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Sydney Diego
10-03-2008, 04:46 PM
RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.

Full article here

http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710

Greg Lentz
10-03-2008, 05:55 PM
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <alland@email.com>
wrote:

>
>
>RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
>to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
>Full article here
>
>http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710

The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
--
Greg Lentz

skepticl1@aol.com
10-03-2008, 07:11 PM
On 3 Oct, 09:55, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> >Full article here
>
> >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
> --
> Greg Lentz

Sydney's Christian Fascists US Chauvinist war mongers hate women just
as bad as fundamentalist muslims do. Communists up hold women's rights.

Sydney Diego
10-03-2008, 07:37 PM
On Oct 3, 9:55 am, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> >Full article here
>
> >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
> --
> Greg Lentz

How can he be a pussy AND a dick ? Our hermaphroditic
coach...............

Seems like we have one taker for taking the link seriously, no
surprise there !

Ron
10-03-2008, 07:39 PM
In article
<de991da2-9858-4ac0-a03d-7452e6954505@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
"skepticl1@aol.com" <skepticl1@aol.com> wrote:

> Communists up hold women's rights.

This has, historically, been one of those things communists always claim
when they're trying to start a revolution.

But if you actually look at the womens-rights record of communist
governments after a revolution, you'll notice that they actually have,
to date, done a very poor job of following up on that. Considerably
worse, in fact, that the well-educated western democracies.

Facts can be inconvenient things sometimes, eh, Skep?

-Ron

skepticl1@aol.com
10-03-2008, 08:59 PM
On 3 Oct, 11:39, Ron <ronaldinh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <de991da2-9858-4ac0-a03d-7452e6954...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Communists up hold women's rights.
>
> This has, historically, been one of those things communists always claim
> when they're trying to start a revolution.
>
> But if you actually look at the womens-rights record of communist
> governments after a revolution, you'll notice that they actually have,
> to date, done a very poor job of following up on that. Considerably
> worse, in fact, that the well-educated western democracies.
>
> Facts can be inconvenient things sometimes, eh, Skep?
>
> -Ron

In place of male supremacist thinking, the proletarian state will
educate people with the understanding that “women hold up half the
sky.” It will promote standards and values that correspond and
contribute to the unleashing of women to take part fully and equally
in every sphere of society and to play a powerful role in overturning
every old and oppressive tradition and every relation of subjugation
and exploitation.

In opposition to narrow and reactionary notions of “my country first,”
the proletarian internationalist spirit of self-sacrificing support
for revolutionary struggles throughout the world and building the
socialist state as, above all, a base area for the world proletarian
revolution will be put forward as the standard to inspire and mobilize
people.

Socialist Society, Serving the People, and Advancing to Communism

In socialist society, working cooperatively for the common good and
carrying forward the struggle to overcome and uproot all the
inequality and differences left from the old society will be upheld in
place of “the individual struggle of each against all” and the “right”
of people to accumulate wealth by exploiting others. Instead of “to
get rich is glorious,” the moral standard will be “serve the people.”
Instead of “USA #1,” the principle promoted will be that of
“contributing all we can to the advance of the world revolution and
the emancipation of all humanity.”

As the transition to communism is carried forward, as part of the
world revolution, increasingly people will not be bound by the limits
of the individual struggle for existence. They will not be motivated
by the drive to acquire wealth or personal advancement at the expense
of others. When communism is reached, the basis will have been
created, materially and ideologically, for everyone to consciously and
voluntarily subordinate themselves to the higher interests of society
as a whole.

There will be freedom for individuals on a whole new level and there
will in fact be more of a basis for individuality than there has ever
been before—but there will not be individualism. In a society in which
people realize their interests in common, cooperation will seem as
natural as competition seems now. And the creativity, initiative, and
potential of all members of society will be unleashed in ways that
previously could only be imagined, or not even imagined at all.

With this vision and these principles in mind, the loftiest goal of
the proletariat is not the freedom of the individual to rise within
the prevailing system, but the masses rising up to overthrow it and to
replace it with a society in which people realize their interests in
common. The proletarian revolution will free individuals from
exploitation and oppression, but the communist view of freedom does
not envision a future where each individual pursues their own
individual interests divorced from or in antagonism to the rest of
society.

The “4 Alls”

Morality for the proletariat is an expression of its historic mission,
and the basis for communist morality is contained in what Maoists call
“the 4 Alls.” They are drawn from a summary by Marx of what the
communist revolution aims for and leads to: the abolition of all class
distinctions; the abolition of all the relations of production on
which these class distinctions rest; the abolition of all the social
relations that correspond to these relations of production; and the
revolutionizing of all the ideas that result from these social
relations.

