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What's 'sci.space.policy' doing out there with rec.sport.olympics,
alt.arts.poetry.comments and etc? ?? Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2008 Apr 25] "jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message news:HhfQj.50248$r76.39149@bignews8.bellsouth.net. .. > > Just April 14, Coca-Cola released this dismissive and > insulting > statement concerning the Olympic controversy. > Which reads in part.... > > > "As the Olympic Movement's longest continuous corporate partner...." > "While it would be an inappropriate role for sponsors to comment on > the > political situation of individual nations, we firmly believe that the > Olympics > are a force for good." > [url]http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/presscenter/viewpoints_olympic_movement.html[/url] > > > > Only four days later the CEO of Coca-Cola releases the following > statement. > Perhaps the most interesting sentence is this..... > > > "We would ask those groups and individuals to find a way to use the > openness > of the Olympics in a positive way, rather than to attack and undermine > one > of the world's last remaining unifying events." > > > Seems to me the world is quite unified concerning these > Olympics. > Helping legitimize the largest Communist Dictatorship in history > is > ....immoral, and flows only from their corporate greed. > > > Full Statement > > > Attacking the Olympics Won't Help Darfur > By Neville Isdell, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Coca-Cola > Company > Published in the Financial Times, April 18, 2008 > > > Over the past few weeks, there have been calls on sponsors of the > summer > Olympic Games in Beijing to step up public pressure on China to help > end > the tragic humanitarian crisis in Darfur. > > One group has issued a "report card," which claimed that Coca-Cola and > other Olympic partners had been "silent" on Darfur. Their approach is > flawed. > It judges concern by one narrow measure -- the degree to which one > pushes a > sovereign government in public -- while ignoring what we and others > are doing > every day to help ease the suffering in Darfur. > > Let me be clear. We have been actively engaged in Darfur for two > years. > We have been a proud Olympic partner for the past 80 years. We > support > the athletes and the global unity the Olympics celebrates. > > As a business, we recognize that our role is important, but it is also > inherently and appropriately limited. We are neither a government nor > the > United Nations, but we can and must be a catalyst for change through > actions > that are appropriate for a business to take. > > To help in Darfur, we are focusing our resources where we believe they > can > make the greatest difference in saving lives and reducing suffering. > > Rather than make public statements, we have chosen a more direct and, > in > our view, more effective route to help address the staggering human > suffering > in Darfur. > > Our approach encompasses: immediate relief to those on the ground; > investments > to address water, one of the conflict's underlying causes; and efforts > to bring > local and international stakeholders together to develop long-term > solutions. > > More than a year before a group first criticized the sponsors in > public, > Coca-Cola was working with non-profit partners, including the > International > Committee of the Red Cross, to support work in Darfur that has saved > lives. > > Our support helps deliver relief supplies and provides healthcare > services in > field hospitals and mobile clinics. While these important steps > address the > consequences of the conflict, we have also been working on one of its > root > causes. Having lived in Africa for 26 years, I have seen the crises > and > conflicts caused by water scarcity. > > While the lack of clean water in Sudan and its role in starting this > conflict > has been often overlooked by the international community, it has been > the > focus of much of our funding. > > The Coca-Cola Company has committed at least $5 million to programs > that > address water needs in Darfur and elsewhere in Sudan. This is targeted > at > providing new sources of clean water to those displaced by the > fighting and on > building water and sanitation projects that allow people to return to > their > homes. > > We believe these actions are more effective than public statements > because they > improve lives on the ground and address one of the underlying causes > of the > conflict. > > In addition, we are working with others in the search for longer-term, > socio-political solutions. Through the UN Global Compact, the UN > Development > Programme and the International Business Leaders Forum in London, we > are > working to bring stakeholders together to focus on business's role in > building > sustainable communities in Sudan. > > We hope that by convening forums with Sudanese businesses and > government > entities, international and Sudanese non-governmental organizations, > academics > and UN agencies we can help advance peace and development efforts. > > As the longest continuous Olympic partner, we believe in the purposes > and > objectives of the games: a venue intended to be free of conflict, a > forum for > non-political engagement, fair play and celebrating the greatest in > individual > sporting