Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.

Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.

Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.

Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.

Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)

I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
---------------------------------------

In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
Oscar, possibly by KO.

PBF should come out and fight the winner.

If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)

STRATEGY

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
(in article
<a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca69696e@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):

> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
> out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> ---------------------------------------
>
> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> STRATEGY
>


It was an exciting fight. Has any other fight finished that close to the
end of the last round? I mean, one second left!!!


--
Cheers!

Dennis

Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:20:45 -0600, Ruddell
<ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
>(in article
><a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca69696e@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
>
>> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
>> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
>> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>>
>> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
>> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
>> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
>> out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
>> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
>> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
>> win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>>
>> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
>> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>>
>> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
>> flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
>> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
>> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>>
>> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
>> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>>
>> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>>
>> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
>> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>>
>> STRATEGY
>>
>
>
>It was an exciting fight. Has any other fight finished that close to the
>end of the last round? I mean, one second left!!!


And what we watching was a masterful encouragment and direct of Jack
Mosley. He was able to get his son, a rather intelligent man in my
opinion, to relax and work on his timing and speed and be patient.

It worked!

The Mosely factor is based on family.

DCI

never@millions.com writes:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:20:45 -0600, Ruddell
> <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
>>(in article
>><a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca69696e@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
>>> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
>>> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>>>
>>> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
>>> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
>>> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
>>> out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
>>> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
>>> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
>>> win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>>>
>>> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
>>> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>>>
>>> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
>>> flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
>>> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
>>> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>>>
>>> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>
>>> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
>>> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>>>
>>> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>>>
>>> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
>>> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>>>
>>> STRATEGY
>>>
>>
>>
>>It was an exciting fight. Has any other fight finished that close to the
>>end of the last round? I mean, one second left!!!
>
>
> And what we watching was a masterful encouragment and direct of Jack
> Mosley. He was able to get his son, a rather intelligent man in my
> opinion, to relax and work on his timing and speed and be patient.
>
> It worked!
>
> The Mosely factor is based on family.
>
> DCI

Did Shane ever disappoint? A real legend and sportsman.

Pernell Whitaker v. C.Chavez
_____________________________________________

On Sep 28, 3:20 pm, Ruddell <ruddell'Elle-Kabo...@canada.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
> (in article
> <a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca696...@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
> > the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> > shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> > Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> > and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> > charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
> > out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> > most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> > 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> > win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> > Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> > Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> > wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> > Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> > flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> > Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> > in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> > I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> > ---------------------------------------
>
> > In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> > Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> > PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> > If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> > would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> > STRATEGY
>
> It was an exciting fight.   Has any other fight finished that close to the
> end of the last round?  I mean, one second left!!!
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Dennis
>
> Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:38:35 +0200, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com>
wrote:

>never@millions.com writes:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:20:45 -0600, Ruddell
>> <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
>>>(in article
>>><a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca69696e@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
>>>
>>>> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
>>>> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
>>>> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>>>>
>>>> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
>>>> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
>>>> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
>>>> out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
>>>> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
>>>> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
>>>> win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>>>>
>>>> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
>>>> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>>>>
>>>> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
>>>> flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
>>>> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
>>>> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>>>>
>>>> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
>>>> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>>>>
>>>> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>>>>
>>>> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
>>>> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>>>>
>>>> STRATEGY
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It was an exciting fight. Has any other fight finished that close to the
>>>end of the last round? I mean, one second left!!!
>>
>>
>> And what we watching was a masterful encouragment and direct of Jack
>> Mosley. He was able to get his son, a rather intelligent man in my
>> opinion, to relax and work on his timing and speed and be patient.
>>
>> It worked!
>>
>> The Mosely factor is based on family.
>>
>> DCI
>
>Did Shane ever disappoint? A real legend and sportsman.


Class act for real.

DCI

On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
> out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> ---------------------------------------
>
> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> STRATEGY

While Mosley deserves props for his last-second stoppage, let's
remember that he did very little from rounds 7 through 11.

