I don't really think his chances of being worth
something are higher.

OTOH, I've always liked Wilkerson quite a bit. He's not going to be a
star, and would be unlikely to be a plus player on the next good Giants
team, but he certainly could have three good months and have some trade
value. I'd rather have him on the team than Castillo, Aurilia, or
Ortmeier. Because he's getting old, he doesn't have the upside that Dan
Johnson would have had, but I would still be moderately happy if Sabean
picked him up.

One more thing: it looks like Posada is going to only be out a month,
but I sure hope that Sabean has been on the phone with the Yankees --
any time a starting catcher for a contender sneezes, Sabean needs to be
reminding them that Molina can be had for the right combination of
prospects.

JHB

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:52:53 -0700 (PDT), giantforever
<t_marovich@hotmail.com> wrote:

>4 for 40 since his first 4 games......it was fun while it lasted,
>well, for 4 games.

It's not like he's having poor AB's, he's still hitting the ball hard
just bad luck right now. Give him time, he will come out of it.

"Jonathan Bernstein" <jhb@socrates.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> Greg Lentz <nodamnspam@speakeasy.net> wrote in
> news:61bh149ufbm0v5s0inlc2n9dds83f5si51@4ax.com:
>
> > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:12:40 -0700, "Wookie" <Tom@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Ortmeier has not been really given a chance.
> >
> > Ortmeier stinks.
>
> Yup. There's no reason to give him a chance in the majors.

Given the team is not going anywhere, I think we'd still rather see Bowker,
but man, he's trying his best to lose his job, ain't he?


> OTOH, I've always liked Wilkerson quite a bit. He's not going to be a
> star, and would be unlikely to be a plus player on the next good Giants
> team, but he certainly could have three good months and have some trade
> value.

If that's the plan, then forget it, 'cause Sabean would never trade him if
he has 3 good months. He might dump him if he stinks, that's about it.


> One more thing: it looks like Posada is going to only be out a month,
> but I sure hope that Sabean has been on the phone with the Yankees --
> any time a starting catcher for a contender sneezes, Sabean needs to be
> reminding them that Molina can be had for the right combination of
> prospects.

I can't picture him trading Molina either. Whatever offense they have now
would really be gone if he's gone, and the front office wouldn't want to see
that.

On Apr 30, 2:54�pm, Jonathan Bernstein <j...@socrates.berkeley.edu>
wrote:
>
> OTOH, I've always liked Wilkerson quite a bit. �He's not going to be a
> star, and would be unlikely to be a plus player on the next good Giants
> team, but he certainly could have three good months and have some trade
> value. �I'd rather have him on the team than Castillo, Aurilia, or
> Ortmeier. �Because he's getting old, he doesn't have the upside that Dan
> Johnson would have had, but I would still be moderately happy if Sabean
> picked him up.

Seattle dumped him because they are going younger and the Giants
should too.
Wilkerson probably is a better hitter than Castillo but he can't play
third and they won't move Aurilia due to Sabean's Man-love for him

> One more thing: it looks like Posada is going to only be out a month,
> but I sure hope that Sabean has been on the phone with the Yankees --
> any time a starting catcher for a contender sneezes, Sabean needs to be
> reminding them that Molina can be had for the right combination of
> prospects.
>
Molina should be move too but that would eliminate any offense the
Giants have now. Maybe later like in August to a contender. Tampa Bay
may be getting illusions that they may contend all year long and need
a hitting catcher.

On Bowker...let him have 3-4 months to hit or miss. He might be one of
those streaky players that goes 4-40 and then 15-40.