achievement. > > We understand the power of the games. We understand the concept of the > "Olympic truce," which allows nations with disparate points of view to > come > together in free and open sporting competition. We also understand > that the > games offer a global stage that is attractive to those who want to > use it for > their own issues. > > We would ask those groups and individuals to find a way to use the > openness > of the Olympics in a positive way, rather than to attack and undermine > one > of the world's last remaining unifying events. > > For the complicated situation in Sudan to be resolved, every element > of society > must play its part. Criticism of Olympic sponsors from > well-intentioned people > will not stop the violence in Darfur. > > We encourage concerned people to join us in supporting the NGOs that > are > providing critical assistance to those in need and working with others > to build > more sustainable communities in Sudan. > [url]http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/presscenter/viewpoints_isdell_darfur.html[/url] > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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"jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message
news:dWuQj.39807$%15.6903@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. . > > I've been crossposting most of my rants to the thirty busiest ng's in usenet > for about a month now. > > As to the relevance to those two ng's, we are currently in a rather warm > race with the Chinese over missile defense systems. That has nothing to do with space flight. Your posts are completely off-topic to sci.space.policy, not to mention the poetry and singapore groups. Busiest doesn't mean appropriate. You're a troll. |
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Just April 14, Coca-Cola released this dismissive and insulting statement concerning the Olympic controversy. Which reads in part.... "As the Olympic Movement's longest continuous corporate partner...." "While it would be an inappropriate role for sponsors to comment on the political situation of individual nations, we firmly believe that the Olympics are a force for good." [url]http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/presscenter/viewpoints_olympic_movement.html[/url] Only four days later the CEO of Coca-Cola releases the following statement. Perhaps the most interesting sentence is this..... "We would ask those groups and individuals to find a way to use the openness of the Olympics in a positive way, rather than to attack and undermine one of the world's last remaining unifying events." Seems to me the world is quite unified concerning these Olympics. Helping legitimize the largest Communist Dictatorship in history is ....immoral, and flows only from their corporate greed. Full Statement Attacking the Olympics Won't Help Darfur By Neville Isdell, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Coca-Cola Company Published in the Financial Times, April 18, 2008 Over the past few weeks, there have been calls on sponsors of the summer Olympic Games in Beijing to step up public pressure on China to help end the tragic humanitarian crisis in Darfur. One group has issued a "report card," which claimed that Coca-Cola and other Olympic partners had been "silent" on Darfur. Their approach is flawed. It judges concern by one narrow measure -- the degree to which one pushes a sovereign government in public -- while ignoring what we and others are doing every day to help ease the suffering in Darfur. Let me be clear. We have been actively engaged in Darfur for two years. We have been a proud Olympic partner for the past 80 years. We support the athletes and the global unity the Olympics celebrates. As a business, we recognize that our role is important, but it is also inherently and appropriately limited. We are neither a government nor the United Nations, but we can and must be a catalyst for change through actions that are appropriate for a business to take. To help in Darfur, we are focusing our resources where we believe they can make the greatest difference in saving lives and reducing suffering. Rather than make public statements, we have chosen a more direct and, in our view, more effective route to help address the staggering human suffering in Darfur. Our approach encompasses: immediate relief to those on the ground; investments to address water, one of the conflict's underlying causes; and efforts to bring local and international stakeholders together to develop long-term solutions. More than a year before a group first criticized the sponsors in public, Coca-Cola was working with non-profit partners, including the International Committee of the Red Cross, to support work in Darfur that has saved lives. Our support helps deliver relief supplies and provides healthcare services in field hospitals and mobile clinics. While these important steps address the consequences of the conflict, we have also been working on one of its root causes. Having lived in Africa for 26 years, I have seen the crises and conflicts caused by water scarcity. While the lack of clean water in Sudan and its role in starting this conflict has been often overlooked by the international community, it has been the focus of much of our funding. The Coca-Cola Company has committed at least $5 million to programs that address