Only by moving human society beyond the point where it is divided into
different classes, with the few monopolizing the wealth and power and
the rest slaving for them and being downpressed by them; only by
eliminating all forms of inequality and oppression, so that there is
no more a situation where men subjugate women or one nation subjugates
others; only by advancing human relations to the point where people no
longer have a need or interest in exploiting each other and treating
each other as property to be used and manipulated; only by bringing
into being a world where people relate as freely asso­ciating human
beings—only in this way can the highest interests of the proletariat
be realized.

Personal and Intimate Relationships

Under capitalism, the human capacity for romantic love and sex as an
expression of an intimate relationship between people is twisted into
a relation between commodities to be bought and sold, and into
relations of domination and exploitation. In the dog-eat-dog world of
bourgeois sexual relations, the rules of the game are “use or be
used.” And given the patriarchal relations in society, it is
overwhelmingly women who suffer the consequences.

People’s desires for intimacy and closeness are continually thwarted
because in class society marriage and family relations have
historically been a matter of property relations. While capitalist
society may modify the forms of this, it does not change the essence
of it and in fact gives rise to some new and extreme expressions of
these oppressive property relations.

People often view romantic relations as the only shelter they have
from the hard realities of life in this system. And the culture of
capitalism exploits this need by bombarding people with these notions
at every turn. From advertising and popular culture to literature and
self-help psychology, this society makes sure that people are
inordinately fixated on sex and romance, and this serves as a means of
social control.

Proletarian morality, as applied to intimate and sexual relationships,
puts fundamental emphasis on overcoming and uprooting the relations of
inequality that oppress women.

The new socialist society will foster personal, family, and sexual
relations that are based on mutual love, respect, and equality—and not
on dominating, disrespecting or taking advantage of people. Social
practices that are harmful and demoralizing to the people—for example,
sexually objectifying, exploiting, and demeaning people in popular
culture—will be abolished. Hedonistic lifestyles that put individual
self-gratification over contributing to society or that uphold “male
right” in opposition to the liberation of women, will be the subject
of criticism and transformation.

An atmosphere in society will be created where people can speak about
such things frankly without the influence of religious Puritanism that
keeps people ignorant, or fear of repression. At the same time, people
will be free to criticize and change social practices that are
oppressive, even if they take place in the “privacy” of the family.

Women, who have historically been victimized by the traditional
authority of the man in the family, will have the backing of society
to rebel against and change op­pres­sive family and personal
relationships. (For further discussion of intimate and sexual
relations and how they are linked to the pivotal question of the
emancipation of women, see the appendix “The Proletarian Revolution
and the Eman­ci­pation of Women.”)

Not only are romantic and sexual relations distorted and corrupted in
capitalist society, but so too is people’s need for friendship. The
endless promotion of competition among individuals and the notion that
each person should seek their own “self-fulfillment” above all; the
individualizing and isolating influences of the way the functioning of
this society structures people’s basic living-family units; the male
supremacist relations and conventions and the dominant notions of
“gender roles” and of what is appropriate, and inappropriate, conduct
among people of the same, or the opposite, sex; the inequalities
between nationalities and the racist notions that accompany this; and
the exploitative values of capitalist society in general—all this
combines to make it difficult for people to establish, and to
maintain, close relationships of friendship.

The proletarian revolution shatters the hold of bourgeois power over
society. As the transformation of the basic economic, social, and
political relations proceeds, and as the moral standards and ideology
of the proletariat exert increasing influence in the new society, the
basis will more and more be created for people to enter into
relationships of friendship and intimacy as fully equal individuals.

Genuine friendships between women and men will flourish. This will be
in contrast to capitalist society, where the influence of patriarchy
and “male right,” the objectification of women as sex objects, and in
general the preoccupation with sex that is promoted, all create
serious obstacles to such friendship. Relationships will not be a
place to escape the world, take out your anger, or be a petty
oppressor, but a place to find love and warmth and closeness between
people, sexual and other­wise.

In socialist society, personal relationships, while valued as such,
will also be seen in the larger social context in which they exist and
in terms of their effect on the ability of the individuals involved to
take part in and change society. Do they contribute to revolutionizing
society and serving the people, or do they tend to perpetuate the old
traditional property and social relations?

Standards Set by the Vanguard Party

Throughout the socialist transition to communism, members of the
vanguard party must act as an advanced detachment of the class,
setting the highest standards and models for society generally.

Party members must keep constantly in mind and base themselves
wholeheartedly on serving the people. They dedicate their whole lives
to the proletarian revolution and the achievement of communism
worldwide. They are not motivated by looking out for their own narrow
interests or the pursuit of individual glory, comfort, or personal
careers. They should be fearless in the face of the enemy and be
prepared for persecution, imprisonment, and even death in the service
of the revolution. Party members have profound hatred for the enemy
and great love for the people and the Party.

As Mao Tsetung wrote: communists should have largeness of mind and
should be staunch and active, looking upon the interests of the
revolution as their very life and subordinating their personal
interests to those of the revolution; always and everywhere they
should adhere to principle and wage a tireless struggle against all
incorrect ideas and actions, so as to consolidate the collective life
of the Party and strengthen the ties between the Party and the masses;
they should be more concerned about the Party and the masses than
about any individual, and more concerned about others than about
themselves.

