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View Full Version : Raul Ibañez - LF
Met-in-PR 10-05-2008, 02:18 PM I think he should/will be in the Mets plans for 2009 (Martinez is not
close to be ready). Although he will be 37, he has been a consistent
player and seems like has some good reports about the way he plays
everyday (a gamer). He was born in NY, so he may be willing to finish
his career playing at Citi Fields. I know about the age, but stat-wise
he has some numbers that will improve the Mets offense. He definitely
seems like a guy who prefers to get a hit with runners on than look
for the 5-run HR Mets players are looking for.
Some interesting stats that we should look at:
Clutch Hitting (08): Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
Bases Loaded .400 .438 .800 2 19 15
Scoring Position .327 .397 .480 5 82 171
Scor. Pos, 2 outs .324 .407 .479 3 30 71
Close and late .284 .381 .431 3 15 102
Man 3rd, <2 outs .444 .468 .694 1 36 36
His Home/Away record seems pretty balance in spite playing 82 games at
Safeco Field:
Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
Home .276 .353 .497 14 67 308
Away .309 .362 .462 9 43 327
Again, he has been a consistent hitter over the past few years:
Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi G
2005 .280 .355 .436 20 89 162
2006 .289 .353 .516 33 123 159
2007 .291 .351 .480 21 105 149
2008 .293 .358 .479 23 110 162
I know he will add another lefty to the lineup (Church, Delgado,
Ibañez, Murphy, Schneider), but I think this will be 1 of many moves.
The Mets need to rebuild an entire bullpen (including finding a
closer), find two starters, LF and 2B. Although they could get by with
current catchers, I think Minaya may want to find the catcher of the
future too. Don't be surprise if Church and Delgado are both gone
during the Winter. I expect Minaya to be active.
LGM 2009!
Harlan Lachman 10-05-2008, 02:51 PM In article
<4cfa018a-e91d-403e-a773-3dd5065480a5@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Met-in-PR <orb@prtc.net> wrote:
> I think he should/will be in the Mets plans for 2009 (Martinez is not
> close to be ready). Although he will be 37, he has been a consistent
> player and seems like has some good reports about the way he plays
> everyday (a gamer). He was born in NY, so he may be willing to finish
> his career playing at Citi Fields. I know about the age, but stat-wise
> he has some numbers that will improve the Mets offense. He definitely
> seems like a guy who prefers to get a hit with runners on than look
> for the 5-run HR Mets players are looking for.
>
> Some interesting stats that we should look at:
>
> Clutch Hitting (08): Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
> Bases Loaded .400 .438 .800 2 19 15
> Scoring Position .327 .397 .480 5 82 171
> Scor. Pos, 2 outs .324 .407 .479 3 30 71
> Close and late .284 .381 .431 3 15 102
> Man 3rd, <2 outs .444 .468 .694 1 36 36
>
> His Home/Away record seems pretty balance in spite playing 82 games at
> Safeco Field:
>
> Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
> Home .276 .353 .497 14 67 308
> Away .309 .362 .462 9 43 327
>
> Again, he has been a consistent hitter over the past few years:
>
> Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi G
> 2005 .280 .355 .436 20 89 162
> 2006 .289 .353 .516 33 123 159
> 2007 .291 .351 .480 21 105 149
> 2008 .293 .358 .479 23 110 162
>
> I know he will add another lefty to the lineup (Church, Delgado,
> Ibañez, Murphy, Schneider), but I think this will be 1 of many moves.
> The Mets need to rebuild an entire bullpen (including finding a
> closer), find two starters, LF and 2B. Although they could get by with
> current catchers, I think Minaya may want to find the catcher of the
> future too. Don't be surprise if Church and Delgado are both gone
> during the Winter. I expect Minaya to be active.
>
> LGM 2009!
No more older players likely to get hurt. Lets fix things for the long
haul.
harlan
"Met-in-PR" <orb@prtc.net> wrote in message
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I think he should/will be in the Mets plans for 2009 (Martinez is not
close to be ready). Although he will be 37, he has been a consistent
player and seems like has some good reports about the way he plays
everyday (a gamer). He was born in NY, so he may be willing to finish
his career playing at Citi Fields. I know about the age, but stat-wise
he has some numbers that will improve the Mets offense. He definitely
seems like a guy who prefers to get a hit with runners on than look
for the 5-run HR Mets players are looking for.
Some interesting stats that we should look at:
Clutch Hitting (08): Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
Bases Loaded .400 .438 .800 2 19 15
Scoring Position .327 .397 .480 5 82 171
Scor. Pos, 2 outs .324 .407 .479 3 30 71
Close and late .284 .381 .431 3 15 102
Man 3rd, <2 outs .444 .468 .694 1 36 36
His Home/Away record seems pretty balance in spite playing 82 games at
Safeco Field:
Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
Home .276 .353 .497 14 67 308
Away .309 .362 .462 9 43 327
Again, he has been a consistent hitter over the past few years:
Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi G
2005 .280 .355 .436 20 89 162
2006 .289 .353 .516 33 123 159
2007 .291 .351 .480 21 105 149
2008 .293 .358 .479 23 110 162
I know he will add another lefty to the lineup (Church, Delgado,
Ibañez, Murphy, Schneider), but I think this will be 1 of many moves.
The Mets need to rebuild an entire bullpen (including finding a
closer), find two starters, LF and 2B. Although they could get by with
current catchers, I think Minaya may want to find the catcher of the
future too. Don't be surprise if Church and Delgado are both gone
during the Winter. I expect Minaya to be active.