water needs in Darfur and elsewhere in Sudan. This is targeted at providing new sources of clean water to those displaced by the fighting and on building water and sanitation projects that allow people to return to their homes. We believe these actions are more effective than public statements because they improve lives on the ground and address one of the underlying causes of the conflict. In addition, we are working with others in the search for longer-term, socio-political solutions. Through the UN Global Compact, the UN Development Programme and the International Business Leaders Forum in London, we are working to bring stakeholders together to focus on business's role in building sustainable communities in Sudan. We hope that by convening forums with Sudanese businesses and government entities, international and Sudanese non-governmental organizations, academics and UN agencies we can help advance peace and development efforts. As the longest continuous Olympic partner, we believe in the purposes and objectives of the games: a venue intended to be free of conflict, a forum for non-political engagement, fair play and celebrating the greatest in individual sporting achievement. We understand the power of the games. We understand the concept of the "Olympic truce," which allows nations with disparate points of view to come together in free and open sporting competition. We also understand that the games offer a global stage that is attractive to those who want to use it for their own issues. We would ask those groups and individuals to find a way to use the openness of the Olympics in a positive way, rather than to attack and undermine one of the world's last remaining unifying events. For the complicated situation in Sudan to be resolved, every element of society must play its part. Criticism of Olympic sponsors from well-intentioned people will not stop the violence in Darfur. We encourage concerned people to join us in supporting the NGOs that are providing critical assistance to those in need and working with others to build more sustainable communities in Sudan. [url]http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/presscenter/viewpoints_isdell_darfur.html[/url] |
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"Alan Erskine" <alan.erskine@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:LFxQj.5095$ko5.3011@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > "jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message > news:dWuQj.39807$%15.6903@bignews7.bellsDon'touth. net... >> >> I've been crossposting most of my rants to the thirty busiest ng's in >> usenet for about a month now. >> >> As to the relevance to those two ng's, we are currently in a rather warm >> race with the Chinese over missile defense systems. > > That has nothing to do with space flight. Really? Missile defense doesn't have anything to do with space flight? Or anything to do with space policy, the ng name? Missile defense was the topic of many long discussions on this ng among most, if not all, of the regulars. Don't you remember all the threads about the Chinese asat test where they shot down their own satellite? How long have you been at this ng? >Your posts are completely > off-topic to sci.space.policy, not to mention the poetry and singapore > groups. Considering your inability to comprehend the relationships between missile defense, space flight and US space policy, it would be pointless to discuss how the Beijing Olympics are on topic to a Singapore ng. And considering your response was little more than a playground taunt of ....'you stink', I'd bet poetry is a subject we'd better pass on for now too. > > Busiest doesn't mean appropriate. You're a troll. A troll implies some sort of deception or otherwise bad intent to disrupt or make fools of others. I've been consistant in my posting style and opinions for many years. And have only the best intentions. In fact I have the thickest skin around and my actions are only swayed by the more convincing argument. > > |
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"Martha Adams" <mhada@verizon.net> wrote in message news RnQj.12$Zs1.5@trndny07...> What's 'sci.space.policy' doing out there with rec.sport.olympics, > alt.arts.poetry.comments and etc? ?? > I've been crossposting most of my rants to the thirty busiest ng's in usenet for about a month now. As to the relevance to those two ng's, we are currently in a rather warm race with the Chinese over missile defense systems. And these Olympics are a turning point for China as to their international legitimacy. The mathematics are clear in this point concerning such historic turning or critical points. Self Organized Systems Faq [url]http://www.calresco.org/sos/sosfaq.htm[/url] "24. At the critical point, any size of perturbation can potentially cause any size of effect - it is impossible to predict the size of the effect from the size of the perturbation (for large, analytically intractable systems). Which means the smallest symbolic protest /during such turning points/ can cascade quickly out of control. These Olympics are just such a critical point, the realm of the self-fullfilling prophecy, martys and poets. Such dramatic critical points are highly vulnerable to certain kinds of symbolic attacks. For instance.... Tibet n Turmoil CNN "On Friday morning, however, things apparently got out of