In other words his age is starting to show.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3614165

Shane's also calling out Margarito and Mayweather; hopefully for his
sake they don't answer.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:03:08 -0700 (PDT), "D.Flynn" <gunk7@msn.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
>> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
>> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>>
>> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
>> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
>> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
>> out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
>> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
>> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
>> win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>>
>> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
>> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>>
>> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
>> flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
>> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
>> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>>
>> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
>> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>>
>> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>>
>> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
>> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>>
>> STRATEGY
>
>While Mosley deserves props for his last-second stoppage, let's
>remember that he did very little from rounds 7 through 11.
>
> In other words his age is starting to show.
>http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3614165
>
>Shane's also calling out Margarito and Mayweather; hopefully for his
>sake they don't answer.

Yes, I do understand the pace of Shane Mosely's rounds during the
fight. and now can you tell me who won the bout and how it was won?

DCI

On Sep 29 2008 12:07 AM, famous21 wrote:

> Pernell Whitaker v. C.Chavez

I think you mean Meldrick Taylor vs. Julio Cesar Chavez.

-mwh

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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:20:33 -0700, "mwhaught" <mwhaught@excite.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 29 2008 12:07 AM, famous21 wrote:
>
>> Pernell Whitaker v. C.Chavez
>
>I think you mean Meldrick Taylor vs. Julio Cesar Chavez.
>
> -mwh
>
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>

That fight was stopped by Richard Steele, a referee known for
protecting fighters to the utmost, with 2 seconds left in the fight.
Taylor was ahead on the scorecards at the time.

"famous21" <famous21@msn.com> wrote in message
news:e57beac0-460a-4555-a96b-9334379b282f@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>Pernell Whitaker v. C.Chavez<

You likely (obviously?) are thinking of Chavez-Meldrick Taylor.
_____________________________________________

On Sep 28, 3:20 pm, Ruddell <ruddell'Elle-Kabo...@canada.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
> (in article
> <a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca696...@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
> > the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> > shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> > Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> > and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> > charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
> > out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> > most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> > 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> > win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> > Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> > Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> > wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> > Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> > flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> > Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> > in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> > I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> > ---------------------------------------
>
> > In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> > Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> > PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> > If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> > would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> > STRATEGY
>
> It was an exciting fight. Has any other fight finished that close to the
> end of the last round? I mean, one second left!!!
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Dennis
>
> Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"D.Flynn" <gunk7@msn.com> wrote in message news:562b40e4-2688-4f87-9391-

>While Mosley deserves props for his last-second stoppage, let's
remember that he did very little from rounds 7 through 11.<

> In other words his age is starting to show.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3614165<

>Shane's also calling out Margarito and Mayweather; hopefully for his
sake they don't answer.<

Cotto answered and Mosley answered back. Mayweather certainly is not going
to put a whooping on Shane. Mayweather might outpoint Mosley, but it
certainly, IMO, will not be an ass-kicking.

<never@millions.com> wrote in message
news:0m12e4po72la6uj5n5mc242ulgs62v32qg@4ax.com...

> That fight was stopped by Richard Steele, a referee known for
> protecting fighters to the utmost, with 2 seconds left in the fight.
> Taylor was ahead on the scorecards at the time.

Steele should have been known as a referee with poor judgment on when to
stop a fight. If you want to see an example of Steele having let a fight go
on way too long, check out Bruce Curry's beating at the fists of Billy
Costello. Curry is lucky that Costello did not kill him and Steele let the
fight go on, as ringside commentator Gil Clancy called for a stoppage.
IIRC, Clancy asked, "What is Richard Steele waiting for?"

Richard Steele was an otherwise top referee. He just showed poor judgment
when it came time to either stop a fight or allow it to continue.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:12:45 -0700, "The Sanity Cruzer"
<sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:

><never@millions.com> wrote in message
>news:0m12e4po72la6uj5n5mc242ulgs62v32qg@4ax.com...
>
>> That fight was stopped by Richard Steele, a referee known for
>> protecting fighters to the utmost, with 2 seconds left in the fight.
>> Taylor was ahead on the scorecards at the time.
>
>Steele should have been known as a referee with poor judgment on when to
>stop a fight. If you want to see an example of Steele having let a fight go
>on way too long, check out Bruce Curry's beating at the fists of Billy
>Costello. Curry is lucky that Costello did not kill him and Steele let the
>fight go on, as ringside commentator Gil Clancy called for a stoppage.
>IIRC, Clancy asked, "What is Richard Steele waiting for?"
>
>Richard Steele was an otherwise top referee. He just showed poor judgment
>when it came time to either stop a fight or allow it to continue.

