The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
divisions and some additional classes included.

We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
river conditions etc.

Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC website
http://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/

On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
> The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
> scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
> The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
> published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
> divisions and some additional classes included.
>
> We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
> but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
> river conditions etc.
>
>  Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/

Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
camp by other means would have been easy enough.

IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
because I've always had success there!

Kit

On Oct 8, 12:34 pm, kdav...@kidare.com wrote:
> On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
>
> > The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
> > scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
> > The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
> > published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
> > divisions and some additional classes included.
>
> > We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
> > but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
> > river conditions etc.
>
> >  Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/
>
> Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
> lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
> the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
> fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
> camp by other means would have been easy enough.
>
> IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
> on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
> because I've always had success there!
>
> Kit

The decision was principally based on the need to give certainty to
people like yourself. The problem with the lock closure is that the
scout camp has limited capacity and adding MRC crews to the rest would
make things almost impossible.

Last year the move was necessary because of the stream and ground
conditions and I can recommend the Long Distance Sculls on 25th Oct
which will be on the Bourne End Reach, stream permitting.

On 8 Oct, 12:34, kdav...@kidare.com wrote:
> On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
>
> > The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
> > scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
> > The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
> > published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
> > divisions and some additional classes included.
>
> > We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
> > but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
> > river conditions etc.
>
> >  Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/
>
> Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
> lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
> the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
> fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
> camp by other means would have been easy enough.
>
> IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
> on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
> because I've always had success there!
>
> Kit

Probably about 25% of the entries are local, but this move cannot be
to the benefit of either MRC's crews or its coffers.
Even with the lock closed, it would be a darn sight easier getting
boats to Longridge than Dorney.
And with the amount DLS charges, it's a lot more profitable running it
at Longridge, weather providing of course.
Now that it is an independant charity (see http://www.longridge-uk.org/about.php
), Longridge is a more deserving cause than DLS and needs as much
local support as possible.

JY wrote:
> On 8 Oct, 12:34, kdav...@kidare.com wrote:
>> On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>>> The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
>>> scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
>>> The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
>>> published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
>>> divisions and some additional classes included.
>>> We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
>>> but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
>>> river conditions etc.
>>> Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/
>> Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
>> lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
>> the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
>> fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
>> camp by other means would have been easy enough.
>>
>> IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
>> on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
>> because I've always had success there!
>>
>> Kit
>
> Probably about 25% of the entries are local, but this move cannot be
> to the benefit of either MRC's crews or its coffers.
> Even with the lock closed, it would be a darn sight easier getting
> boats to Longridge than Dorney.
> And with the amount DLS charges, it's a lot more profitable running it
> at Longridge, weather providing of course.
> Now that it is an independant charity (see http://www.longridge-uk.org/about.php
> ), Longridge is a more deserving cause than DLS and needs as much
> local support as possible.

Longridge?? How long is the lake? Their website does not say.
David.

"David Jillings" <david@bourbonstreetrevival.com> wrote in message
news:Yf5Hk.8611$pN6.6652@newsfe17.ams2...
> JY wrote:
>> On 8 Oct, 12:34, kdav...@kidare.com wrote:
>>> On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
>>>> scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
>>>> The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
>>>> published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
>>>> divisions and some additional classes included.
>>>> We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
>>>> but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
>>>> river conditions etc.
>>>> Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC
>>>> websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/
>>> Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
>>> lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
>>> the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
>>> fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
>>> camp by other means would have been easy enough.
>>>
>>> IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
>>> on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
>>> because I've always had success there!
>>>
>>> Kit
>>
>> Probably about 25% of the entries are local, but this move cannot be
>> to the benefit of either MRC's crews or its coffers.
>> Even with the lock closed, it would be a darn sight easier getting
>> boats to Longridge than Dorney.
>> And with the amount DLS charges, it's a lot more profitable running it
>> at Longridge, weather providing of course.
>> Now that it is an independant charity (see
>> http://www.longridge-uk.org/about.php
>> ), Longridge is a more deserving cause than DLS and needs as much
>> local support as possible.
>
> Longridge?? How long is the lake? Their website does not say.

