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Robin Miller
10-07-2008, 03:15 PM
Rivers' ribs are acting up after two rough weeks in the trenches

Kevin Acee

Monday, October 6, 2008

Philip Rivers didn't get hit as much Sunday in Miami as he did the previous
week in Oakland. But the back-to-back weeks of playing teams that got to him
had him receiving treatment yesterday for the second straight day on his
bruised ribs.

"Just a couple bumps and bruises," Rivers said. "Nothing big."

There are a few others - guards Kris Dielman (thigh bruise) and Mike Goff
(knee strain), strong safety Clinton Hart (strained shoulder) and fullback
Mike Tolbert (sprained ankle) - who can say the same thing. All of them will
play Sunday against New England, though they could be rested in practice
this week.

But the Chargers will be without outside linebacker Jyles Tucker again this
week and perhaps a week longer because of the strained hamstring that kept
him out at Miami. And receiver Chris Chambers appears likely to sit against
the Patriots with the ankle sprain suffered against the Dolphins.

Moreover, LaDainian Tomlinson and Antonio Gates, the cornerstones of the
offense, remain hobbled by a toe and hip, respectively.

"We have some guys who aren't 100 percent," head coach Norv Turner said. "We
have some guys that aren't able to do the things we're accustomed to seeing.
I think they're getting closer and closer to doing it."

Gates expects to be bothered by the hip stinger for another couple of weeks,
and Tomlinson said he has no choice but to play through the injury.

"If I take a week off, I have to take three weeks off," he said. "It's not a
one-week injury. You can't get better in one week. There's no such thing.
Nobody can. If you are injured, you're injured."

Tomlinson actually had two fewer yards on nine more carries last season than
his 331 yards on 89 carries through five games this year. The past two years
comprise the slowest five-game starts in his career.

"I don't think there's any question that we're banged up," Tomlinson said.
"Obviously, just look at the injury report and you can see that. But at the
same time, we played through stretches like this last year when we were
banged up and we got the job done. So I don't want to make that an excuse.

"We're out there playing, so ultimately, it's on us. It doesn't matter if
we're hurting or banged up or what. We have to play better."

Great day

The loss precluded Mike Scifres from being too pleased with himself, but the
fact is he had the best game of his career Sunday against the Dolphins.

Never before in 74 career games had he finished a game with a higher net
average in a game in which he punted more than once. (And only once when
punting one time did he have a higher net than the 50.5-yard average he had
over six punts in Miami.)

"Just doing my job," Scifres said. "That's the guys covering. That's us
doing our job as a unit, those guys tackling and not giving up returns."

Sure, but he also booted the ball - a 65-, 64- and two 59-yarders that
seemed to hang in the air like a helium balloon.

Nuts 'n' Bolts

- Field position was not the problem Sunday. For the third straight game,
the Chargers' average start was beyond the 30.

- The Chargers have not allowed an opponent to score in the third quarter
since the season opener and have outscored opponents 30-7 in that period.

Bill Center contributed to this report.

Kevin Acee: (619) 293-1857; kevin.acee@uniontrib.com



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gmoney
10-07-2008, 08:16 PM
On Oct 7, 7:15 am, "Robin Miller" <Not_My@Real_Address.com> wrote:
> Rivers' ribs are acting up after two rough weeks in the trenches

> "Just a couple bumps and bruises," Rivers said. "Nothing big."

This is the injury that the season hinges on the most of all the
Chargers' injuries. At this point, we know we're getting a Defense
that will give up about 400 yards and 23 points/game (I know Denver
was much higher, but I'm still a whiner who blames poor officiating
for the first TD and the last TD Denver scored). The Offense can score
consistently more only if Rivers is at 100%. He was in obvious pain on
the first drive of the game, and I thought it was the groin but as we
found out it his ribs. He wasn't getting any power on the skinny post
and square-in throws throughout the game, and he totally
overcompensated on the missed throw to VJ by putting all of his
strength into the throw. Rivers in Week 1-4 didn't have this problem.