Morph The Cat
10-04-2008, 05:56 AM
In article <ajjce4l23f5e2e48hm3cf8ot0eck2r1b8i@4ax.com>,
Greg Lentz <nodamnspam@speakeasy.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <alland@email.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
> >
> >Full article here
> >
> >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.

Now Lantz can't dance, that was funny...!!!

skepticl1@aol.com
10-05-2008, 03:54 PM
On 3 Oct, 11:37, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 9:55�am, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> > >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> > >Full article here
>
> > >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> > The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
> > --
> > Greg Lentz
>
> How can he be a pussy AND a dick ? Our hermaphroditic
> coach...............
>
> Seems like we have one taker for taking the link seriously, no
> surprise there !


Here's an article by my friend. She's been on Bill O'Reilly A Lot, you
can see the clips on YouTube. Bill O'Reilly threatened her that if it
was true what she was saying about the Bush Administration she and her
friends would be hanging from meat hooks.

April 19, 2007

From Iraq to the Supreme Court
A New Dark Ages for Women
By SUNSARA TAYLOR

"The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we
have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity."

-- George W. Bush praising the Supreme Court decision to uphold the
ban on dilation and extraction abortions, August 18, 2007

"What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity'?"

-- George W. Bush lashing out against the Geneva Conventions and
demanding that Congress remove legal obstacles to torture, September
6, 2006


In an act of perverse dishonesty, Bush claimed the war on Iraq would
liberate women. In reality, it has visited the stench of death upon
the birth wards, the bedrooms of children, and the daily routines of
women as well as men throughout Iraq. In the post-Sadam central power
vacuum, Sharia law is flourishing, forcing women under the hijab,
fostering "honor killings" and filling the morgues with growing
numbers of women's bodies bearing signs of rape, sexual mutilation and
torture. A dark curtain is being curtain being pulled over the schools
that once served girls and dreams of equality are being snuffed out.

Here at home, George Bush's claim to support the liberation of women
is more shameless hypocrisy. Speaking sanctimoniously about the
"value" of fetal tissue, Bush has overseen the most aggressive and
cruel assault on women's fundamental rights and the fostering of an
openly patriarchal culture.

Yesterday's Supreme Court decision, which Bush heralded, criminalized
the abortion procedure scientifically known as dilation and extraction
(and manipulatively labeled "partial birth abortion" by anti-choice
fanatics) and was written so vaguely that it could be used to ban the
most common abortion procedure used by women after the first
trimester. It is a law that lays the basis to begin sending the
courageous doctors who provide women abortion procedures -- often at
the risk of death -- to prison. And, in a situation where lack of
abortion access is beginning to drive women to seek illegal abortions,
this new law is a five ton weight pressed down on women's lives
already stalked by brutality, degradation, and endless insults large
and small. It is not only a new legal precedent along the way towards
outlawing abortion it is also red meat thrown to a hungry movement of
Christian fascists determined to end not only abortion, but also birth
control and any kind of independence of women.

If women are not free to decide for themselves without shame and
without apology when and whether they will become mothers, they cannot
be free. If women are not free, then no one can be free.

Although the forms of the oppression of women in this country are
today different, this Christian fascist movement in the U.S. is the
near twin of the movements imposing Sharia law in Iraq, only it is far
more powerful given that it is embedded within the ruling elites of
the world's only superpower. It is rooted in a literal interpretation
of a scripture every bit as brutal as the Q'uran -- biblical scripture
that casts child-bearing as the only way women can be redeemed for
their alleged "original sin": "For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen
into transgression: but she shall be saved through her child-
bearing." (1 Timothy 2:13-15) This movement has initiative in the
ruling class today.

On a world scale the future for women -- HALF OF HUMANITY -- is in
grave danger.

This is not the time for putting ones hopes into a political process
that has done nothing but facilitate and legitimate the invasion,
occupation, continued occupation and now possible widening of the war
on Iraq in the face of massive public opposition. Now is not the time
for resting the future of women's control of their own destiny in the
same political process that has facilitated and legitimated the
chipping away of abortion, clinic closing by clinic closing, law by
law, and judicial nominee by judicial nominee.

This is not a time for turning one's energies towards '08 and the
slate of Democratic Party hopefuls which have ceded the moral high
ground on abortion to religious fanatics and refused to demand an end
to colonial occupation of Iraq. This is not a time for remaining
polite, being patient, or seeking "common ground."

The Bush administration -- and the imperialist system it is a product
of -- have no claim to any moral high ground in regard to women's
lives or in regard to human dignity. With their wars of aggression,
their torture, and their frontal assault on the lives of women, this
is a time when the direction they are dragging the world in must be
resisted. Fiercely. And urgently.

This is a time when Bush must be impeached and his whole direction
must be reversed.