control when a massive police force showed up against a relatively small temple protest inside the city center." [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/14/tibet.unrest/index.html?iref=24hours[/url] As Emily Dickinson wrote long ago. A most fragile Symbol of Purity, in the midst of such polarized critical points as these Olympics, attract both Good and Evil to a single place. So the two can do battle. Where the least powerful of all can bring upon itself the strongest forces that exist. And force the whole to evolve. " Through the straight pass of suffering The martyrs even trod, Their feet upon temptation, Their faces upon God. A stately, shriven company; Convulsion playing round, Harmless as streaks of meteor Upon a plant's bound. Their faith the everlasting troth; Their expectation fair; The needle to the north degree Wades so, through polar air." Poets and martrys alike need to know under /what conditions/ their services are most effective. These Olympics provide the template example. s |
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"jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message
news:WvtRj.42569$%15.4803@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. . > > "Alan Erskine" <alan.erskine@bigpond.com> wrote in message > news:LFxQj.5095$ko5.3011@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Missile defense doesn't have anything to do with space flight? > Or anything to do with space policy, the ng name? What does it have to do with Singapore? Or the Olympics? You said something to the effect that you post to the "30 busiest newsgroups". I wonder how the other 29 feel about your off-topic posts. |
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"Alan Erskine" <alan.erskine@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:ylxRj.5967$ko5.3601@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > "jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message > news:WvtRj.42569$%15.4803@bignews7.bellsouth.net.. . >> >> "Alan Erskine" <alan.erskine@bigpond.com> wrote in message >> news:LFxQj.5095$ko5.3011@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > >> Missile defense doesn't have anything to do with space flight? >> Or anything to do with space policy, the ng name? > > What does it have to do with Singapore? Or the Olympics? You said > something to the effect that you post to the "30 busiest newsgroups". I > wonder how the other 29 feel about your off-topic posts. What does the post you responded to titled.....My Lust, My Love...You Whore. have to do with space history? If I put OT in the subject, would that make it OK? > > |
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"jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message
news:vaPRj.1041$28.790@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > What does the post you responded to titled.....My Lust, My Love...You Whore. > have to do with space history? If I put OT in the subject, would that make it > OK? No. |
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"Alan Erskine" <alan.erskine@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:RmRRj.6227$ko5.5893@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > "jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message > news:vaPRj.1041$28.790@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >If I put OT in the subject, would that > make it OK? > > No. So clicking the mouse is that much trouble? Or is it aesthetics? The thing is, I believe some things are worth being annoying over. And there's still three months left to the Olympics, truth is I'm just getting warmed up with the rants. So from now on whenever you see my posts, just skip past it. It's really that easy. Or better yet, you might try to comprehend that the source of all horrors and suffering ultimately flows from the artificial imposition of ...walls...of various kinds. Whether the walls are from repressive dictatorships, rigid religions, censors or economic barriers, they all do the same thing in the end. They reduce us to endless conflict and ever smaller minds. These Olympics intend to legitimize the concept of dictatorships. Instead, they may become an unprecedented world wide 'election' or referendum on what the future of this planet should become. Democracy or Dictatorship? The magnificence of this 'election' should be easy to see. If the world decides for dictatorships, Beijing this summer will show us NOW what our FUTURE will look like, and in living color. It's not often the future results of a decision can be seen ...before the decision is even made. The winner of this contest will be decided by how these Olympics are remembered. I think the Chinese Communist Party is on the brink of losing. > > |
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"jonathan" <Home@write.instead.net> wrote in message
news:258Sj.18705$DY1.16162@bignews5.bellsouth.net. .. > So clicking the mouse is that much trouble? Or is it aesthetics? > The thing is, I believe some things are worth being annoying over. > And there's still three months left to the Olympics, truth is I'm > just getting warmed up with the rants. So from now on whenever > you see my posts, just skip past it. That last sentence, more than anything, indicates that you are a troll. Your posts are not wanted on any of these forums. |
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