ScottW
10-07-2008, 08:57 PM
On Oct 7, 12:16 pm, gmoney <gmoney5...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> On Oct 7, 7:15 am, "Robin Miller" <Not_My@Real_Address.com> wrote:
>
> > Rivers' ribs are acting up after two rough weeks in the trenches
> > "Just a couple bumps and bruises," Rivers said. "Nothing big."
>
> This is the injury that the season hinges on the most of all the
> Chargers' injuries. At this point, we know we're getting a Defense
> that will give up about 400 yards and 23 points/game (I know Denver
> was much higher, but I'm still a whiner who blames poor officiating
> for the first TD and the last TD Denver scored). The Offense can score
> consistently more only if Rivers is at 100%. He was in obvious pain on
> the first drive of the game, and I thought it was the groin but as we
> found out it his ribs. He wasn't getting any power on the skinny post
> and square-in throws throughout the game, and he totally
> overcompensated on the missed throw to VJ by putting all of his
> strength into the throw. Rivers in Week 1-4 didn't have this problem.

I actually hope you're right, that his poor play was due to injury.

So....the question now is...should Volek have been behind center?

ScottW

gmoney
10-08-2008, 05:29 AM
On Oct 7, 12:57 pm, ScottW <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 7, 12:16 pm, gmoney <gmoney5...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> So....the question now is...should Volek have been behind center?

I don't think Volek has had enough of a chance to work with the
starting offense. If the throws are weak next week vs. NE and Rivers
is obviously in pain, then I think it would have been a good idea to
leave him and other injured folks at home until Week 10 and let
backups handle the games @Buf and @London if the team was 4-2 or 5-1
instead of a best case 3-3. The coaching staff is pretty much forced
to make the starters limp through the season at this point.

myancov@gmail.com
10-08-2008, 03:29 PM
> The coaching staff is pretty much forced to make
> the starters limp through the season at this point.

how so ?

isn't A.J.'s philosophy to have fully capable back-ups ?

isn't that why Volek & Sproles & Nanee etc. etc. etc. are here ?

ScottW
10-08-2008, 06:58 PM
On Oct 7, 9:29 pm, gmoney <gmoney5...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> On Oct 7, 12:57 pm, ScottW <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 7, 12:16 pm, gmoney <gmoney5...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> > So....the question now is...should Volek have been behind center?
>
> I don't think Volek has had enough of a chance to work with the
> starting offense. If the throws are weak next week vs. NE and Rivers
> is obviously in pain, then I think it would have been a good idea to
> leave him and other injured folks at home until Week 10 and let
> backups handle the games @Buf and @London if the team was 4-2 or 5-1
> instead of a best case 3-3. The coaching staff is pretty much forced
> to make the starters limp through the season at this point.

I'm a big believer in playing whoever gives us the best chance to win.
Now if LT can't run, he doesn't help the team win.
If Rivers can't throw, he doesn't help the team win.

Coaches are responsible for preparing backups to play at a moments
notice to the best of their physical ability.
Mentally unprepared backups (not knowing the playbook, game plan etc)
is the coaches fault IMO.

AFAIAC, this team isn't as talented as many make it out to be.
However, it has also lost to teams it should beat.
Some of that comes down to playing guys who are
too injured to play effectively.

ScottW

gmoney
10-08-2008, 11:04 PM
On Oct 8, 7:29 am, myan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The coaching staff is pretty much forced to make
> > the starters limp through the season at this point.
>
> how so ?
> isn't A.J.'s philosophy to have fully capable back-ups ?
> isn't that why Volek & Sproles & Nanee etc. etc. etc. are here ?

I think that Sproles is an excellent backup to LT, but the WR backups
like Naanee and Davis as well as the D-Line backups are not as good as
the starters. So it becomes a kind of 50-50 point at those injured
positions where the coaching staff has to weigh the effectiveness of
injured starters vs. the talent of the backups.

Volek is an excellent player and should be able to keep drives alive
if Rivers' injuries get worse. He's more mobile than Rivers and has at
least the same arm strength but I don't think he'll be able to fit the
ball into as tight spots as Rivers does. That requires a lot of
practice time (i.e., entire offseason) with the starting WR's. He
would need to make some plays like he did on the drive @Ind last year-
scrambling out of the pocket and finding Chambers on a comeback, or
throwing a backside screen to Naanee. The 15-yard out-pattern and
square-in throws would become secondary throws if the coverage is
soft.