And this is a time when everyone seriously concerned about women, here
and around the world, must look deeper to see how the oppressive,
exploitative, and brutal conditions for women are deeply rooted not
only in thousands of years of tradition's chains but also in the basic
relations, structures, and institutions of "modern" capitalist
society. As Bob Avakian has written, "The oppression of women is
completely bound up with the division of society into masters and
slaves, exploiters and exploited, and the ending of all such
conditions is impossible without the complete liberation of women. All
this is why women have a tremendous role to play not only in making
revolution but in making sure there is all-the-way revolution."

For all those who thought "they would never outlaw abortion" let this
be our final, sobering wake-up call. Let it be said that this was the
Supreme Court decision was the final straw after which a powerful
resistance rose.

For all those heartsick after four years of unjust war, let us shake
off passivity and complicity and prepare for struggle.

For all those who dream of a better world, break the chains! Unleash
the fury of women as a mighty force for revolution!

Sunsara Taylor writes for Revolution Newspaper and sits on the
Advisory Board of The World Can't Wait � Drive Out the Bush Regime.

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skepticl1@aol.com
10-05-2008, 04:03 PM
On 3 Oct, 11:37, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 9:55�am, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> > >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> > >Full article here
>
> > >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> > The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
> > --
> > Greg Lentz
>
> How can he be a pussy AND a dick ? Our hermaphroditic
> coach...............
>
> Seems like we have one taker for taking the link seriously, no
> surprise there !

Here's an article by my friend. She's been on Bill O'Reilly A Lot, you
can see the clips on YouTube. (Links Provided) Bill O'Reilly
threatened her that if it was true what she was saying about the Bush
Administration she and her friends would be hanging from meat hooks.

April 19, 2007

From Iraq to the Supreme Court
A New Dark Ages for Women
By SUNSARA TAYLOR

"The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we
have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity."

-- George W. Bush praising the Supreme Court decision to uphold the
ban on dilation and extraction abortions, August 18, 2007

"What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity'?"

-- George W. Bush lashing out against the Geneva Conventions and
demanding that Congress remove legal obstacles to torture, September
6, 2006


In an act of perverse dishonesty, Bush claimed the war on Iraq would
liberate women. In reality, it has visited the stench of death upon
the birth wards, the bedrooms of children, and the daily routines of
women as well as men throughout Iraq. In the post-Sadam central power
vacuum, Sharia law is flourishing, forcing women under the hijab,
fostering "honor killings" and filling the morgues with growing
numbers of women's bodies bearing signs of rape, sexual mutilation and
torture. A dark curtain is being curtain being pulled over the schools
that once served girls and dreams of equality are being snuffed out.

Here at home, George Bush's claim to support the liberation of women
is more shameless hypocrisy. Speaking sanctimoniously about the
"value" of fetal tissue, Bush has overseen the most aggressive and
cruel assault on women's fundamental rights and the fostering of an
openly patriarchal culture.

Yesterday's Supreme Court decision, which Bush heralded, criminalized
the abortion procedure scientifically known as dilation and extraction
(and manipulatively labeled "partial birth abortion" by anti-choice
fanatics) and was written so vaguely that it could be used to ban the
most common abortion procedure used by women after the first
trimester. It is a law that lays the basis to begin sending the
courageous doctors who provide women abortion procedures -- often at
the risk of death -- to prison. And, in a situation where lack of
abortion access is beginning to drive women to seek illegal abortions,
this new law is a five ton weight pressed down on women's lives
already stalked by brutality, degradation, and endless insults large
and small. It is not only a new legal precedent along the way towards
outlawing abortion it is also red meat thrown to a hungry movement of
Christian fascists determined to end not only abortion, but also birth
control and any kind of independence of women.

If women are not free to decide for themselves without shame and
without apology when and whether they will become mothers, they cannot
be free. If women are not free, then no one can be free.

Although the forms of the oppression of women in this country are
today different, this Christian fascist movement in the U.S. is the
near twin of the movements imposing Sharia law in Iraq, only it is far
more powerful given that it is embedded within the ruling elites of
the world's only superpower. It is rooted in a literal interpretation
of a scripture every bit as brutal as the Q'uran -- biblical scripture
that casts child-bearing as the only way women can be redeemed for
their alleged "original sin": "For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen
into transgression: but she shall be saved through her child-
bearing." (1 Timothy 2:13-15) This movement has initiative in the
ruling class today.

On a world scale the future for women -- HALF OF HUMANITY -- is in
grave danger.

This is not the time for putting ones hopes into a political process
that has done nothing but facilitate and legitimate the invasion,
occupation, continued occupation and now possible widening of the war
on Iraq in the face of massive public opposition. Now is not the time
for resting the future of women's control of their own destiny in the
same political process that has facilitated and legitimated the
chipping away of abortion, clinic closing by clinic closing, law by
law, and judicial nominee by judicial nominee.

