---
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=3#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
---

New York Giants (3-0): A-

Strengths:

.. First place in the NFC East. The only undefeated
team in the NFC is playing smash mouth football a
nd has not had a letdown after winning Super Bowl
XLII.

.. Great pass rushing defense with 13 sacks in just
three games and a running game that consists of
Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.

.. Head coach Tom Coughlin is at the top of his game.

Weaknesses:

.. Overall depth on defense. With the retirement of
Michael Strahan and loss of Osi Umenyiora to injury,
the Giants cannot afford to lose more players.

---
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=5#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
---

Washington Redskins (3-1): B+

Strengths:

.. After losing the season's first game against the Giants,
Washington's star players have stepped up in a big way.
Santana Moss has 421 receiving yards (105.3 ypg) and
three TDs, while reliable running back Clinton Portis is
tied for forth in the NFL with 369 yards.

.. Jason Campbell has thrown six touchdowns with no
interceptions and has a 102.2 quarterback rating. On
defense, the secondary has five interceptions through
four games.

Weaknesses:

.. Poor pass rush (six sacks in four games) and an inex-
perienced head coach in Jim Zorn.

---
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=4#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
---

Dallas Cowboys (3-1): B+

Strengths:

.. The passing attack, led by Tony Romo, is off to a good
start, as Terrell Owens has caught four touchdowns and
Jason Witten has 363 receiving yards.

.. In the rushing attack, Marion Barber and Felix Jones
are a great running back duo and should dominate oppo-
nents in the fourth quarter of crucial games.

Weaknesses:

.. Romo is turnover prone (four interceptions and a fum-
ble lost in four games).

.. The secondary is weak against the pass with no inter-
ceptions, and cornerback Terence Newman is losing
confidence by the minute.

---
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=6#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
---

Philadelphia Eagles (2-2): C+

Strengths:

.. A healthy Donovan McNabb throwing to receiver De-
Sean Jackson, who is averaging 14.9 yards per catch.

.. Run defense is giving up only 53.8 ypg on the ground
along with 17 sacks.

Weaknesses:

.. Poor rushing attack, as Brian Westbrook is not 100 per-
cent and is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.

.. Philadelphia is 2-2, and that is good enough for last place
in their division.

---

On Oct 3, 3:29 pm, "observer" <obser...@shinyfeet.com> wrote:
> ---
>  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=3#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr...
> ---
>
> New York Giants (3-0): A-
>
> Strengths:
>
> . First place in the NFC East. The only undefeated
> team in the NFC is playing smash mouth football a
> nd has not had a letdown after winning Super Bowl
> XLII.
>
> . Great pass rushing defense with 13 sacks in just
> three games and a running game that consists of
> Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.
>
> . Head coach Tom Coughlin is at the top of his game.
>
> Weaknesses:
>
> . Overall depth on defense. With the retirement of
> Michael Strahan and loss of Osi Umenyiora to injury,
> the Giants cannot afford to lose more players.
>
> ---
>  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=5#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr...
> ---
>
> Washington Redskins (3-1): B+
>
> Strengths:
>
> . After losing the season's first game against the Giants,
> Washington's star players have stepped up in a big way.
> Santana Moss has 421 receiving yards (105.3 ypg) and
> three TDs, while reliable running back Clinton Portis is
> tied for forth in the NFL with 369 yards.
>
> . Jason Campbell has thrown six touchdowns with no
> interceptions and has a 102.2 quarterback rating. On
> defense, the secondary has five interceptions through
> four games.
>
> Weaknesses:
>
> . Poor pass rush (six sacks in four games) and an inex-
> perienced head coach in Jim Zorn.
>
> ---
>  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=4#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr...
> ---
>
> Dallas Cowboys (3-1): B+
>
> Strengths:
>
> . The passing attack, led by Tony Romo, is off to a good
> start, as Terrell Owens has caught four touchdowns and
> Jason Witten has 363 receiving yards.
>
> . In the rushing attack, Marion Barber and Felix Jones
> are a great running back duo and should dominate oppo-
> nents in the fourth quarter of crucial games.
>
> Weaknesses:
>
> . Romo is turnover prone (four interceptions and a fum-
> ble lost in four games).
>
> . The secondary is weak against the pass with no inter-
> ceptions, and cornerback Terence Newman is losing
> confidence by the minute.
>
> ---
>  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=6#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr...
> ---
>
> Philadelphia Eagles (2-2): C+
>
> Strengths:
>
> . A healthy Donovan McNabb throwing to receiver De-
> Sean Jackson, who is averaging 14.9 yards per catch.
>
> . Run defense is giving up only 53.8 ypg on the ground
> along with 17 sacks.
>
> Weaknesses:
>
> . Poor rushing attack, as Brian Westbrook is not 100 per-
> cent and is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.
>
> . Philadelphia is 2-2, and that is good enough for last place
> in their division.
>
> ---

Tough to argue with any of those grades. Though it pains me to say
it, the 'Skins might deserve an A- for defying all expectations to
this point with 3 quality wins including the one in Dallas last week.
They are going to be a hell of a lot better than anyone thought after
Week 1. The Eagles might really be a B-. They were a play or two
away from being 4-0. The game between these two this weekend will be
a biggie.

