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acd
10-04-2008, 04:51 PM
With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
intimidation has reared its ugly head.
An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
arrested at the polls on Election Day.

Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
flier last week, said that the message is completely false.

“The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
individual right to vote,” Gillison said.

He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
record a public-service announcement for broadcast.

Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
district attorney.

“We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
said. “Not in this city.”

FDR
10-04-2008, 05:14 PM
acd wrote:
> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> district attorney.
>
> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> said. “Not in this city.”
>

Did you expect anything less?

Patrick Paris
10-04-2008, 05:18 PM
On 04 Oct 2008, acd <power@manlymail.net> posted some news:df36d5b4-805f-
413c-9d1a-a440ceb280a5@25g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:

> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> district attorney.
>
> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> said. “Not in this city.”

Anybody that stupid doesn't deserve to vote.

Non scrivetemi
10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
In article <df36d5b4-805f-413c-9d1a-
a440ceb280a5@25g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>
acd <power@manlymail.net> wrote:
>
> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> district attorney.
>
> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> said. “Not in this city.”

Negroes are too stupid to vote sensibly anyway. They vote by
color.

"Press the black button Tyrone!"

Fred
10-04-2008, 06:02 PM
acd wrote:
> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> district attorney.
>
> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> said. “Not in this city.”
>
moral of the story. pay your fines or live in fear. no matter what
color u r.

dave
10-04-2008, 10:30 PM
"FDR" <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote in message
news:yaOdnd72NMjqC3rVnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@giganews.com...
> acd wrote:
>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>
>> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
>> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>>
>> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
>> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
>> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>>
>> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
>> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
>> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>>
>> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
>> district attorney.
>>
>> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
>> said. “Not in this city.”
>>
>
> Did you expect anything less?

Do the Republicans expect it to have any measurable effect?
An effective tactic might be to have Latino/Latina gangs scaring Blacks away
from the polling places.

marc0ni@earthlink.net
10-05-2008, 11:22 PM
On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>


Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
the GOP?

Phil
10-05-2008, 11:53 PM
On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc0ni@earthlink.net"
<marc0ni@earthlink.net> said:

> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>
>
>
> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
> the GOP?

Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
success of such a ploy?

Tim
10-05-2008, 11:55 PM
"dave" <dave@fish.net> wrote in message
news:2gRFk.372536$yE1.216431@attbi_s21...
>
> "FDR" <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote in message
> news:yaOdnd72NMjqC3rVnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> acd wrote:
>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>>
>>> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
>>> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>>>
>>> "The only thing that police officers are going to do that we'll be
>>> encouraging that day is that they'll be exercising their own
>>> individual right to vote," Gillison said.
>>>
>>> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
>>> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
>>> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>>>
>>> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney's Office and the
>>> district attorney.
>>>
>>> "We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters," Gillison
>>> said. "Not in this city."
>>>
>>
>> Did you expect anything less?
>
> Do the Republicans expect it to have any measurable effect?
> An effective tactic might be to have Latino/Latina gangs scaring Blacks
> away from the polling places.
>

May 29, 2008 4:00 AM

Inside Obama's Acorn
By their fruits ye shall know them.

By Stanley Kurtz

What if Barack Obama's most important radical connection has been
hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term
association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
(Acorn), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close
ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you'd know what I was talking about.
Acorn is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so.
Yet because Acorn works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its
national profile is lower. Acorn likes it that way. And so, I'd wager, does
Barack Obama.



This is a story we've largely missed. While Obama's Acorn connection
has not gone entirely unreported, its depth, extent, and significance have
been poorly understood. Typically, media background pieces note that, on
behalf of Acorn, Obama and a team of Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit
forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal "motor-voter" bill.
In fact, Obama's Acorn connection is far more extensive. In the few stories
where Obama's role as an Acorn "leadership trainer" is noted, or his seats
on the boards of foundations that may have supported Acorn are discussed,
there is little follow-up. Even these more extensive reports miss many
aspects of Obama's ties to Acorn.