A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
there are also many other referees who at one time or
another used poor judgement.

DCI

never@millions.com wrote:
> "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Steele should have been known as a referee with poor judgment on
> > when to stop a fight. If you want to see an example of Steele
> > having let a fight go on way too long, check out Bruce Curry's
> > beating at the fists of Billy Costello. Curry is lucky that
> > Costello did not kill him and Steele let the fight go on, as
> > ringside commentator Gil Clancy called for a stoppage. IIRC, Clancy
> > asked, "What is Richard Steele waiting for?"
> >
> > Richard Steele was an otherwise top referee. He just showed poor
> > judgment when it came time to either stop a fight or allow it to
> > continue.
>
> A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
> As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
> there are also many other referees who at one time or
> another used poor judgement.

The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
truly setting in? ;)

Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!

Obviously......One punch too many,,
_______________________________________________

On Sep 29, 2:06 pm, "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycru...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> "famous21" <famou...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e57beac0-460a-4555-a96b-9334379b282f@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Pernell Whitaker v. C.Chavez<
>
> You likely (obviously?) are thinking of Chavez-Meldrick Taylor.
> _____________________________________________
>
> On Sep 28, 3:20 pm, Ruddell <ruddell'Elle-Kabo...@canada.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:23:10 -0600, STRATEGY wrote
> > (in article
> > <a0d2378a-a945-4b86-a4ac-ecc4ca696...@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > > Wow, that end almost seemed scripted. Not saying it was, but without
> > > the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> > > shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> > > Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> > > and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> > > charging in crazy like a raging bull at times. That said, talent won
> > > out through most of the rounds. I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> > > most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> > > 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> > > win. But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> > > Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> > > Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> > > wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> > > Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> > > flool with Hatton. It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> > > Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> > > in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> > > I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> > > ---------------------------------------
>
> > > In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> > > Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> > > PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> > > If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> > > would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> > > STRATEGY
>
> > It was an exciting fight. Has any other fight finished that close to the
> > end of the last round? I mean, one second left!!!
>
> > --
> > Cheers!
>
> > Dennis
>
> > Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Sep 29, 5:08 pm, "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycru...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> "D.Flynn" <gu...@msn.com> wrote in message news:562b40e4-2688-4f87-9391-
> >While Mosley deserves props for his last-second stoppage, let's
>
> remember that he did very little from rounds 7 through 11.<
>
> > In other words his age is starting to show.
>
> http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3614165<
>
> >Shane's also calling out Margarito and Mayweather; hopefully for his
>
> sake they don't answer.<
>
> Cotto answered and Mosley answered back.

Mosley looked fine against Cotto but that was a year ago.

 Mayweather certainly is not going
> to put a whooping on Shane.  Mayweather might outpoint Mosley, but it
> certainly, IMO, will not be an ass-kicking.

If Mosley fought in spurts the way he did against Mayorga it would be
an easy decision for Floyd.

To be fair it could be that Shane just had an off night but I think
he's turning into the welterweight Chris Byrd.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:42:48 -0400, "Paul Dalrymple"
<PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote:

>never@millions.com wrote:
>> "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Steele should have been known as a referee with poor judgment on
>> > when to stop a fight. If you want to see an example of Steele
>> > having let a fight go on way too long, check out Bruce Curry's
>> > beating at the fists of Billy Costello. Curry is lucky that
>> > Costello did not kill him and Steele let the fight go on, as
>> > ringside commentator Gil Clancy called for a stoppage. IIRC, Clancy
>> > asked, "What is Richard Steele waiting for?"
>> >
>> > Richard Steele was an otherwise top referee. He just showed poor
>> > judgment when it came time to either stop a fight or allow it to
>> > continue.
>>
>> A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
>> As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
>> there are also many other referees who at one time or
>> another used poor judgement.
>
> The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
>showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
>truly setting in? ;)
>
> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>

Paul,

He will and I'll catch hell from both Sanity and Ivan.
Just part of life as this old man winds down.

