http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770

The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
everyone else.

Cheers
Stephen

Stephen Doyle wrote:
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>
> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
> everyone else.

One plays to one's strengths if one is sensible. And if one is
Australian, taking that which is not yours is most assuredly a strong
suit...


CP

"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
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> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>
> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
> everyone else.

Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who haven't
yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.

Incidentally, if I hear the phrase "marquee player" ever again it will be
too soon - rugby is not played in a tent! It ranks alongside "short-arm
penalty" (which sadly most NZ commentators are now using when they mean
"free kick") as Australian 'contributions' to the language. Yuck.

Andrew

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:20:08 +1300, Andrew Dunford wrote:

> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>
>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>> everyone else.
>
> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who haven't
> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.

He also failed to name a single Australian province.



alvey

"alvey" <alvey@play.com> wrote in message
news:hixcsyluq2s0$.1jf5szrucg89o.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:20:08 +1300, Andrew Dunford wrote:
>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>
>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>> everyone else.
>>
>> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who
>> haven't
>> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.
>
> He also failed to name a single Australian province.
>
>
>
> alvey

Its been confirmed that Daniel Braid is going to Queensland.

Cheers
Stephen

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:21:31 +1300, Stephen Doyle wrote:


>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>
>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who
>>> haven't
>>> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.
>>
>> He also failed to name a single Australian province.
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>
> Its been confirmed that Daniel Braid is going to Queensland.

Sigh. If only we could implement a quota for *all* incoming Kiwis...
Admittedly the club bouncer, building and social service industries would
be hard hit, but that's a sacrifice I'd be more than willing to make.
Thought!: Alternatively.... Perhaps Oz could free up some spots for social
climbing Kiwis by deporting those long-stay Kiwis who've been ungrateful
enough not to take out Oz citizenship?



alvey

"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
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> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>
> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
> everyone else.
>
> Cheers
> Stephen
>

Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well out of
the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better life, or they
were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply economic migration.
Please don't think this is a raping the PI post - it isn't. England are
raping plenty at the moment.

"Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>
>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>> everyone else.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen
>>
>
> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well out of
> the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better life, or they
> were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply economic migration.
> Please don't think this is a raping the PI post - it isn't. England are
> raping plenty at the moment.
I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
offers.
And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another lifestyle. Stay
at home money can't buy that.

Cheers
Stephen

Stephen Doyle wrote:
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>
> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
> everyone else.
>
> Cheers
> Stephen
>
>

I thought at first this was about the aussies deporting some
undesirables back to blighty and I was about to castigate you for
posting OT without the courtesy of 'OT' in the subject line.

Mike

"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>
> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
> everyone else.
>
> Cheers
> Stephen
>

the upshot is we cant you bastards out

Now if Pauline Hanson started a new Party and called it "Anyone but Kiwis"
she would win hands down

"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> "alvey" <alvey@play.com> wrote in message
> news:hixcsyluq2s0$.1jf5szrucg89o.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:20:08 +1300, Andrew Dunford wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>
>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who
>>> haven't
>>> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single
>>> player.
>>
>> He also failed to name a single Australian province.
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>
> Its been confirmed that Daniel Braid is going to Queensland.

This makes good sense given that he appeared to be playing for Australia in
the Bledisloe Cup match at Sydney anyway.

Andrew

"will_s" <will_s@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>
>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>> everyone else.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen
>>
>
> the upshot is we cant you bastards out

Eh?
Don't they teach English in Australia?

Cheers
Stephen.

"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> "will_s" <will_s@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:6kst1aF9ibinU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>
>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>
>> the upshot is we cant you bastards out
>
> Eh?
> Don't they teach English in Australia?
>
> Cheers
> Stephen.


thats two english nazis today


Ayway you got the message

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:56:57 +1000, Andrew Dunford <adunford@artifax.net>
wrote:

>> Its been confirmed that Daniel Braid is going to Queensland.
>
> This makes good sense given that he appeared to be playing for Australia
> in the Bledisloe Cup match at Sydney anyway.

Will you *please* take Quade Cooper in return?

--

cheers,
calvin

"Andrew Dunford" <adunford@artifax.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gc9mdb$4t5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "alvey" <alvey@play.com> wrote in message
>> news:hixcsyluq2s0$.1jf5szrucg89o.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:20:08 +1300, Andrew Dunford wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>>
>>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well
>>>>> as
>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who
>>>> haven't
>>>> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single
>>>> player.
>>>
>>> He also failed to name a single Australian province.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>
>> Its been confirmed that Daniel Braid is going to Queensland.
>
> This makes good sense given that he appeared to be playing for Australia
> in the Bledisloe Cup match at Sydney anyway.
>
> Andrew

Not wanting to be unkind to Mr Braid, but he never really cut it as an AB.
Soooo if that's the best Queensland can do, no worries in the S14 there
then.