This is not a time for turning one's energies towards '08 and the
slate of Democratic Party hopefuls which have ceded the moral high
ground on abortion to religious fanatics and refused to demand an end
to colonial occupation of Iraq. This is not a time for remaining
polite, being patient, or seeking "common ground."

The Bush administration -- and the imperialist system it is a product
of -- have no claim to any moral high ground in regard to women's
lives or in regard to human dignity. With their wars of aggression,
their torture, and their frontal assault on the lives of women, this
is a time when the direction they are dragging the world in must be
resisted. Fiercely. And urgently.

This is a time when Bush must be impeached and his whole direction
must be reversed.

And this is a time when everyone seriously concerned about women, here
and around the world, must look deeper to see how the oppressive,
exploitative, and brutal conditions for women are deeply rooted not
only in thousands of years of tradition's chains but also in the basic
relations, structures, and institutions of "modern" capitalist
society. As Bob Avakian has written, "The oppression of women is
completely bound up with the division of society into masters and
slaves, exploiters and exploited, and the ending of all such
conditions is impossible without the complete liberation of women. All
this is why women have a tremendous role to play not only in making
revolution but in making sure there is all-the-way revolution."

For all those who thought "they would never outlaw abortion" let this
be our final, sobering wake-up call. Let it be said that this was the
Supreme Court decision was the final straw after which a powerful
resistance rose.

For all those heartsick after four years of unjust war, let us shake
off passivity and complicity and prepare for struggle.

For all those who dream of a better world, break the chains! Unleash
the fury of women as a mighty force for revolution!

Sunsara Taylor writes for Revolution Newspaper and sits on the
Advisory Board of The World Can't Wait � Drive Out the Bush Regime.

YouTube - Sunsara Taylor On O'Reilly
Play VideoVideos. Channels. Community. Upload. advanced. Loading...
Sunsara Taylor On O'Reilly ... now! Sign in with your Google Account!
Loading... Want to flag a video? ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ZiT1N5_lg - 111k - Cached

YouTube - Sunsara Taylor puts Bill O'Reilly in the uncomfort zone
Play Videoyes bill oreilly is an expert on the shouting-people-down
form of democracy. ... You tube WTC 7 collapse and its an obvious
controlled demolition. ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UarLnP690i8 - 120k - Cached

skepticl1@aol.com
10-05-2008, 06:13 PM
On 3 Oct, 11:37, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 9:55�am, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> > >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> > >Full article here
>
> > >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> > The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
> > --
> > Greg Lentz
>
> How can he be a pussy AND a dick ? Our hermaphroditic
> coach...............
>
> Seems like we have one taker for taking the link seriously, no
> surprise there !

Here's an article by my friend. She's been on Bill O'Reilly A Lot, you
can see the clips on YouTube. Bill O'Reilly threatened her that if it
was true what she was saying about the Bush Administration she and her
friends would be hanging from meat hooks.

April 19, 2007

From Iraq to the Supreme Court
A New Dark Ages for Women
By SUNSARA TAYLOR

"The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we
have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity."

-- George W. Bush praising the Supreme Court decision to uphold the
ban on dilation and extraction abortions, August 18, 2007

"What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity'?"

-- George W. Bush lashing out against the Geneva Conventions and
demanding that Congress remove legal obstacles to torture, September
6, 2006


In an act of perverse dishonesty, Bush claimed the war on Iraq would
liberate women. In reality, it has visited the stench of death upon
the birth wards, the bedrooms of children, and the daily routines of
women as well as men throughout Iraq. In the post-Sadam central power
vacuum, Sharia law is flourishing, forcing women under the hijab,
fostering "honor killings" and filling the morgues with growing
numbers of women's bodies bearing signs of rape, sexual mutilation and
torture. A dark curtain is being curtain being pulled over the schools
that once served girls and dreams of equality are being snuffed out.

Here at home, George Bush's claim to support the liberation of women
is more shameless hypocrisy. Speaking sanctimoniously about the
"value" of fetal tissue, Bush has overseen the most aggressive and
cruel assault on women's fundamental rights and the fostering of an
openly patriarchal culture.

Yesterday's Supreme Court decision, which Bush heralded, criminalized
the abortion procedure scientifically known as dilation and extraction
(and manipulatively labeled "partial birth abortion" by anti-choice
fanatics) and was written so vaguely that it could be used to ban the
most common abortion procedure used by women after the first
trimester. It is a law that lays the basis to begin sending the
courageous doctors who provide women abortion procedures -- often at
the risk of death -- to prison. And, in a situation where lack of
abortion access is beginning to drive women to seek illegal abortions,
this new law is a five ton weight pressed down on women's lives
already stalked by brutality, degradation, and endless insults large
and small. It is not only a new legal precedent along the way towards
outlawing abortion it is also red meat thrown to a hungry movement of
Christian fascists determined to end not only abortion, but also birth
control and any kind of independence of women.