An Anti-Capitalism Agenda
To understand the nature and extent of Acorn's radicalism, an
excellent place to begin is Sol Stern's 2003 City Journal article, "ACORN's
Nutty Regime for Cities." (For a shorter but helpful piece, try Steven
Malanga's "Acorn Squash.")

Sol Stern explains that Acorn is the key modern successor of the
radical 1960's "New Left," with a "1960's-bred agenda of anti-capitalism" to
match. Acorn, says Stern, grew out of "one of the New Left's silliest and
most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization." In the
1960's, NWRO launched a campaign of sit-ins and disruptions at welfare
offices. The goal was to remove eligibility restrictions, and thus
effectively flood welfare rolls with so many clients that the system would
burst. The theory, explains Stern, was that an impossibly overburdened
welfare system would force "a radical reconstruction of America's unjust
capitalist economy." Instead of a socialist utopia, however, we got the
culture of dependency and family breakdown that ate away at America's inner
cities - until welfare reform began to turn the tide.

While Acorn holds to NWRO's radical economic framework and its
confrontational 1960's-style tactics, the targets and strategy have changed.
Acorn prefers to fly under the national radar, organizing locally in liberal
urban areas - where, Stern observes, local legislators and reporters are
often "slow to grasp how radical Acorn's positions really are." Acorn's new
goals are municipal "living wage" laws targeting "big-box" stores like
Wal-Mart, rolling back welfare reform, and regulating banks - efforts styled
as combating "predatory lending." Unfortunately, instead of helping workers,
Acorn's living-wage campaigns drive businesses out of the very neighborhoods
where jobs are needed most. Acorn's opposition to welfare reform only
threatens to worsen the self-reinforcing cycle of urban poverty and family
breakdown. Perhaps most mischievously, says Stern, Acorn uses banking
regulations to pressure financial institutions into massive "donations" that
it uses to finance supposedly non-partisan voter turn-out drives.

According to Stern, Acorn's radical agenda sometimes shifts toward
"undisguised authoritarian socialism." Fully aware of its living-wage
campaign's tendency to drive businesses out of cities, Acorn hopes to force
companies that want to move to obtain "exit visas." "How much longer before
Acorn calls for exit visas for wealthy or middle-class individuals before
they can leave a city?" asks Stern, adding, "This is the road to serfdom
indeed."

In Your Face
Acorn's tactics are famously "in your face." Just think of Code Pink's
well-known operations (threatening to occupy congressional offices,
interrupting the testimony of General David Petraeus) and you'll get the
idea. Acorn protesters have disrupted Federal Reserve hearings, but mostly
deploy their aggressive tactics locally. Chicago is home to one of its
strongest chapters, and Acorn has burst into a closed city council meeting
there. Acorn protestors in Baltimore disrupted a bankers' dinner and sent
four busloads of profanity-screaming protestors against the mayor's home,
terrifying his wife and kids. Even a Baltimore city council member who
generally supports Acorn said their intimidation tactics had crossed the
line.

Fred
10-05-2008, 11:58 PM
Phil wrote:
> On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc0ni@earthlink.net"
> <marc0ni@earthlink.net> said:
>
>> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
>> the GOP?
>
> Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
> success of such a ploy?
>
THE GREEN PARTY. THOSE BASTARDS.

marc0ni@earthlink.net
10-06-2008, 12:18 AM
On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, Phil <p...@nomail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc...@earthlink.net"
> <marc...@earthlink.net> said:
>
> > On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> >> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> >> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> >> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> >> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> >> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> >> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> > Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
> > the GOP?
>
> Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
> success of such a ploy?

Not much? More like "none at all." As for the rest of your statement,
idle speculation isn't evidence, either.

feloniousmouse@aol.com
10-06-2008, 12:51 AM
On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> district attorney.
>
> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> said. “Not in this city.”