Good stuff, this NFC East. Every inter-divisional matchup is going to
be like a mini-playoff game this year.

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:29:27 -0500, "observer" <observer@shinyfeet.com>
wrote:

Yeah, Zorn being an inexperienced head coach. That's been a major
weakness alright.


>
>---
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=3#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>---
>
>New York Giants (3-0): A-
>
>Strengths:
>
>. First place in the NFC East. The only undefeated
>team in the NFC is playing smash mouth football a
>nd has not had a letdown after winning Super Bowl
>XLII.
>
>. Great pass rushing defense with 13 sacks in just
>three games and a running game that consists of
>Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.
>
>. Head coach Tom Coughlin is at the top of his game.
>
>Weaknesses:
>
>. Overall depth on defense. With the retirement of
>Michael Strahan and loss of Osi Umenyiora to injury,
>the Giants cannot afford to lose more players.
>
>---
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=5#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>---
>
>Washington Redskins (3-1): B+
>
>Strengths:
>
>. After losing the season's first game against the Giants,
>Washington's star players have stepped up in a big way.
>Santana Moss has 421 receiving yards (105.3 ypg) and
>three TDs, while reliable running back Clinton Portis is
>tied for forth in the NFL with 369 yards.
>
>. Jason Campbell has thrown six touchdowns with no
>interceptions and has a 102.2 quarterback rating. On
>defense, the secondary has five interceptions through
>four games.
>
>Weaknesses:
>
>. Poor pass rush (six sacks in four games) and an inex-
>perienced head coach in Jim Zorn.
>
>---
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=4#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>---
>
>Dallas Cowboys (3-1): B+
>
>Strengths:
>
>. The passing attack, led by Tony Romo, is off to a good
>start, as Terrell Owens has caught four touchdowns and
>Jason Witten has 363 receiving yards.
>
>. In the rushing attack, Marion Barber and Felix Jones
>are a great running back duo and should dominate oppo-
>nents in the fourth quarter of crucial games.
>
>Weaknesses:
>
>. Romo is turnover prone (four interceptions and a fum-
>ble lost in four games).
>
>. The secondary is weak against the pass with no inter-
>ceptions, and cornerback Terence Newman is losing
>confidence by the minute.
>
>---
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=6#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>---
>
>Philadelphia Eagles (2-2): C+
>
>Strengths:
>
>. A healthy Donovan McNabb throwing to receiver De-
>Sean Jackson, who is averaging 14.9 yards per catch.
>
>. Run defense is giving up only 53.8 ypg on the ground
>along with 17 sacks.
>
>Weaknesses:
>
>. Poor rushing attack, as Brian Westbrook is not 100 per-
>cent and is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.
>
>. Philadelphia is 2-2, and that is good enough for last place
>in their division.
>
>---
>
>

Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season, John????
It's a little early to be so brazen...