If women are not free to decide for themselves without shame and
without apology when and whether they will become mothers, they cannot
be free. If women are not free, then no one can be free.

Although the forms of the oppression of women in this country are
today different, this Christian fascist movement in the U.S. is the
near twin of the movements imposing Sharia law in Iraq, only it is far
more powerful given that it is embedded within the ruling elites of
the world's only superpower. It is rooted in a literal interpretation
of a scripture every bit as brutal as the Q'uran -- biblical scripture
that casts child-bearing as the only way women can be redeemed for
their alleged "original sin": "For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen
into transgression: but she shall be saved through her child-
bearing." (1 Timothy 2:13-15) This movement has initiative in the
ruling class today.

On a world scale the future for women -- HALF OF HUMANITY -- is in
grave danger.

This is not the time for putting ones hopes into a political process
that has done nothing but facilitate and legitimate the invasion,
occupation, continued occupation and now possible widening of the war
on Iraq in the face of massive public opposition. Now is not the time
for resting the future of women's control of their own destiny in the
same political process that has facilitated and legitimated the
chipping away of abortion, clinic closing by clinic closing, law by
law, and judicial nominee by judicial nominee.

This is not a time for turning one's energies towards '08 and the
slate of Democratic Party hopefuls which have ceded the moral high
ground on abortion to religious fanatics and refused to demand an end
to colonial occupation of Iraq. This is not a time for remaining
polite, being patient, or seeking "common ground."

The Bush administration -- and the imperialist system it is a product
of -- have no claim to any moral high ground in regard to women's
lives or in regard to human dignity. With their wars of aggression,
their torture, and their frontal assault on the lives of women, this
is a time when the direction they are dragging the world in must be
resisted. Fiercely. And urgently.

This is a time when Bush must be impeached and his whole direction
must be reversed.

And this is a time when everyone seriously concerned about women, here
and around the world, must look deeper to see how the oppressive,
exploitative, and brutal conditions for women are deeply rooted not
only in thousands of years of tradition's chains but also in the basic
relations, structures, and institutions of "modern" capitalist
society. As Bob Avakian has written, "The oppression of women is
completely bound up with the division of society into masters and
slaves, exploiters and exploited, and the ending of all such
conditions is impossible without the complete liberation of women. All
this is why women have a tremendous role to play not only in making
revolution but in making sure there is all-the-way revolution."

For all those who thought "they would never outlaw abortion" let this
be our final, sobering wake-up call. Let it be said that this was the
Supreme Court decision was the final straw after which a powerful
resistance rose.

For all those heartsick after four years of unjust war, let us shake
off passivity and complicity and prepare for struggle.

For all those who dream of a better world, break the chains! Unleash
the fury of women as a mighty force for revolution!

Sunsara Taylor writes for Revolution Newspaper and sits on the
Advisory Board of The World Can't Wait � Drive Out the Bush Regime.

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skepticl1@aol.com
10-05-2008, 07:02 PM
On 3 Oct, 11:37, Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 9:55�am, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> > >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> > >Full article here
>
> > >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> > The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
> > --
> > Greg Lentz
>
> How can he be a pussy AND a dick ? Our hermaphroditic
> coach...............
>
> Seems like we have one taker for taking the link seriously, no
> surprise there !

Here's an article by my friend. She's been on Bill O'Reilly A Lot, you
can see the clips on YouTube. Bill O'Reilly threatened her that if it
was true what she was saying about the Bush Administration she and her
friends would be hanging from meat hooks.

April 19, 2007

From Iraq to the Supreme Court
A New Dark Ages for Women
By SUNSARA TAYLOR

"The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we
have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity."

-- George W. Bush praising the Supreme Court decision to uphold the
ban on dilation and extraction abortions, August 18, 2007

"What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity'?"

-- George W. Bush lashing out against the Geneva Conventions and
demanding that Congress remove legal obstacles to torture, September
6, 2006


In an act of perverse dishonesty, Bush claimed the war on Iraq would
liberate women. In reality, it has visited the stench of death upon
the birth wards, the bedrooms of children, and the daily routines of
women as well as men throughout Iraq. In the post-Sadam central power
vacuum, Sharia law is flourishing, forcing women under the hijab,
fostering "honor killings" and filling the morgues with growing
numbers of women's bodies bearing signs of rape, sexual mutilation and
torture. A dark curtain is being curtain being pulled over the schools
that once served girls and dreams of equality are being snuffed out.

Here at home, George Bush's claim to support the liberation of women
is more shameless hypocrisy. Speaking sanctimoniously about the
"value" of fetal tissue, Bush has overseen the most aggressive and
cruel assault on women's fundamental rights and the fostering of an
openly patriarchal culture.