Cheers
Stephen

"will_s" <will_s@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gcbi09$fd1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "will_s" <will_s@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:6kst1aF9ibinU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>
>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>>> everyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>
>>> the upshot is we cant you bastards out
>>
>> Eh?
>> Don't they teach English in Australia?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen.
>
>
> thats two english nazis today
>
>
> Ayway you got the message

Yea!! but when are you going to get the message ??
Get off the piss you grizzling little fag!!

"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> "Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>
>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>
>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well out
>> of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better life, or
>> they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply economic
>> migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post - it isn't.
>> England are raping plenty at the moment.
> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
> offers.
> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another lifestyle.
> Stay at home money can't buy that.
>
> Cheers
> Stephen
>

I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of them that
follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like NZ is mine and
Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have very little time for
football down there compared to the rest of the country. If we were to do an
analysis of population centres - Bath, Bristol and Gloucester have a
combined total population of about 660k (roughly half of Auckland, or
slightly more than Cantebury). From this, we field 3 GP teams who (with the
exception of Bristol who play in a football stadium) sell out for every
game.

In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just as
likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match than I am a
GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short end of the TV deal,
it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we never get (S14 aside). The
fact that you lads 'cannot' match the overseas offers basically says one
thing to me - someone somewhere isn't sharing the wealth. Sort that out and
your exodus will end.

As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat. If the
money allowed, I'd leave tomorrow, and I'm sure a fair few players would as
well.

Simon S-B wrote:
>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gcb3gp$b3j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well
>>>> as everyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well
>>> out of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better
>>> life, or they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply
>>> economic migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post -
>>> it isn't. England are raping plenty at the moment.
>> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
>> offers.
>> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another
>> lifestyle. Stay at home money can't buy that.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen
>>
>
> I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of them
> that follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like NZ is
> mine and Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have very
> little time for football down there compared to the rest of the country.
> If we were to do an analysis of population centres - Bath, Bristol and
> Gloucester have a combined total population of about 660k (roughly half
> of Auckland, or slightly more than Cantebury). From this, we field 3 GP
> teams who (with the exception of Bristol who play in a football stadium)
> sell out for every game.
>
> In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just as
> likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match than I am
> a GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short end of the TV
> deal, it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we never get (S14
> aside). The fact that you lads 'cannot' match the overseas offers
> basically says one thing to me - someone somewhere isn't sharing the
> wealth. Sort that out and your exodus will end.
>
> As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat.

Really? What about the sand flies? I hate those little bastards.....

If
> the money allowed, I'd leave tomorrow, and I'm sure a fair few players
> would as well.

Stephen Doyle wrote:
> "will_s" <will_s@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:6kst1aF9ibinU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>
>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>> the upshot is we cant you bastards out
>
> Eh?
> Don't they teach English in Australia?

They cant them out, and they cant them back in again, innit.....

>
> Cheers
> Stephen.
>
>

"Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gcb3gp$b3j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>
>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>>> everyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well out
>>> of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better life, or
>>> they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply economic
>>> migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post - it isn't.
>>> England are raping plenty at the moment.
>> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
>> offers.
>> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another lifestyle.
>> Stay at home money can't buy that.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen
>>
>
> I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of them
> that follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like NZ is
> mine and Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have very little
> time for football down there compared to the rest of the country. If we
> were to do an analysis of population centres - Bath, Bristol and
> Gloucester have a combined total population of about 660k (roughly half of
> Auckland, or slightly more than Cantebury). From this, we field 3 GP teams
> who (with the exception of Bristol who play in a football stadium) sell
> out for every game.
>
> In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just as
> likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match than I am a
> GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short end of the TV deal,
> it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we never get (S14 aside). The
> fact that you lads 'cannot' match the overseas offers basically says one
> thing to me - someone somewhere isn't sharing the wealth. Sort that out
> and your exodus will end.
>
> As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat. If
> the money allowed, I'd leave tomorrow, and I'm sure a fair few players
> would as well.

I take your point about relative playing numbers Simon. But it's the size of
the TV market that generates the revenue. In the UK and Europe you have
access to how many viewers?