DCI

On Sep 29 2008 9:42 PM, Paul Dalrymple wrote:

> never@millions.com wrote:
> > "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
> > As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
> > there are also many other referees who at one time or
> > another used poor judgement.
>
> The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
> showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
> truly setting in? ;)
>
> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!

It seems that Donn just revealed that TSC is dressing as Ivan Drago for
Trick or Treat. And TSC, being a method actor, is simply getting into
character early.

It all makes sense if you remember his Beyoncé outfit from last year.

-mwh

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<never@millions.com> wrote in message
news:d7d3e412n07a012enfjrd1rhbv28p3dfqq@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:42:48 -0400, "Paul Dalrymple"
> <PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>never@millions.com wrote:
>>> "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Steele should have been known as a referee with poor judgment on
>>> > when to stop a fight. If you want to see an example of Steele
>>> > having let a fight go on way too long, check out Bruce Curry's
>>> > beating at the fists of Billy Costello. Curry is lucky that
>>> > Costello did not kill him and Steele let the fight go on, as
>>> > ringside commentator Gil Clancy called for a stoppage. IIRC, Clancy
>>> > asked, "What is Richard Steele waiting for?"
>>> >
>>> > Richard Steele was an otherwise top referee. He just showed poor
>>> > judgment when it came time to either stop a fight or allow it to
>>> > continue.
>>>
>>> A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
>>> As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
>>> there are also many other referees who at one time or
>>> another used poor judgement.
>>
>> The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
>>showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
>>truly setting in? ;)
>>
>> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>>
>
> Paul,
>
> He will and I'll catch hell from both Sanity and Ivan.
> Just part of life as this old man winds down.
>
> DCI

I won't complain if Ivan doesn't squawk.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:13:38 -0700, never@millions.com wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:42:48 -0400, "Paul Dalrymple"
><PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>never@millions.com wrote:
>>> "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Steele should have been known as a referee with poor judgment on
>>> > when to stop a fight. If you want to see an example of Steele
>>> > having let a fight go on way too long, check out Bruce Curry's
>>> > beating at the fists of Billy Costello. Curry is lucky that
>>> > Costello did not kill him and Steele let the fight go on, as
>>> > ringside commentator Gil Clancy called for a stoppage. IIRC, Clancy
>>> > asked, "What is Richard Steele waiting for?"
>>> >
>>> > Richard Steele was an otherwise top referee. He just showed poor
>>> > judgment when it came time to either stop a fight or allow it to
>>> > continue.
>>>
>>> A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
>>> As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
>>> there are also many other referees who at one time or
>>> another used poor judgement.
>>
>> The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
>>showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
>>truly setting in? ;)
>>
>> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>>
>
>Paul,
>
>He will and I'll catch hell from both Sanity and Ivan.
>Just part of life as this old man winds down.
>
>DCI

Whew!! I thought I missed something...Ivan morphing into Sanity or
vice versa.

Regards,
////
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A: Watch closely. I'm only going to do this once."
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"mwhaught" <mwhaught@excite.com> wrote in message
news:0sr9r5xgu9.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Sep 29 2008 9:42 PM, Paul Dalrymple wrote:
>
>> never@millions.com wrote:
>> > "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
>> > As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
>> > there are also many other referees who at one time or
>> > another used poor judgement.
>>
>> The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
>> showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
>> truly setting in? ;)
>>
>> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>
> It seems that Donn just revealed that TSC is dressing as Ivan Drago for
> Trick or Treat. And TSC, being a method actor, is simply getting into
> character early.
>
> It all makes sense if you remember his Beyoncé outfit from last year.

Admit it. I looked GOOD!