"John Kulp" <john_kulp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48e6a545.34005567@news20.forteinc.com...
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:29:27 -0500, "observer" <observer@shinyfeet.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, Zorn being an inexperienced head coach. That's been a major
> weakness alright.
>
>
>>
>>---
>>
>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=3#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>---
>>
>>New York Giants (3-0): A-
>>
>>Strengths:
>>
>>. First place in the NFC East. The only undefeated
>>team in the NFC is playing smash mouth football a
>>nd has not had a letdown after winning Super Bowl
>>XLII.
>>
>>. Great pass rushing defense with 13 sacks in just
>>three games and a running game that consists of
>>Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.
>>
>>. Head coach Tom Coughlin is at the top of his game.
>>
>>Weaknesses:
>>
>>. Overall depth on defense. With the retirement of
>>Michael Strahan and loss of Osi Umenyiora to injury,
>>the Giants cannot afford to lose more players.
>>
>>---
>>
>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=5#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>---
>>
>>Washington Redskins (3-1): B+
>>
>>Strengths:
>>
>>. After losing the season's first game against the Giants,
>>Washington's star players have stepped up in a big way.
>>Santana Moss has 421 receiving yards (105.3 ypg) and
>>three TDs, while reliable running back Clinton Portis is
>>tied for forth in the NFL with 369 yards.
>>
>>. Jason Campbell has thrown six touchdowns with no
>>interceptions and has a 102.2 quarterback rating. On
>>defense, the secondary has five interceptions through
>>four games.
>>
>>Weaknesses:
>>
>>. Poor pass rush (six sacks in four games) and an inex-
>>perienced head coach in Jim Zorn.
>>
>>---
>>
>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=4#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>---
>>
>>Dallas Cowboys (3-1): B+
>>
>>Strengths:
>>
>>. The passing attack, led by Tony Romo, is off to a good
>>start, as Terrell Owens has caught four touchdowns and
>>Jason Witten has 363 receiving yards.
>>
>>. In the rushing attack, Marion Barber and Felix Jones
>>are a great running back duo and should dominate oppo-
>>nents in the fourth quarter of crucial games.
>>
>>Weaknesses:
>>
>>. Romo is turnover prone (four interceptions and a fum-
>>ble lost in four games).
>>
>>. The secondary is weak against the pass with no inter-
>>ceptions, and cornerback Terence Newman is losing
>>confidence by the minute.
>>
>>---
>>
>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=6#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>---
>>
>>Philadelphia Eagles (2-2): C+
>>
>>Strengths:
>>
>>. A healthy Donovan McNabb throwing to receiver De-
>>Sean Jackson, who is averaging 14.9 yards per catch.
>>
>>. Run defense is giving up only 53.8 ypg on the ground
>>along with 17 sacks.
>>
>>Weaknesses:
>>
>>. Poor rushing attack, as Brian Westbrook is not 100 per-
>>cent and is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.
>>
>>. Philadelphia is 2-2, and that is good enough for last place
>>in their division.
>>
>>---
>>
>>
>

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:44:11 -0400, "Valjean"
<jvaljean@nospambellsouth.net> wrote:

>Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season, John????
>It's a little early to be so brazen...

Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
team?

>
>"John Kulp" <john_kulp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:48e6a545.34005567@news20.forteinc.com...
>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:29:27 -0500, "observer" <observer@shinyfeet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, Zorn being an inexperienced head coach. That's been a major
>> weakness alright.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=3#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>>---
>>>
>>>New York Giants (3-0): A-
>>>
>>>Strengths:
>>>
>>>. First place in the NFC East. The only undefeated
>>>team in the NFC is playing smash mouth football a
>>>nd has not had a letdown after winning Super Bowl
>>>XLII.
>>>
>>>. Great pass rushing defense with 13 sacks in just
>>>three games and a running game that consists of
>>>Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.
>>>
>>>. Head coach Tom Coughlin is at the top of his game.
>>>
>>>Weaknesses:
>>>
>>>. Overall depth on defense. With the retirement of
>>>Michael Strahan and loss of Osi Umenyiora to injury,
>>>the Giants cannot afford to lose more players.
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=5#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>>---
>>>
>>>Washington Redskins (3-1): B+
>>>
>>>Strengths:
>>>
>>>. After losing the season's first game against the Giants,
>>>Washington's star players have stepped up in a big way.
>>>Santana Moss has 421 receiving yards (105.3 ypg) and
>>>three TDs, while reliable running back Clinton Portis is
>>>tied for forth in the NFL with 369 yards.
>>>
>>>. Jason Campbell has thrown six touchdowns with no
>>>interceptions and has a 102.2 quarterback rating. On
>>>defense, the secondary has five interceptions through
>>>four games.
>>>
>>>Weaknesses:
>>>
>>>. Poor pass rush (six sacks in four games) and an inex-
>>>perienced head coach in Jim Zorn.
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=4#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>>---
>>>
>>>Dallas Cowboys (3-1): B+
>>>
>>>Strengths:
>>>
>>>. The passing attack, led by Tony Romo, is off to a good
>>>start, as Terrell Owens has caught four touchdowns and
>>>Jason Witten has 363 receiving yards.
>>>
>>>. In the rushing attack, Marion Barber and Felix Jones
>>>are a great running back duo and should dominate oppo-
>>>nents in the fourth quarter of crucial games.
>>>
>>>Weaknesses:
>>>
>>>. Romo is turnover prone (four interceptions and a fum-
>>>ble lost in four games).
>>>
>>>. The secondary is weak against the pass with no inter-
>>>ceptions, and cornerback Terence Newman is losing
>>>confidence by the minute.
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=6#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterreportcards
>>>---
>>>
>>>Philadelphia Eagles (2-2): C+
>>>
>>>Strengths:
>>>
>>>. A healthy Donovan McNabb throwing to receiver De-
>>>Sean Jackson, who is averaging 14.9 yards per catch.
>>>
>>>. Run defense is giving up only 53.8 ypg on the ground
>>>along with 17 sacks.
>>>
>>>Weaknesses:
>>>
>>>. Poor rushing attack, as Brian Westbrook is not 100 per-
>>>cent and is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.
>>>
>>>. Philadelphia is 2-2, and that is good enough for last place
>>>in their division.
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