Longridge isn't on a lake. It's on the reach of the Thames from Cookham
Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km. That's the reach where the
Marlow heads are normally held, & Longridge is the place (formerly a scout
camp) where the events are usually based.
--
David Biddulph
Rowing web pages at
http://www.biddulph.org.uk/

"David Jillings" <david@bourbonstreetrevival.com> wrote in message
news:Yf5Hk.8611$pN6.6652@newsfe17.ams2...
> JY wrote:
>> On 8 Oct, 12:34, kdav...@kidare.com wrote:
>>> On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
>>>> scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
>>>> The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
>>>> published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
>>>> divisions and some additional classes included.
>>>> We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
>>>> but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
>>>> river conditions etc.
>>>> Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC
>>>> websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/
>>> Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
>>> lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
>>> the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
>>> fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
>>> camp by other means would have been easy enough.
>>>
>>> IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
>>> on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
>>> because I've always had success there!
>>>
>>> Kit
>>
>> Probably about 25% of the entries are local, but this move cannot be
>> to the benefit of either MRC's crews or its coffers.
>> Even with the lock closed, it would be a darn sight easier getting
>> boats to Longridge than Dorney.
>> And with the amount DLS charges, it's a lot more profitable running it
>> at Longridge, weather providing of course.
>> Now that it is an independant charity (see
>> http://www.longridge-uk.org/about.php
>> ), Longridge is a more deserving cause than DLS and needs as much
>> local support as possible.
>
> Longridge?? How long is the lake? Their website does not say.

Longridge isn't on a lake. It's on the reach of the Thames from Cookham
Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km. That's the reach where the
Marlow heads are normally held, & Longridge is the place (formerly a scout
camp) where the events are usually based.
--
David Biddulph
Rowing web pages at
http://www.biddulph.org.uk/

David Biddulph wrote:
> the reach of the Thames from Cookham
> Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km. That's the reach where the
> Marlow heads are normally held

Marlow RC is situated just upstream of Marlow Lock, right? So do they
normally row between Marlow Lock and Temple Lock? That's only 2.3 km! Or
is it easy enough to go through the lock before and after every outing?

On Oct 8, 8:25 pm, Ted van de Weteringe <myfulln...@xs4all.nl.invalid>
wrote:
> David Biddulph wrote:
> > the reach of the Thames from Cookham
> > Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km.  That's the reach where the
> > Marlow heads are normally held
>
> Marlow RC is situated just upstream of Marlow Lock, right? So do they
> normally row between Marlow Lock and Temple Lock? That's only 2.3 km! Or
> is it easy enough to go through the lock before and after every outing?

The senior squad crews normally go downstream through the lock to
Cookham and use the same 'reach' that the Womens National Squad use.
The Juniors and Veterans tend to row up to Temple Lock and row up and
down (loop) 2, 3 or even 4 times. This means that both groups can get
the distances they want. In fact when all are on the Marlow Reach it
is extremely congested so the split is beneficial.

On Oct 8, 4:14 pm, JY <j...@cvd.co.uk> wrote:
> On 8 Oct, 12:34, kdav...@kidare.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Oct, 10:57, pdblas...@btinternet.com wrote:
>
> > > The Marlow RC committee has decided that, because Marlow Lock is
> > > scheduled for closure in November, the event will be held at Dorney.
> > > The timing and list of events is now being finalised, and will be
> > > published in the next fortnight, but it will be expanded to 3
> > > divisions and some additional classes included.
>
> > > We wish to emphasise our commitment to organising events on the river
> > > but prefer to offer racing opportunities rather than cancel due to
> > > river conditions etc.
>
> > >  Updated information will be published on the Marlow RC websitehttp://www.marlowrowingclub.org.uk/
>
> > Not really a criticism but I can't understand why the closure of the
> > lock should force transferring the event. How many boats come through
> > the lock for the race? Granted I don't know and if it is "alot" then
> > fair enough. But I would have thought getting the boats to the scout
> > camp by other means would have been easy enough.
>
> > IIRC it was at Dorney last year too. Shame, as I really enjoy rowing
> > on the Bourne End stretch. One of the prettiest IMO. But maybe that's
> > because I've always had success there!
>
> > Kit
>
> Probably about 25% of the entries are local,

yes and they are all too lazy to shift their boats down to longridge
the night before to boat from there and so instead they HAVE to to go
through the lock and so the whole event has to shift to sodding dorney
doesn't it?

very silly indeed

but this move cannot be
> to the benefit of either MRC's crews or its coffers.

exactly, it is not going to be beneficial because doing a 1900m time
trial on flat water without the exciting challenge of steering is just
going to put people off entering and so lose precious entry fees and
cash.
after all, they do have that time trial thing in april or whenever at
dorney already so why have a second event there when you have one of
the best stretches of river to race and train on right non your
doorstep?