I'm still getting phone calls.

mwhaught wrote:
> Paul Dalrymple wrote:
>
> > never@millions.com wrote:
> > > "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
> > > As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
> > > there are also many other referees who at one time or
> > > another used poor judgement.
> >
> > The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
> > showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
> > truly setting in? ;)
> >
> > Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>
> It seems that Donn just revealed that TSC is dressing as Ivan Drago
> for Trick or Treat. And TSC, being a method actor, is simply getting
> into character early.
>
> It all makes sense if you remember his Beyoncé outfit from last
> year.

Unfortunately, I don't remember that outfit. (Lucky if I can
remember things just 2 days ago, never mind 13 months!) And I
didn't want to "accuse" Donn of having Parkinson's Syndrome,
too many shots to the head, etc. I figured it was just a senior
moment! ;)

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:42:54 -0400, "Paul Dalrymple"
<PBudDalrymple@comcast.net> wrote:

>mwhaught wrote:
>> Paul Dalrymple wrote:
>>
>> > never@millions.com wrote:
>> > > "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
>> > > As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
>> > > there are also many other referees who at one time or
>> > > another used poor judgement.
>> >
>> > The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
>> > showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
>> > truly setting in? ;)
>> >
>> > Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>>
>> It seems that Donn just revealed that TSC is dressing as Ivan Drago
>> for Trick or Treat. And TSC, being a method actor, is simply getting
>> into character early.
>>
>> It all makes sense if you remember his Beyoncé outfit from last
>> year.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't remember that outfit. (Lucky if I can
>remember things just 2 days ago, never mind 13 months!) And I
>didn't want to "accuse" Donn of having Parkinson's Syndrome,
>too many shots to the head, etc. I figured it was just a senior
>moment! ;)
>

Yup, it's a senior moment with little time to spare. :)

DCI

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:06:08 -0700, "mwhaught" <mwhaught@excite.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 29 2008 9:42 PM, Paul Dalrymple wrote:
>
>> never@millions.com wrote:
>> > "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycruzer@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > A whole lot of boxing pundits agree with you, Ivan.
>> > As with Steele, using faulty decision making, however,
>> > there are also many other referees who at one time or
>> > another used poor judgement.
>>
>> The Sanity Cruzer is Ivan? Just another senior moment,
>> showing your age, etc. DCI? Or is dementia/Alzheimer's
>> truly setting in? ;)
>>
>> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>
>It seems that Donn just revealed that TSC is dressing as Ivan Drago for
>Trick or Treat. And TSC, being a method actor, is simply getting into
>character early.
>
>It all makes sense if you remember his Beyoncé outfit from last year.
>
> -mwh
>

Yeah, that was sweet but the year before when he dressed like Arnold
Schwarzenegger and his cod piece fell off was priceless!

Regards,
////
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A: Watch closely. I'm only going to do this once."
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Steve

On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
> out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> ---------------------------------------
>
> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> STRATEGY
*******************
Uhhh Strategy,

Mosley outclassed Mayorga the entire fight. What were you watching.
The judges cards (118-109, 118-109 & 116-111). ..., H. Lederman, all
had Mosley big. Shane is not a boxer, He has weak jab. He is a
counter puncher who relies on speed and combos, and heart. It's a
joke that you state that, " he really took Shane out of his rhythm/
balance and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time".
Mosley outclassed him and then KO'd him for good measure. SSM should
fight Cotto, then Margarito if he wins.

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:25:12 -0700 (PDT), boxingslasthope
<fitz22@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
>> the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
>> shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>>
>> Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
>> and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
>> charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
>> out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
>> most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
>> 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
>> win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>>
>> Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
>> wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>>
>> Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
>> flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
>> Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
>> in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>>
>> I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>> In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
>> Oscar, possibly by KO.
>>
>> PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>>
>> If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
>> would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>>
>> STRATEGY
>*******************
>Uhhh Strategy,
>
>Mosley outclassed Mayorga the entire fight. What were you watching.
>The judges cards (118-109, 118-109 & 116-111). ..., H. Lederman, all
>had Mosley big. Shane is not a boxer, He has weak jab. He is a
>counter puncher who relies on speed and combos, and heart. It's a
>joke that you state that, " he really took Shane out of his rhythm/
>balance and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time".
>Mosley outclassed him and then KO'd him for good measure. SSM should
>fight Cotto, then Margarito if he wins.