John Kulp wrote on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:04:20 GMT:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:44:11 -0400, "Valjean"
> <jvaljean@nospambellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season, John????
> >It's a little early to be so brazen...
>
> Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
> team?

Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.

--
"Sometimes I stand by the door and look into the darkness. Then I
am reminded how dearly I cherish my boredom, and what a precious
commodity is so much misery." -- Jack Vance

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:13:35 -0400, Rast <none@none.com> wrote:

>John Kulp wrote on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:04:20 GMT:
>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:44:11 -0400, "Valjean"
>> <jvaljean@nospambellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season, John????
>> >It's a little early to be so brazen...
>>
>> Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
>> team?
>
>Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.

True, but ancient history at this point. The last three have been
fine. Just fine.

>
>--
>"Sometimes I stand by the door and look into the darkness. Then I
>am reminded how dearly I cherish my boredom, and what a precious
>commodity is so much misery." -- Jack Vance

"John Kulp" <john_kulp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48e7e00d.26738037@news20.forteinc.com...
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:13:35 -0400, Rast <none@none.com> wrote:
>
>>John Kulp wrote on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:04:20 GMT:
>>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:44:11 -0400, "Valjean"
>>> <jvaljean@nospambellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season,
>>> >John????
>>> >It's a little early to be so brazen...
>>>
>>> Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
>>> team?
>>
>>Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.
>
> True, but ancient history at this point. The last three have been
> fine. Just fine.
>
>>
>>--
>>"Sometimes I stand by the door and look into the darkness. Then I
>>am reminded how dearly I cherish my boredom, and what a precious
>>commodity is so much misery." -- Jack Vance
>

Giants are so well balanced it is erie. Top 10 in EVERY category. If the D
picks it up a notch it will be reminiscent of '86. With Osi it might have
been there already.

NFL Rankings

Total D:

Eagles 3rd
Giants 4th
Girls 11th
Skins 14th

Rush D:

Eagles 1st
Giants 7th
Skins 11th
Girls 16th

Pass D:

Giants 5th
Eagles 11th
Girls 18th
Skins 23rd

Total O:

Girls 3rd
Giants 6th
Eagles 7th
Skins 18th

Rushing O:

Giants 4th
Skins 11th
Girls 13th
Eagles 24th

Passing O:

Girls 3rd
Eagles 5th
Giants 8th
Skins 17th

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:31:03 -0400, "IommiRULES" <spamthis@bird.net>
wrote:

>
>Giants are so well balanced it is erie. Top 10 in EVERY category. If the D
>picks it up a notch it will be reminiscent of '86. With Osi it might have
>been there already.

You are the team to beat!!

Dallas looks good on paper. Like the Skins did for many years.
Without the production. I'm curious to see how the son of bum calms
the finger pointing. After 1 loss. This is where they will miss
Parcells.

Looking forward to the rematch, and maybe redemption!! On Nov 30th.
Who knows where the East will be by then.