> Even with the lock closed, it would be a darn sight easier getting
> boats to Longridge than Dorney.

yes

> And with the amount DLS charges, it's a lot more profitable running it
> at Longridge, weather providing of course.

yup

> Now that it is an independant charity  (seehttp://www.longridge-uk.org/about.php
> ), Longridge is a more deserving cause than DLS and needs as much
> local support as possible.

precisely

doesn't make sense to me but then very little in rowing seems to
anyway
bookie

On Oct 8, 8:25 pm, Ted van de Weteringe <myfulln...@xs4all.nl.invalid>
wrote:
> David Biddulph wrote:
> > the reach of the Thames from Cookham
> > Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km.  That's the reach where the
> > Marlow heads are normally held
>
> Marlow RC is situated just upstream of Marlow Lock, right? So do they
> normally row between Marlow Lock and Temple Lock? That's only 2.3 km! Or
> is it easy enough to go through the lock before and after every outing?

or you can carry your boat across the road next to the club hoping the
traffic will stop for you, through the compleat angler hotel car park,
tramp across their lawns until you get to the steep bank down to the
river off their back of their property, scramble down that (still with
boat blanaced on shoulder), wade in the water and boat there below the
lock and get onto the 6km stretch that way. much easier than faffing
about with the lock and all that jazz, and it is character building
too.

bookie

On 12 Oct, 23:19, bookie <emily_boo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 8, 8:25 pm, Ted van de Weteringe <myfulln...@xs4all.nl.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > David Biddulph wrote:
> > > the reach of the Thames from Cookham
> > > Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km.  That's the reach wherethe
> > > Marlow heads are normally held
>
> > Marlow RC is situated just upstream of Marlow Lock, right? So do they
> > normally row between Marlow Lock and Temple Lock? That's only 2.3 km! Or
> > is it easy enough to go through the lock before and after every outing?
>
> or you can carry your boat across the road next to the club hoping the
> traffic will stop for you, through the compleat angler hotel car park,
> tramp across their lawns until you get to the steep bank down to the
> river off their back of their property, scramble down that (still with
> boat blanaced on shoulder), wade in the water and boat there below the
> lock and get onto the 6km stretch that way. much easier than faffing
> about with the lock and all that jazz, and it is character building
> too.
>
> bookie

Possible in a single.
Difficult in a double.
Impossible in a 4. And even if it were, I think the Compleat Angler
might have something to say about 20 odd 4's tramping across their car
park & lawn,as opposed to a handful of scullers on a normal weekend,
who they probably think add 'charm' to the place for their rich
weekend guests. If only they knew!

It's the 4's & 2's not the LDS.

On Oct 13, 9:22 am, JY <j...@cvd.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12 Oct, 23:19, bookie <emily_boo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 8, 8:25 pm, Ted van de Weteringe <myfulln...@xs4all.nl.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> > > David Biddulph wrote:
> > > > the reach of the Thames from Cookham
> > > > Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km.  That's the reach where the
> > > > Marlow heads are normally held
>
> > > Marlow RC is situated just upstream of Marlow Lock, right? So do they
> > > normally row between Marlow Lock and Temple Lock? That's only 2.3 km!Or
> > > is it easy enough to go through the lock before and after every outing?
>
> > or you can carry your boat across the road next to the club hoping the
> > traffic will stop for you, through the compleat angler hotel car park,
> > tramp across their lawns until you get to the steep bank down to the
> > river off their back of their property, scramble down that (still with
> > boat blanaced on shoulder), wade in the water and boat there below the
> > lock and get onto the 6km stretch that way. much easier than faffing
> > about with the lock and all that jazz, and it is character building
> > too.
>
> > bookie
>
> Possible in a single.
> Difficult in a double.
> Impossible in a 4. And even if it were, I think the Compleat Angler
> might have something to say about 20 odd 4's tramping across their car
> park & lawn,as opposed to a handful of scullers on a normal weekend,
> who they probably think add 'charm' to the place for their rich
> weekend guests. If only they knew!
>
> It's the 4's & 2's not the LDS.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