Yesterday's Supreme Court decision, which Bush heralded, criminalized
the abortion procedure scientifically known as dilation and extraction
(and manipulatively labeled "partial birth abortion" by anti-choice
fanatics) and was written so vaguely that it could be used to ban the
most common abortion procedure used by women after the first
trimester. It is a law that lays the basis to begin sending the
courageous doctors who provide women abortion procedures -- often at
the risk of death -- to prison. And, in a situation where lack of
abortion access is beginning to drive women to seek illegal abortions,
this new law is a five ton weight pressed down on women's lives
already stalked by brutality, degradation, and endless insults large
and small. It is not only a new legal precedent along the way towards
outlawing abortion it is also red meat thrown to a hungry movement of
Christian fascists determined to end not only abortion, but also birth
control and any kind of independence of women.

If women are not free to decide for themselves without shame and
without apology when and whether they will become mothers, they cannot
be free. If women are not free, then no one can be free.

Although the forms of the oppression of women in this country are
today different, this Christian fascist movement in the U.S. is the
near twin of the movements imposing Sharia law in Iraq, only it is far
more powerful given that it is embedded within the ruling elites of
the world's only superpower. It is rooted in a literal interpretation
of a scripture every bit as brutal as the Q'uran -- biblical scripture
that casts child-bearing as the only way women can be redeemed for
their alleged "original sin": "For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen
into transgression: but she shall be saved through her child-
bearing." (1 Timothy 2:13-15) This movement has initiative in the
ruling class today.

On a world scale the future for women -- HALF OF HUMANITY -- is in
grave danger.

This is not the time for putting ones hopes into a political process
that has done nothing but facilitate and legitimate the invasion,
occupation, continued occupation and now possible widening of the war
on Iraq in the face of massive public opposition. Now is not the time
for resting the future of women's control of their own destiny in the
same political process that has facilitated and legitimated the
chipping away of abortion, clinic closing by clinic closing, law by
law, and judicial nominee by judicial nominee.

This is not a time for turning one's energies towards '08 and the
slate of Democratic Party hopefuls which have ceded the moral high
ground on abortion to religious fanatics and refused to demand an end
to colonial occupation of Iraq. This is not a time for remaining
polite, being patient, or seeking "common ground."

The Bush administration -- and the imperialist system it is a product
of -- have no claim to any moral high ground in regard to women's
lives or in regard to human dignity. With their wars of aggression,
their torture, and their frontal assault on the lives of women, this
is a time when the direction they are dragging the world in must be
resisted. Fiercely. And urgently.

This is a time when Bush must be impeached and his whole direction
must be reversed.

And this is a time when everyone seriously concerned about women, here
and around the world, must look deeper to see how the oppressive,
exploitative, and brutal conditions for women are deeply rooted not
only in thousands of years of tradition's chains but also in the basic
relations, structures, and institutions of "modern" capitalist
society. As Bob Avakian has written, "The oppression of women is
completely bound up with the division of society into masters and
slaves, exploiters and exploited, and the ending of all such
conditions is impossible without the complete liberation of women. All
this is why women have a tremendous role to play not only in making
revolution but in making sure there is all-the-way revolution."

For all those who thought "they would never outlaw abortion" let this
be our final, sobering wake-up call. Let it be said that this was the
Supreme Court decision was the final straw after which a powerful
resistance rose.

For all those heartsick after four years of unjust war, let us shake
off passivity and complicity and prepare for struggle.

For all those who dream of a better world, break the chains! Unleash
the fury of women as a mighty force for revolution!

Sunsara Taylor writes for Revolution Newspaper and sits on the
Advisory Board of The World Can't Wait � Drive Out the Bush Regime.

YouTube - Sunsara Taylor On O'Reilly
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Play Videoyes bill oreilly is an expert on the shouting-people-down
form of democracy. ... You tube WTC 7 collapse and its an obvious
controlled demolition. ...
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skepticl1@aol.com
10-05-2008, 08:22 PM
On Oct 3, 9:56 pm, Morph The Cat <squirrlyl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <ajjce4l23f5e2e48hm3cf8ot0eck2r1...@4ax.com>,
>  Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Sydney Diego <all...@email.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >RIYADH. The so-called 'vagina' is a myth, and women should stop trying
> > >to claim that they enjoy sex, says a group of Saudi grand viziers.
>
> > >Full article here
>
> > >http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/710
>
> > The vagina may be a myth, but Mike Nolan is still a pussy.
>
> Now Lantz can't dance, that was funny...!!!

Here's an article by my friend. She's been on Bill O'Reilly A Lot, you
can see the clips on YouTube. Bill O'Reilly threatened her that if it
was true what she was saying about the Bush Administration she and her
friends would be hanging from meat hooks.

April 19, 2007

From Iraq to the Supreme Court
A New Dark Ages for Women
By SUNSARA TAYLOR

"The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we
have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity."

-- George W. Bush praising the Supreme Court decision to uphold the
ban on dilation and extraction abortions, August 18, 2007

"What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity'?"