You can tell how hysterical the dipshits on the left are getting.
Their racist screeds detailing how blacks are too inept to follow the
rules the rest of us do are absolutely hilarious.

Phil
10-06-2008, 01:11 AM
On 2008-10-05 18:58:31 -0400, Fred <fred@fr.ed> said:

> Phil wrote:
>> On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc0ni@earthlink.net"
>> <marc0ni@earthlink.net> said:
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
>>> the GOP?
>>
>> Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
>> success of such a ploy?
>>
> THE GREEN PARTY. THOSE BASTARDS.

It's all part of The Vast Naderite Conspiracy, I tell you...

David Johnston
10-06-2008, 01:14 AM
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:51:53 -0700 (PDT), acd <power@manlymail.net>
wrote:

>With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>arrested at the polls on Election Day.

On which TV show?

Phil
10-06-2008, 01:21 AM
On 2008-10-05 19:18:09 -0400, "marc0ni@earthlink.net"
<marc0ni@earthlink.net> said:

> On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, Phil <p...@nomail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc...@earthlink.net"
>> <marc...@earthlink.net> said:
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>
>>> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
>>> the GOP?
>>
>> Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
>> success of such a ploy?
>
> Not much? More like "none at all." As for the rest of your statement,
> idle speculation isn't evidence, either.

I'm not speculating at all. I'm asking a question that anyone seriously
investigating such an incident should be asking. If you choose not to
be interested, that's fine. It would be a pity, though, if this
incident were to be misinterpreted to someone's detriment, wouldn't it?
It's the sort of thing that happens frequently when we're discouraged
from asking rational questions. So, do you have a rational answer?

cake_and_eat_it_too@yahoo.com
10-06-2008, 01:23 AM
On Oct 4, 11:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> district attorney.
>
> “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> said. “Not in this city.”

Well, this WILL be monitored. If the Philly cops do anything other
than what da chief says they will get it back - yet tenfold.

cake_and_eat_it_too@yahoo.com
10-06-2008, 01:25 AM
On Oct 5, 6:22 pm, "marc...@earthlink.net" <marc...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>
> > With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> > intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> > An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> > North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> > outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> > arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
> the GOP?

GOP = hate mongers, racists, and bigots

Fred
10-06-2008, 01:31 AM
cake_and_eat_it_too@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Oct 5, 6:22 pm, "marc...@earthlink.net" <marc...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>>
>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
>> the GOP?
>
> GOP = hate mongers, racists, and bigots
LOOK AT YOU HATE MONGERING, RACE BAITING AND NAME CALLING. TSK TSK

marc0ni@earthlink.net
10-06-2008, 02:05 AM
On Oct 5, 5:21 pm, Phil <p...@nomail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-10-05 19:18:09 -0400, "marc...@earthlink.net"
> <marc...@earthlink.net> said:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, Phil <p...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc...@earthlink.net"
> >> <marc...@earthlink.net> said:
>
> >>> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> >>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> >>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> >>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> >>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> >>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> >>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> >>> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came from
> >>> the GOP?
>
> >> Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
> >> success of such a ploy?
>
> > Not much? More like "none at all." As for the rest of your statement,
> > idle speculation isn't evidence, either.
>
> I'm not speculating at all. I'm asking a question that anyone seriously
> investigating such an incident should be asking. If you choose not to
> be interested, that's fine. It would be a pity, though, if this
> incident were to be misinterpreted to someone's detriment, wouldn't it?
> It's the sort of thing that happens frequently when we're discouraged
> from asking rational questions. So, do you have a rational answer?  

I'd look to the party that uses divisive tactics each election cycle:
the Democrats themselves. In this scenario, the point of the ploy
would be energize the base in the waning weeks just before the
election.

Of course that assumes that there was even a flier at all.