Cheers
Stephen

On Oct 6, 10:16 pm, "Stephen Doyle" <st...@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote:
> "Simon S-B" <baitt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:gccq7n$qhc$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Stephen Doyle" <st...@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> >news:gcb3gp$b3j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> >> "Simon S-B" <baitt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> >>> "Stephen Doyle" <st...@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> >>>news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=1053...
>
> >>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as wellas
> >>>> everyone else.
>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Stephen
>
> >>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well out
> >>> of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better life, or
> >>> they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply economic
> >>> migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post - it isn't..
> >>> England are raping plenty at the moment.
> >> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
> >> offers.
> >> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another lifestyle..
> >> Stay at home money can't buy that.
>
> >> Cheers
> >> Stephen
>
> > I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of them
> > that follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like NZ is
> > mine and Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have very little
> > time for football down there compared to the rest of the country. If we
> > were to do an analysis of population centres - Bath, Bristol and
> > Gloucester have a combined total population of about 660k (roughly halfof
> > Auckland, or slightly more than Cantebury). From this, we field 3 GP teams
> > who (with the exception of Bristol who play in a football stadium) sell
> > out for every game.
>
> > In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just as
> > likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match than I am a
> > GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short end of the TV deal,
> > it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we never get (S14 aside). The
> > fact that you lads 'cannot' match the overseas offers basically says one
> > thing to me - someone somewhere isn't sharing the wealth. Sort that out
> > and your exodus will end.
>
> > As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat. If
> > the money allowed, I'd leave tomorrow, and I'm sure a fair few players
> > would as well.
>
> I take your point about relative playing numbers Simon. But it's the sizeof
> the TV market that generates the revenue. In the UK and Europe you have
> access to how many viewers?
>
> Cheers
> Stephen- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

SH competitions are shown over here as well, so the size of your TV
market is big. I can only find viewing figures for 2 years ago, but
the morning games (SH) have about 15% less audience than the afternoon
(NH) games. As I say, I watch the Currie Cup and Air NZ because they
are on before life gets in the way, as it does in the afternoon.
Admittedly life often means going to a game, but then I'm not watching
the TV at all. Either you've got a total muppet selling your product,
or someone has their hands in the till.

alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:20:08 +1300, Andrew Dunford wrote:
>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>
>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>> everyone else.
>> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who haven't
>> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.
>
> He also failed to name a single Australian province.
>
>
>
> alvey

Braid???

alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:21:31 +1300, Stephen Doyle wrote:
>
>
>>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>>
>>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>>>> everyone else.
>>>> Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who
>>>> haven't
>>>> yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.
>>> He also failed to name a single Australian province.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>> Its been confirmed that Daniel Braid is going to Queensland.
>
> Sigh. If only we could implement a quota for *all* incoming Kiwis...
> Admittedly the club bouncer, building and social service industries would
> be hard hit,


Like Jo in Queensland, and SA's current Premier???

but that's a sacrifice I'd be more than willing to make.
> Thought!: Alternatively.... Perhaps Oz could free up some spots for social
> climbing Kiwis by deporting those long-stay Kiwis who've been ungrateful
> enough not to take out Oz citizenship?
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>

didgerman wrote:
> Simon S-B wrote:
>>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gcb3gp$b3j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as
>>>>> well as everyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well
>>>> out of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better
>>>> life, or they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply
>>>> economic migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post
>>>> - it isn't. England are raping plenty at the moment.
>>> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
>>> offers.
>>> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another
>>> lifestyle. Stay at home money can't buy that.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>
>> I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of them
>> that follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like NZ is
>> mine and Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have very
>> little time for football down there compared to the rest of the
>> country. If we were to do an analysis of population centres - Bath,
>> Bristol and Gloucester have a combined total population of about 660k
>> (roughly half of Auckland, or slightly more than Cantebury). From
>> this, we field 3 GP teams who (with the exception of Bristol who play
>> in a football stadium) sell out for every game.
>>
>> In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just as
>> likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match than I
>> am a GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short end of the
>> TV deal, it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we never get
>> (S14 aside). The fact that you lads 'cannot' match the overseas offers
>> basically says one thing to me - someone somewhere isn't sharing the
>> wealth. Sort that out and your exodus will end.
>>
>> As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat.
>
> Really? What about the sand flies? I hate those little bastards.....
>
Sand flies in Northampton?

> If
>> the money allowed, I'd leave tomorrow, and I'm sure a fair few players
>> would as well.

will_s wrote:
>
>
> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>
>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well
>> as everyone else.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen
>>
>
> the upshot is we cant you bastards out
>
> Now if Pauline Hanson started a new Party and called it "Anyone but
> Kiwis" she would win hands down

And then you wouldn't all it the Lucky Country.