Last Hope, Moseley is not a boxer? A counter puncher is not a boxer?

DCI

boxingslasthope <fitz22@hotmail.com> writes:

>
> Mosley outclassed Mayorga the entire fight. What were you watching.
> The judges cards (118-109, 118-109 & 116-111). ..., H. Lederman, all
> had Mosley big. Shane is not a boxer, He has weak jab. He is a

Shane is not a boxer?

*guffaw*

On Oct 1, 8:25 pm, boxingslasthope <fit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
> > the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> > shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> > Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> > and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> > charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
> > out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> > most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> > 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> > win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> > Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> > Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> > wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> > Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> > flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> > Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> > in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> > I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> > ---------------------------------------
>
> > In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> > Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> > PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> > If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> > would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> > STRATEGY
>
> *******************
> Uhhh Strategy,
>
> Mosley outclassed Mayorga the entire fight.  What were you watching.
> The judges cards (118-109, 118-109 & 116-111). ..., H. Lederman, all
> had Mosley big.

Actually, one judge had Mayorga up by a point going into the 12th and
the others had Mosley by one and five point margins.

<  Shane is not a boxer,

?!?


>It's a joke that you state that, " he really took Shane out of his
rhythm/
> balance and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time".

Well then I must have fallen for Strategy's "joke" because that's how
I saw the early rounds.

If you're boxing's last hope then our sport is in deep doo-doo...

On Oct 1, 10:34 pm, "D.Flynn" <gu...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 8:25 pm, boxingslasthope <fit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
> > > the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> > > shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> > > Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> > > and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> > > charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talent won
> > > out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more credit that
> > > most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> > > 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> > > win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end.
>
> > > Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> > > Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> > > wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah.
>
> > > Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> > > flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> > > Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> > > in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> > > I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> > > ---------------------------------------
>
> > > In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> > > Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> > > PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> > > If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> > > would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> > > STRATEGY
>
> > *******************
> > Uhhh Strategy,
>
> > Mosley outclassed Mayorga the entire fight.  What were you watching.
> > The judges cards (118-109, 118-109 & 116-111). ..., H. Lederman, all
> > had Mosley big.
>
> Actually, one judge had Mayorga up by a point going into the 12th and
> the others had Mosley by one and five point margins.
>
> <  Shane is not a boxer,
>
> ?!?
>
>  >It's a joke that you state that, " he really took Shane out of his
> rhythm/
>
> > balance and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time".
>
> Well then I must have fallen for Strategy's "joke" because that's how
> I saw the early rounds.
>
> If you're boxing's last hope then our sport is in deep doo-doo...

*****************
A counter puncher is not a classic boxer. I was sorry to expect that
you would know better. James Toney is counter puncher. Ali is a
classic boxer. I hope I simplified it for you. BTW: Based on the
scores it is impossible that Mayorga was up on any one's score cards,
except maybe yours.

fg
************************

"boxingslasthope" <fitz22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0542c51d-86a0-4ba9-aa52-ddb08c0f8e5c@q5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>A counter puncher is not a classic boxer. I was sorry to expect that
you would know better. James Toney is counter puncher. Ali is a
classic boxer. <

Ali was a classic boxer? You're a fucking idiot to say what you said to D.
Flynn and then to come back with that line. Ali was so unorthodox, he broke
new ground. If you knew half as much Flynn, you'd be twice as knowledgeable
as you are.

>I hope I simplified it for you.<

You simplified it as only a simpleton can. As Albert Einstein said (Google
him), "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

>BTW: Based on the
scores it is impossible that Mayorga was up on any one's score cards, except
maybe yours.<

Based upon your statement, one judge did the "impossible". But then, it
wouldn't be "impossible" if one judge did it, which would make your
statement incorrect (no surprise there). Simple, eh?

