View Full Version : Make no mistake, this Knicks team is D'Antoni's


Syfo-Dyas
09-29-2008, 12:21 PM
by Ken Berger

While Stephon Marbury still thinks he is running the Knicks, this was
proved to be anything but the case Friday in the very building he acts
as though he owns.

This isn't James Dolan's team anymore, either. And while Donnie Walsh
clearly has Dolan's interests at heart - putting fellow executives on
notice during the summer that the Knicks no longer will be the dumping
ground for obscene contracts and lopsided trades - it really isn't
Walsh's team, either.

This is all about Mike D'Antoni. With no player to build around and
little hope of acquiring one for at least two more years, it is the
coach's show. The Knicks are building around him.

And any current player who wants to have a future in New York had
better understand that, and understand it fast.

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"I've bought into Mike D'Antoni," Walsh said. "I'm convinced of him."

Walsh was hired to restore honor and sane management to the basketball
operations, a necessary step. But D'Antoni - his style, his appeal to
free agents, his successful track record - is the long-term solution.

"He'll make it better than I think most coaches would right now,"
Walsh said. "But with the right players, I know this guy will
deliver."

D'Antoni delivered gallows humor and punch lines Friday, and who could
blame him? A few weeks ago, he was coaching the best players on the
planet in Beijing. Someone asked if his thoughts ever wandered to the
task awaiting him in New York.

"Yeah, you mean when I was on top of the Great Wall ready to jump
off?" D'Antoni said.

He will need a sense of humor to get through this season and next. For
Starbury's sake, he'll need one to get through next week in Saratoga
Springs. But he will get through it, and the Knicks will be on their
way to a better place because of him.

D'Antoni explained that this is about learning who will be admitted to
his "circle" and who will be left behind. For the first time in a long
time, the most important figure in the Knicks' organization isn't
hitched to the bloated contracts and head cases he acquired.

"I'm kind of in a unique position in that I'm not tied to anybody,"
D'Antoni said, "and it should be that way."

So if Marbury already is challenging D'Antoni to "speak his piece" and
proclaiming, "I'm not coming off the bench here in New York," then I'm
guessing he's orbiting the circle right now. If Eddy Curry arrived in
Greenburgh this week in condition that D'Antoni described as "could be
better, could be worse," then it would appear as though the only thing
he's bought into is Entenmann's.

The beauty of it is that the coach isn't tied to anything but his
system and his reputation. If anyone cares to join him, the price of
admission is pretty clear.

D'Antoni will bring 18 players to Saratoga and said he'll give regular
minutes this season to nine or 10. There are plenty of good seats
outside the circle. Might I suggest the Knicks travel upstate with an
extra bus, the better to ship the outsiders back.

Capn'O
09-30-2008, 09:10 PM
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FIGHT

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GREENBURGH, N.Y. – They were sitting at tables scattered throughout
the practice facility, the Knicks players trapped in a “Twilight Zone”
episode. Together, they watched reporters and cameras listening to the
narcissistic and irrational ramblings of Stephon Marbury. Somehow, the
worst nightmare of Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni played out on the
eve of training camp.

Once more, Marbury was draining the spirit of hope and change out of
the room, reducing a roster to re-channeling that old self-destructive
and self-fulfilling Knicks vibe.

Here we go again, they had to think.

Nothing has changed.

Most of all, the new Knicks president and coach had discovered the
hard truth of life with the New York Knicks: Narcissistic and
irrational starts at the top with owner Jim Dolan. For all the
millions of dollars he’s paid a long list of failed executives,
coaches and players to go away, a league source says Dolan refuses to
do it with the nearly $22 million owed to Marbury in the final year of
his contract.

The last stand of Starbury promises to undermine everything that
D’Antoni wants to instill in this training camp.

“They are not going to waive (Marbury),” a league source familiar with
the situation said Monday. “That’s off the table right now. Dolan is
still the rock star contrarian. Everyone is telling him this is the
one he has to get rid of, the contract he has to dump, and he won’t do
it. He’s still the rebel without a cause.

“Donnie didn’t want him at camp. Mike didn’t want him there. But he’s
there.”

....snip...

“From what I’ve seen, he allowed Steve Nash to dribble the ball for 22
seconds,” Marbury said. “He allows guys to shoot coming down on the
break, one-on-three. For me, I like that style of basketball.”

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added that last bit on Steph's take on D'Antoni for effect.

Dan Gaters
10-01-2008, 12:51 AM
Capn'O:

> ³Donnie didn¹t want him at camp. Mike didn¹t want him there. But he¹s
> there.²

Soooo, does he outlive D' or Walshy?

DG

Noah
10-02-2008, 04:46 AM
On Sep 30, 4:10 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> “From what I’ve seen, he allowed Steve Nash to dribble the ball for 22
> seconds,” Marbury said. “He allows guys to shoot coming down on the
> break, one-on-three. For me, I like that style of basketball.”

There we go. Less discipline is surely the answer to what's been
holding Steph's game back all this time.

Call me next year.

Capn'O
10-03-2008, 06:15 PM
On Oct 1, 11:46 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 30, 4:10 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > “From what I’ve seen, he allowed Steve Nash to dribble the ball for22
> > seconds,” Marbury said. “He allows guys to shoot coming down on the
> > break, one-on-three. For me, I like that style of basketball.”
>
> There we go.  Less discipline is surely the answer to what's been
> holding Steph's game back all this time.

But what Marbury described is NOT Mike D's offense! Only on very
specific occasions did that happen. D's offense is based on quick
passes and decisions. Not plodding, halfcourt isos that wear down the
clock.

As for discipline... that is the question. When Marbury broke Larry
Brown's plays Isiah undermined LARRY by refusing to move Steph after
saying he would. If D's in town and is in charge Steph will be joining
Isiah in Italy sooner than he thinks.

Frankly, I think Marbury is trying to get bought out here and it puts
Walsh in a tough spot. Does he cave in to Steph's demands and send the
message that you can still come to the Knicks and get paid for doing
nothing? Does he set a precedent by keeping him but benching him at
risk of him becoming a huge distraction? Or does he instruct D' to let
Starbury be Starbury?