Phil
10-06-2008, 06:34 PM
On 2008-10-05 21:05:41 -0400, "marc0ni@earthlink.net"
<marc0ni@earthlink.net> said:

> On Oct 5, 5:21 pm, Phil <p...@nomail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-10-05 19:18:09 -0400, "marc...@earthlink.net"
>> <marc...@earthlink.net> said:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, Phil <p...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2008-10-05 18:22:38 -0400, "marc...@earthlink.net"
>>>> <marc...@earthlink.net> said:
>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 8:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
>>>>>> intimidation has reared its ugly head.
>>>>>> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
>>>>>> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
>>>>>> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may b
> e
>>>>>> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>>
>>>>> Since the flier was anonymous what evidence is there that it came fro
> m
>>>>> the GOP?
>>
>>>> Not much, but which party's candidate stands to benefit most from the
>>>> success of such a ploy?
>>
>>> Not much? More like "none at all." As for the rest of your statement,
>>> idle speculation isn't evidence, either.
>>
>> I'm not speculating at all. I'm asking a question that anyone seriously
>> investigating such an incident should be asking. If you choose not to
>> be interested, that's fine. It would be a pity, though, if this
>> incident were to be misinterpreted to someone's detriment, wouldn't it?
>> It's the sort of thing that happens frequently when we're discouraged
>> from asking rational questions. So, do you have a rational answer?  
>
> I'd look to the party that uses divisive tactics each election cycle:
> the Democrats themselves.

So evidence of Democrats using uncited but divisive tactics each
election cycle is that they always use divisive tactics, and this is
one of them? So how'd that constitutional amendment banning gay
marriage work out for Mr. Bush in his two-year window of absolute
control of the federal government?

> In this scenario, the point of the ploy
> would be energize the base in the waning weeks just before the
> election.

You haven't been following the polls, have you?

> Of course that assumes that there was even a flier at all.

Yes, it does. But since it's virtually impossible to prove something
doesn't exist, and very easy for anyone wishing to establish that such
a flier exists to create one if needed, it appears the purpose of
whomever was behind it was at least partially served.

MF
10-06-2008, 07:29 PM
"Patrick Paris" <Patrick_Paris@apple.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B2D5EACF883AW8TVX@85.214.90.236...
> On 04 Oct 2008, acd <power@manlymail.net> posted some news:df36d5b4-805f-
> 413c-9d1a-a440ceb280a5@25g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
>
>> He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
>> citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
>> record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>>
>> Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney's Office and the
>> district attorney.
>>
>> "We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters," Gillison
>> said. "Not in this city."
>
> Anybody that stupid doesn't deserve to vote.

That's one way to look at it. Another is that you are advocating breaking
the law as established by the constitution and deserve to be jailed for
treason.

Franke Carlino
10-06-2008, 11:02 PM
It's bad enough that these retarded assholes insist on posting this
shit where it doesnt belong (Hence: a baseball group), the schmucks
that reply TO THEM also crosspost it back.

WAKE THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE!!!!
____________________________________________________
Peace,
Franke Carlino
LETS GO METS!!!
GEAUX SAINTS

kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu
10-07-2008, 01:45 PM
On Oct 4, 12:48 pm, "Non scrivetemi"
<nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
> In article <df36d5b4-805f-413c-9d1a-
> a440ceb28...@25g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>
> > With just weeks to go before the presidential election, voter
> > intimidation has reared its ugly head.
> > An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> > North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> > outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> > arrested at the polls on Election Day.
>
> > Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> > flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> > “The only thing that police officers are going to do that we’ll be
> > encouraging that day is that they’ll be exercising their own
> > individual right to vote,” Gillison said.
>
> > He plans to put up statements on the city and police Web sites to let
> > citizens know that the handouts are false. He said that he also will
> > record a public-service announcement for broadcast.
>
> > Gillison referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the
> > district attorney.
>
> > “We are not going to stand for any intimidation of voters,” Gillison
> > said. “Not in this city.”
>
> Negroes are too stupid to vote sensibly anyway.  They vote by
> color.
>
> "Press the black button Tyrone!"- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Right. And you believe white people aren't doing the same thing
and always have.