On Oct 4, 3:44 am, "Valjean" <jvalj...@nospambellsouth.net> wrote:
> Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season, John????
> It's a little early to be so brazen...
>
> "John Kulp" <john_k...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:48e6a545.34005567@news20.forteinc.com...
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:29:27 -0500, "observer" <obser...@shinyfeet.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > Yeah, Zorn being an inexperienced head coach.  That's been a major
> > weakness alright.
>
> >>---
>
> >>http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=3#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr....
> >>---
>
> >>New York Giants (3-0): A-
>
> >>Strengths:
>
> >>. First place in the NFC East. The only undefeated
> >>team in the NFC is playing smash mouth football a
> >>nd has not had a letdown after winning Super Bowl
> >>XLII.
>
> >>. Great pass rushing defense with 13 sacks in just
> >>three games and a running game that consists of
> >>Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw.
>
> >>. Head coach Tom Coughlin is at the top of his game.
>
> >>Weaknesses:
>
> >>. Overall depth on defense. With the retirement of
> >>Michael Strahan and loss of Osi Umenyiora to injury,
> >>the Giants cannot afford to lose more players.
>
> >>---
>
> >>http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=5#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr....
> >>---
>
> >>Washington Redskins (3-1): B+
>
> >>Strengths:
>
> >>. After losing the season's first game against the Giants,
> >>Washington's star players have stepped up in a big way.
> >>Santana Moss has 421 receiving yards (105.3 ypg) and
> >>three TDs, while reliable running back Clinton Portis is
> >>tied for forth in the NFL with 369 yards.
>
> >>. Jason Campbell has thrown six touchdowns with no
> >>interceptions and has a 102.2 quarterback rating. On
> >>defense, the secondary has five interceptions through
> >>four games.
>
> >>Weaknesses:
>
> >>. Poor pass rush (six sacks in four games) and an inex-
> >>perienced head coach in Jim Zorn.
>
> >>---
>
> >>http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=4#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr....
> >>---
>
> >>Dallas Cowboys (3-1): B+
>
> >>Strengths:
>
> >>. The passing attack, led by Tony Romo, is off to a good
> >>start, as Terrell Owens has caught four touchdowns and
> >>Jason Witten has 363 receiving yards.
>
> >>. In the rushing attack, Marion Barber and Felix Jones
> >>are a great running back duo and should dominate oppo-
> >>nents in the fourth quarter of crucial games.
>
> >>Weaknesses:
>
> >>. Romo is turnover prone (four interceptions and a fum-
> >>ble lost in four games).
>
> >>. The secondary is weak against the pass with no inter-
> >>ceptions, and cornerback Terence Newman is losing
> >>confidence by the minute.
>
> >>---
>
> >>http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26994647/?pg=6#spt_NFL_JT_firstquarterr....
> >>---
>
> >>Philadelphia Eagles (2-2): C+
>
> >>Strengths:
>
> >>. A healthy Donovan McNabb throwing to receiver De-
> >>Sean Jackson, who is averaging 14.9 yards per catch.
>
> >>. Run defense is giving up only 53.8 ypg on the ground
> >>along with 17 sacks.
>
> >>Weaknesses:
>
> >>. Poor rushing attack, as Brian Westbrook is not 100 per-
> >>cent and is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.
>
> >>. Philadelphia is 2-2, and that is good enough for last place
> >>in their division.
>
> >>---- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

he went 7-1 and the 2-6 to end up out of teh playoffs but i think this
team is better than thatteam and can easily win 10 games

On Oct 4, 12:13 pm, Rast <n...@none.com> wrote:
> John Kulp wrote on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:04:20 GMT:
>
> > On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:44:11 -0400, "Valjean"
> > <jvalj...@nospambellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > >Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same season, John????
> > >It's a little early to be so brazen...
>
> > Brazen about what?  Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
> > team?
>
> Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.
>
> --
> "Sometimes I stand by the door and look into the darkness.  Then I
> am reminded how dearly I cherish my boredom, and what a precious
> commodity is so much misery." -- Jack Vance

It was his first game chalk it up to inexperiance look at the rest of
teh games

John Kulp wrote:

>>>> Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same
>>>> season, John???? It's a little early to be so brazen...

>>> Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
>>> team?

>> Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.

> True, but ancient history at this point. The last three have been
> fine. Just fine.

Four games ago is 'ancient history?'

Sorry, no - ancient history is the last time the Redskins won a
championship.

/Or the Cowboys a playoff game.

On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:34:35 -0400, "Brian K. O'Neill"
<a2ys3s902@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>John Kulp wrote:
>
>>>>> Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same
>>>>> season, John???? It's a little early to be so brazen...
>
>>>> Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of the
>>>> team?
>
>>> Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.
>
>> True, but ancient history at this point. The last three have been
>> fine. Just fine.
>
>Four games ago is 'ancient history?'
>
>Sorry, no - ancient history is the last time the Redskins won a
>championship.

Right. Ancient history is when you've won 4 in a row and the first
game you played is completely irrelevant.

>
>/Or the Cowboys a playoff game.
>
>

John Kulp wrote:

>>>>>> Which Washington head coach went 7-1, then 1-7, in the same
>>>>>> season, John???? It's a little early to be so brazen...

>>>>> Brazen about what? Just where has Zorn been a major weakness of
>>>>> the team?

>>>> Clock/game managment at the end of the Giants game was pretty bad.

>>> True, but ancient history at this point. The last three have been
>>> fine. Just fine.

>> Four games ago is 'ancient history?'
>>
>> Sorry, no - ancient history is the last time the Redskins won a
>> championship.

> Right. Ancient history is when you've won 4 in a row and the first
> game you played is completely irrelevant.

The Standings say otherwise.

Need a link to the standings? I can provide one.