-- George W. Bush lashing out against the Geneva Conventions and
demanding that Congress remove legal obstacles to torture, September
6, 2006


In an act of perverse dishonesty, Bush claimed the war on Iraq would
liberate women. In reality, it has visited the stench of death upon
the birth wards, the bedrooms of children, and the daily routines of
women as well as men throughout Iraq. In the post-Sadam central power
vacuum, Sharia law is flourishing, forcing women under the hijab,
fostering "honor killings" and filling the morgues with growing
numbers of women's bodies bearing signs of rape, sexual mutilation and
torture. A dark curtain is being curtain being pulled over the schools
that once served girls and dreams of equality are being snuffed out.

Here at home, George Bush's claim to support the liberation of women
is more shameless hypocrisy. Speaking sanctimoniously about the
"value" of fetal tissue, Bush has overseen the most aggressive and
cruel assault on women's fundamental rights and the fostering of an
openly patriarchal culture.

Yesterday's Supreme Court decision, which Bush heralded, criminalized
the abortion procedure scientifically known as dilation and extraction
(and manipulatively labeled "partial birth abortion" by anti-choice
fanatics) and was written so vaguely that it could be used to ban the
most common abortion procedure used by women after the first
trimester. It is a law that lays the basis to begin sending the
courageous doctors who provide women abortion procedures -- often at
the risk of death -- to prison. And, in a situation where lack of
abortion access is beginning to drive women to seek illegal abortions,
this new law is a five ton weight pressed down on women's lives
already stalked by brutality, degradation, and endless insults large
and small. It is not only a new legal precedent along the way towards
outlawing abortion it is also red meat thrown to a hungry movement of
Christian fascists determined to end not only abortion, but also birth
control and any kind of independence of women.

If women are not free to decide for themselves without shame and
without apology when and whether they will become mothers, they cannot
be free. If women are not free, then no one can be free.

Although the forms of the oppression of women in this country are
today different, this Christian fascist movement in the U.S. is the
near twin of the movements imposing Sharia law in Iraq, only it is far
more powerful given that it is embedded within the ruling elites of
the world's only superpower. It is rooted in a literal interpretation
of a scripture every bit as brutal as the Q'uran -- biblical scripture
that casts child-bearing as the only way women can be redeemed for
their alleged "original sin": "For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen
into transgression: but she shall be saved through her child-
bearing." (1 Timothy 2:13-15) This movement has initiative in the
ruling class today.

On a world scale the future for women -- HALF OF HUMANITY -- is in
grave danger.

This is not the time for putting ones hopes into a political process
that has done nothing but facilitate and legitimate the invasion,
occupation, continued occupation and now possible widening of the war
on Iraq in the face of massive public opposition. Now is not the time
for resting the future of women's control of their own destiny in the
same political process that has facilitated and legitimated the
chipping away of abortion, clinic closing by clinic closing, law by
law, and judicial nominee by judicial nominee.

This is not a time for turning one's energies towards '08 and the
slate of Democratic Party hopefuls which have ceded the moral high
ground on abortion to religious fanatics and refused to demand an end
to colonial occupation of Iraq. This is not a time for remaining
polite, being patient, or seeking "common ground."

The Bush administration -- and the imperialist system it is a product
of -- have no claim to any moral high ground in regard to women's
lives or in regard to human dignity. With their wars of aggression,
their torture, and their frontal assault on the lives of women, this
is a time when the direction they are dragging the world in must be
resisted. Fiercely. And urgently.

This is a time when Bush must be impeached and his whole direction
must be reversed.

And this is a time when everyone seriously concerned about women, here
and around the world, must look deeper to see how the oppressive,
exploitative, and brutal conditions for women are deeply rooted not
only in thousands of years of tradition's chains but also in the basic
relations, structures, and institutions of "modern" capitalist
society. As Bob Avakian has written, "The oppression of women is
completely bound up with the division of society into masters and
slaves, exploiters and exploited, and the ending of all such
conditions is impossible without the complete liberation of women. All
this is why women have a tremendous role to play not only in making
revolution but in making sure there is all-the-way revolution."

For all those who thought "they would never outlaw abortion" let this
be our final, sobering wake-up call. Let it be said that this was the
Supreme Court decision was the final straw after which a powerful
resistance rose.

For all those heartsick after four years of unjust war, let us shake
off passivity and complicity and prepare for struggle.

For all those who dream of a better world, break the chains! Unleash
the fury of women as a mighty force for revolution!

Sunsara Taylor writes for Revolution Newspaper and sits on the
Advisory Board of The World Can't Wait ­ Drive Out the Bush Regime.

YouTube - Sunsara Taylor On O'Reilly
Play VideoVideos. Channels. Community. Upload. advanced. Loading...
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YouTube - Sunsara Taylor puts Bill O'Reilly in the uncomfort zone
Play Videoyes bill oreilly is an expert on the shouting-people-down
form of democracy. ... You tube WTC 7 collapse and its an obvious
controlled demolition. ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UarLnP690i8 - 120k - Cached