christ, i didn't mean all the clubs various 4s and junior 4x and
suchlike boating off the compleat angler, was just explaining the
process by which a sculler on their own might go and use the bottom
stretch as opposed to dodging juniors and gormless twerps in pleasure
boats above the lock.
i still do not see why the club can't just take all their boats down
below the lock for the race, it may be a bit of an arse but is a
necessary evil in order to stop the race dying a death by moving to
dorney and thus people losing interest in it (and thus keeping alive a
money making opportunity for the club so they can keep buying lots of
nice new boats for all those annoying juniors who only pay half the
subs that everyone else does).

still their choice, if they want to put people off entering and lose
money that way it is up to them

bookie

On Oct 13, 10:37 pm, bookie <emily_boo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 9:22 am, JY <j...@cvd.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12 Oct, 23:19, bookie <emily_boo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 8, 8:25 pm, Ted van de Weteringe <myfulln...@xs4all.nl.invalid>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > David Biddulph wrote:
> > > > > the reach of the Thames from Cookham
> > > > > Lock to Marlow Lock, 4.00 miles or 6.44 km.  That's the reach where the
> > > > > Marlow heads are normally held
>
> > > > Marlow RC is situated just upstream of Marlow Lock, right? So do they
> > > > normally row between Marlow Lock and Temple Lock? That's only 2.3 km! Or
> > > > is it easy enough to go through the lock before and after every outing?
>
> > > or you can carry your boat across the road next to the club hoping the
> > > traffic will stop for you, through the compleat angler hotel car park,
> > > tramp across their lawns until you get to the steep bank down to the
> > > river off their back of their property, scramble down that (still with
> > > boat blanaced on shoulder), wade in the water and boat there below the
> > > lock and get onto the 6km stretch that way. much easier than faffing
> > > about with the lock and all that jazz, and it is character building
> > > too.
>
> > > bookie
>
> > Possible in a single.
> > Difficult in a double.
> > Impossible in a 4. And even if it were, I think the Compleat Angler
> > might have something to say about 20 odd 4's tramping across their car
> > park & lawn,as opposed to a handful of scullers on a normal weekend,
> > who they probably think add 'charm' to the place for their rich
> > weekend guests. If only they knew!
>
> > It's the 4's & 2's not the LDS.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> christ, i didn't mean all the clubs various 4s and junior 4x and
> suchlike boating off the compleat angler, was just explaining the
> process by which a sculler on their own might go and use the bottom
> stretch as opposed to dodging juniors and gormless twerps in pleasure
> boats above the lock.
> i still do not see why the club can't just take all their boats down
> below the lock for the race, it may be a bit of an arse but is a
> necessary evil in order to stop the race dying a death by moving to
> dorney and thus people losing interest in it (and thus keeping alive a
> money making opportunity for the club so they can keep buying lots of
> nice new boats for all those annoying juniors who only pay half the
> subs that everyone else does).
>
> still their choice, if they want to put people off entering and lose
> money that way it is up to them
>
> bookie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But Emily, although I sympathise with your point of view, the idea of
having ALL the boats and competitors at Longridge is just a nightmare
for the boating marshals. We would also have to move all the club
launches (used by umpires on the day) through the lock before it is
closed so that the crews which train on the Marlow Reach could not be
coached while the lock is closed.

Unfortunately, from a practical perspective, the decision to move was
a 'no-brainer'. The hope is that crews which want to race in 2 or
even 3 divisions over 1900 m will decide to come to Dorney and pay
less per division than going elsewhere and be assured of the event
going ahead and not be cancelled due to a flood stream.

Both you and JY know that I want to encourage river racing but,
sometimes, there is only the choice of Dorney or no event.