SFTV_troy
10-07-2008, 02:51 PM
On Oct 4, 11:51 am, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
>
> An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> arrested at the polls on Election Day.
> Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> flier last week, said that the message is completely false.


How do you know these flyers were released by the GOP, and not just
some kid with a printer & lots of paper?

I suspect it was the latter.

But heaven forbid I propose an explanation that makes sense (a college
kid with too much time on his hands), rather than go with a nutjob
conspiracy theory.

William December Starr
10-07-2008, 04:32 PM
In article <OpmdndYsfYedxHfVnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"MF" <cheatsandlies@spammersbl0w.com> said:

> "Patrick Paris" <Patrick_Paris@apple.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B2D5EACF883AW8TVX@85.214.90.236...
>
>> Anybody that stupid doesn't deserve to vote.
>
> That's one way to look at it. Another is that you are advocating
> breaking the law as established by the constitution and deserve to
> be jailed for treason.

That's a nicely ironic statement, given that treason is precisely
defined in that very document and advocating the removal of the
franchise from a category of people doesn't qualify.

-- wds

D.F. Manno
10-09-2008, 02:27 AM
In article
<77c345f6-f1cd-48ca-8d8e-8ca88683cf5d@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
SFTV_troy <SFTV_troy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> >
> > An anonymous flier circulating in African-American neighborhoods in
> > North and West Philadelphia states that voters who are facing
> > outstanding arrest warrants or who have unpaid traffic tickets may be
> > arrested at the polls on Election Day.
> > Deputy Mayor for Public Safety Everett Gillison, who learned of the
> > flier last week, said that the message is completely false.
>
> How do you know these flyers were released by the GOP, and not just
> some kid with a printer & lots of paper?
>
> I suspect it was the latter.
>
> But heaven forbid I propose an explanation that makes sense (a college
> kid with too much time on his hands), rather than go with a nutjob
> conspiracy theory.

This hypothetical college kid has nothing to gain, while the GOP has a
lot to gain by trying to suppress black turnout in a Democratic
stronghold like Philadelphia.

--
D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com

Corporation: n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit
without individual responsibility. (Ambrose Bierce)

MF
10-10-2008, 03:55 AM
Read it again, you will find the one that could be used.

"William December Starr" <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote in message
news:gcfveg$pub$1@panix2.panix.com...
> In article <OpmdndYsfYedxHfVnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "MF" <cheatsandlies@spammersbl0w.com> said:
>
>> "Patrick Paris" <Patrick_Paris@apple.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9B2D5EACF883AW8TVX@85.214.90.236...
>>
>>> Anybody that stupid doesn't deserve to vote.
>>
>> That's one way to look at it. Another is that you are advocating
>> breaking the law as established by the constitution and deserve to
>> be jailed for treason.
>
> That's a nicely ironic statement, given that treason is precisely
> defined in that very document and advocating the removal of the
> franchise from a category of people doesn't qualify.
>
> -- wds
>

William December Starr
10-11-2008, 04:55 AM
In article <ZYmdnX_WztaJWXPVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"MF" <cheatsandlies@spammersbl0w.com> said:

> "William December Starr" <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote
>> "MF" <cheatsandlies@spammersbl0w.com> said:
>>> "Patrick Paris" <Patrick_Paris@apple.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> Anybody that stupid doesn't deserve to vote.
>>>
>>> That's one way to look at it. Another is that you are advocating
>>> breaking the law as established by the constitution and deserve to
>>> be jailed for treason.
>>>
>> That's a nicely ironic statement, given that treason is precisely
>> defined in that very document and advocating the removal of the
>> franchise from a category of people doesn't qualify.
>
> Read it again, you will find the one that could be used.

"Article III, Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall
consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their
Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

I don't see how advocating disenfranchisement, even unlawful
disenfranchisement, in and of itself qualifies as treason.

-- wds