From ESPN.com:
"Mosley led by one point on judge Nelson Vasquez's scorecard and five on
Tony Crebs' card entering the 12th round. Mayorga had a one-point lead on
judge Pat Russell's card."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3613605

On Oct 2, 10:06 pm, boxingslasthope <fit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 10:34 pm, "D.Flynn" <gu...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 8:25 pm, boxingslasthope <fit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 28, 1:23 pm, STRATEGY <Strategy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Wow, that end almost seemed scripted.  Not saying it was, but without
> > > > the ending it would be hard to justify Shane getting another title
> > > > shot with just a 'decent' win instead of a spectacular one.
>
> > > > Mayorga imressed me, he really took Shane out of his rhythm/balance
> > > > and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time, Shane
> > > > charging in crazy like a raging bull at times.  That said, talentwon
> > > > out through most of the rounds.  I gave Mayorga a bit more creditthat
> > > > most of the announcers (except for Manny), I thought had Mayorga won
> > > > 11 and 12, he might've eked out a draw or even a controversion SD
> > > > win.  But it wasn't to be, Shane showed too much heart at the end..
>
> > > > Had Mayorga fought Trinidad in this manner, he might've won.
>
> > > > Anyway, I don't know if I want to see Shane vs. Margarito, but I
> > > > wouldn't mind Shane/Cotto II, Shane/Forrst III, or even Shane/Judah..
>
> > > > Can Shane possibly make 140 again? if so, I think he would mop the
> > > > flool with Hatton.  It would be a good ooke for Shane to be a legit
> > > > Ring champion at this stage in his career and would likely surpass ODH
> > > > in career accomplishments (if he hans't already)
>
> > > > I also think Shane/Oscar III would be great, and a total toss-up
> > > > ---------------------------------------
>
> > > > In other news, I am going against the RSb grain and taking Pacman over
> > > > Oscar, possibly by KO.
>
> > > > PBF should come out and fight the winner.
>
> > > > If Manny loses he should fight JMM for 135 supremacy, but i reckon he
> > > > would try to fight Hatton instead (for more money and less risk, IMO)
>
> > > > STRATEGY
>
> > > *******************
> > > Uhhh Strategy,
>
> > > Mosley outclassed Mayorga the entire fight.  What were you watching..
> > > The judges cards (118-109, 118-109 & 116-111). ..., H. Lederman, all
> > > had Mosley big.
>
> > Actually, one judge had Mayorga up by a point going into the 12th and
> > the others had Mosley by one and five point margins.
>
> > <  Shane is not a boxer,
>
> > ?!?
>
> >  >It's a joke that you state that, " he really took Shane out of his
> > rhythm/
>
> > > balance and inticed him to fight instead of box a lot of the time".
>
> > Well then I must have fallen for Strategy's "joke" because that's how
> > I saw the early rounds.
>
> > If you're boxing's last hope then our sport is in deep doo-doo...
>
> *****************
> A counter puncher is not a classic boxer.  I was sorry to expect that
> you would know better. James Toney is counter puncher.  Ali is a
> classic boxer.  I hope I simplified it for you.  BTW:  Based on the
> scores it is impossible that Mayorga was up on any one's score cards,
> except maybe yours.

I don't know where you got your bogus scores from (118-109 twice ,
116-111) but the real scores are all over the net.

Here's a link to go along w/the one Sanity gave you.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=4952&cat=boxer

<never@millions.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>>
>
> Paul,
>
> He will and I'll catch hell from both Sanity and Ivan.
> Just part of life as this old man winds down.
--
I forgive you. Donn. :-)
--
ivan

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 05:10:48 -0700, "Ivan Weiss"
<ivan.weiss@centurytel.net> wrote:

>
><never@millions.com> wrote in message
>news:d7d3e412n07a012enfjrd1rhbv28p3dfqq@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Better hope Ivan never sees *that* post!
>>>
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> He will and I'll catch hell from both Sanity and Ivan.
>> Just part of life as this old man winds down.
>--
>I forgive you. Donn. :-)

Ivan, I truly appreciate your word. Now I can rest easily until my
next gaffe. ;)

DCI