The Old Fellow wrote:
> didgerman wrote:
>> Simon S-B wrote:
>>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gcb3gp$b3j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as
>>>>>> well as everyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well
>>>>> out of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better
>>>>> life, or they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply
>>>>> economic migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post
>>>>> - it isn't. England are raping plenty at the moment.
>>>> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
>>>> offers.
>>>> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another
>>>> lifestyle. Stay at home money can't buy that.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of
>>> them that follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like
>>> NZ is mine and Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have
>>> very little time for football down there compared to the rest of the
>>> country. If we were to do an analysis of population centres - Bath,
>>> Bristol and Gloucester have a combined total population of about 660k
>>> (roughly half of Auckland, or slightly more than Cantebury). From
>>> this, we field 3 GP teams who (with the exception of Bristol who play
>>> in a football stadium) sell out for every game.
>>>
>>> In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just
>>> as likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match
>>> than I am a GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short
>>> end of the TV deal, it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we
>>> never get (S14 aside). The fact that you lads 'cannot' match the
>>> overseas offers basically says one thing to me - someone somewhere
>>> isn't sharing the wealth. Sort that out and your exodus will end.
>>>
>>> As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat.
>>
>> Really? What about the sand flies? I hate those little bastards.....
>>
> Sand flies in Northampton?

Only on thursdays.....

>
>> If
>>> the money allowed, I'd leave tomorrow, and I'm sure a fair few
>>> players would as well.

"The Old Fellow" <Theoldfellow@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:48eaddb2@clear.net.nz...
> didgerman wrote:
>> Simon S-B wrote:
>>>
>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:gcb3gp$b3j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Simon S-B" <baittrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gca6t3$95l$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well
>>>>>> as everyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I suggest you pay people more. For years you've done very well
>>>>> out of the poly playing pool when their parents came for a better
>>>>> life, or they were offered scholarships. It's no different, simply
>>>>> economic migration. Please don't think this is a raping the PI post -
>>>>> it isn't. England are raping plenty at the moment.
>>>> I think we would if we could Simon, we just can't match the overseas
>>>> offers.
>>>> And sometimes a lad just has to go and have alook at another lifestyle.
>>>> Stay at home money can't buy that.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate that your population is small, but the percentage of them
>>> that follow rugby is not. The area that is closest to being like NZ is
>>> mine and Didges neck of the woods - the West Country. We have very
>>> little time for football down there compared to the rest of the country.
>>> If we were to do an analysis of population centres - Bath, Bristol and
>>> Gloucester have a combined total population of about 660k (roughly half
>>> of Auckland, or slightly more than Cantebury). From this, we field 3 GP
>>> teams who (with the exception of Bristol who play in a football stadium)
>>> sell out for every game.
>>>
>>> In terms of TV money, rugby here is largely shown on Sky. I am just as
>>> likely to turn on the TV and see an Air NZ or Currie Cup match than I am
>>> a GP one. If there's one nation that's getting the short end of the TV
>>> deal, it would appear to me to be Aus, whose games we never get (S14
>>> aside). The fact that you lads 'cannot' match the overseas offers
>>> basically says one thing to me - someone somewhere isn't sharing the
>>> wealth. Sort that out and your exodus will end.
>>>
>>> As far as lifestyle goes, I'd swap Northampton for NZ in a hearbeat.
>>
>> Really? What about the sand flies? I hate those little bastards.....
>>
> Sand flies in Northampton?

They arrived on Buck Shelford.

<snip>

Andrew [and lately have exotic names such as 'Carlos Spencer']

"The Old Fellow" <Theoldfellow@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:48eade82@clear.net.nz...
> will_s wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>>
>>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>
>> the upshot is we cant you bastards out
>>
>> Now if Pauline Hanson started a new Party and called it "Anyone but
>> Kiwis" she would win hands down
>
> And then you wouldn't all it the Lucky Country.


Did you read in the thread about English ? :-)

But I am not an English Nazi and recognise that this is only a newsgroup ,
besides I understood what you meant.

BUt ( yes I love the buts especially the female ones ) we wouldnt call it
the Lucky Country , we would call it the Absolutely Greatest Country on this
Planet

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:20:08 +1300, "Andrew Dunford"
<adunford@artifax.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Stephen Doyle" <steve@dmsystems.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:gc8jab$rb$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10535770
>>
>> The upshot is our talent is now being poached by the Auusies as well as
>> everyone else.
>
>Great article: it claims "a number of promising New Zealanders who haven't
>yet made their mark have been poached" but fails to name a single player.
>
>Incidentally, if I hear the phrase "marquee player" ever again it will be
>too soon - rugby is not played in a tent! It ranks alongside "short-arm
>penalty" (which sadly most NZ commentators are now using when they mean
>"free kick") as Australian 'contributions' to the language. Yuck.

On that note, can anybody tell me who's responsible for so many
commentators referring to the first kick of a match as "the restart"?

Charlie
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