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He also fills the Wilpon need to have "clean-cut" players, so as not to
upset their corporate clients, that have to watch them. Give me some players
that get dirty, have beards and spit in the eye of the competition, and know
how to play baseball.
Ruben 10-05-2008, 04:21 PM On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:51:15 -0400, Harlan Lachman wrote:
> I know about the age, but stat-wise
>> he has some numbers that will improve the Mets offense.
evidently he doesn't know about the age.
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Met-in-PR 10-06-2008, 03:35 AM On Oct 5, 9:51 am, Harlan Lachman <hlach...@verizon.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4cfa018a-e91d-403e-a773-3dd506548...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Met-in-PR <o...@prtc.net> wrote:
> > I think he should/will be in the Mets plans for 2009 (Martinez is not
> > close to be ready). Although he will be 37, he has been a consistent
> > player and seems like has some good reports about the way he plays
> > everyday (a gamer). He was born in NY, so he may be willing to finish
> > his career playing at Citi Fields. I know about the age, but stat-wise
> > he has some numbers that will improve the Mets offense. He definitely
> > seems like a guy who prefers to get a hit with runners on than look
> > for the 5-run HR Mets players are looking for.
>
> > Some interesting stats that we should look at:
>
> > Clutch Hitting (08): Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
> > Bases Loaded .400 .438 .800 2 19 15
> > Scoring Position .327 .397 .480 5 82 171
> > Scor. Pos, 2 outs .324 .407 .479 3 30 71
> > Close and late .284 .381 .431 3 15 102
> > Man 3rd, <2 outs .444 .468 .694 1 36 36
>
> > His Home/Away record seems pretty balance in spite playing 82 games at
> > Safeco Field:
>
> > Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
> > Home .276 .353 .497 14 67 308
> > Away .309 .362 .462 9 43 327
>
> > Again, he has been a consistent hitter over the past few years:
>
> > Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi G
> > 2005 .280 .355 .436 20 89 162
> > 2006 .289 .353 .516 33 123 159
> > 2007 .291 .351 .480 21 105 149
> > 2008 .293 .358 .479 23 110 162
>
> > I know he will add another lefty to the lineup (Church, Delgado,
> > Ibañez, Murphy, Schneider), but I think this will be 1 of many moves.
> > The Mets need to rebuild an entire bullpen (including finding a
> > closer), find two starters, LF and 2B. Although they could get by with
> > current catchers, I think Minaya may want to find the catcher of the
> > future too. Don't be surprise if Church and Delgado are both gone
> > during the Winter. I expect Minaya to be active.
>
> > LGM 2009!
>
> No more older players likely to get hurt. Lets fix things for the long
> haul.
>
> harlan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Alou, El Duque were both players old players and injure prone. Ibañez
hasn't been that type of player. Not saying he won't, but could still
be durable. He will also be a stop gap until F Martinez is ready.
Harlan Lachman 10-06-2008, 02:03 PM In article
<5d5d7225-b8b6-44cf-b371-c313631ae6b3@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Met-in-PR <orb@prtc.net> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 9:51 am, Harlan Lachman <hlach...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <4cfa018a-e91d-403e-a773-3dd506548...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Met-in-PR <o...@prtc.net> wrote:
> > > I think he should/will be in the Mets plans for 2009 (Martinez is not
> > > close to be ready). Although he will be 37, he has been a consistent
> > > player and seems like has some good reports about the way he plays
> > > everyday (a gamer). He was born in NY, so he may be willing to finish
> > > his career playing at Citi Fields. I know about the age, but stat-wise
> > > he has some numbers that will improve the Mets offense. He definitely
> > > seems like a guy who prefers to get a hit with runners on than look
> > > for the 5-run HR Mets players are looking for.
> >
> > > Some interesting stats that we should look at:
> >
> > > Clutch Hitting (08): Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
> > > Bases Loaded .400 .438 .800 2 19 15
> > > Scoring Position .327 .397 .480 5 82 171
> > > Scor. Pos, 2 outs .324 .407 .479 3 30 71
> > > Close and late .284 .381 .431 3 15 102
> > > Man 3rd, <2 outs .444 .468 .694 1 36 36
> >
> > > His Home/Away record seems pretty balance in spite playing 82 games at
> > > Safeco Field:
> >
> > > Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi Ab
> > > Home .276 .353 .497 14 67 308
> > > Away .309 .362 .462 9 43 327
> >
> > > Again, he has been a consistent hitter over the past few years:
> >
> > > Avg Obp Slg Hr Rbi G
> > > 2005 .280 .355 .436 20 89 162
> > > 2006 .289 .353 .516 33 123 159
> > > 2007 .291 .351 .480 21 105 149
> > > 2008 .293 .358 .479 23 110 162
> >
> > > I know he will add another lefty to the lineup (Church, Delgado,
> > > Ibañez, Murphy, Schneider), but I think this will be 1 of many moves.
> > > The Mets need to rebuild an entire bullpen (including finding a
> > > closer), find two starters, LF and 2B. Although they could get by with
> > > current catchers, I think Minaya may want to find the catcher of the
> > > future too. Don't be surprise if Church and Delgado are both gone
> > > during the Winter. I expect Minaya to be active.
> >
> > > LGM 2009!
> >
> > No more older players likely to get hurt. Lets fix things for the long
> > haul.
> >
> > harlan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Alou, El Duque were both players old players and injure prone. Ibañez
> hasn't been that type of player. Not saying he won't, but could still
> be durable. He will also be a stop gap until F Martinez is ready.
I just don't think the solution lies in this direction, solely due to
the age and risk reward.
Hard to believe at my age that I am claiming someone in their late 30s
is too old but....
harlan
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