Sure hope so.

In article
<f4192b8f-65da-4087-b681-238cf77d32ee@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Lord Buckeye <l_buckeye@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sure hope so.

You must be thinking Pablo Sandoval won't pan out.

Or do you mean back in Cincinnati?

On Sep 13, 2:52 pm, radiomd <radi...@outthere.net> wrote:
> In article
> <f4192b8f-65da-4087-b681-238cf77d3...@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
>  Lord Buckeye <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Sure hope so.
>
> You must be thinking Pablo Sandoval won't pan out.
>
> Or do you mean back in Cincinnati?

I mean off the bench of course. Just like this year. Sandoval will
start.

In article
<2e85f043-40f3-4a7b-a241-1fef1d251937@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Lord Buckeye <l_buckeye@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sep 13, 2:52 pm, radiomd <radi...@outthere.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <f4192b8f-65da-4087-b681-238cf77d3...@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> >  Lord Buckeye <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure hope so.
> >
> > You must be thinking Pablo Sandoval won't pan out.
> >
> > Or do you mean back in Cincinnati?
>
> I mean off the bench of course. Just like this year. Sandoval will
> start.

My thoughts: get him on the plane out of Casablanca. Where we have to go
he can't follow, and what we've got to do he can't be any part of. We'll
always have 2001 and the really good NLCS he had against St. Louis in
2002.

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:45:35 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
<l_buckeye@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Sure hope so.

Why do you think Sabean should be fired when you want to keep all his
shitty acquisitions?
--
Greg Lentz

On Sep 13, 2:45�pm, Lord Buckeye <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sure hope so.

Sure hope not.

On Sep 13, 8:25 pm, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:45:35 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
>
> <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Sure hope so.
>
> Why do you think Sabean should be fired when you want to keep all his
> shitty acquisitions?
> --
> Greg Lentz

I would not call what Richie has done this year exactly shitty. You
got a bench player lined up for next year with his numbers? Please
tell who it is.

On Sep 14, 2:36 pm, Lord Buckeye <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 13, 8:25 pm, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:45:35 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
>
> > <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >Sure hope so.
>
> > Why do you think Sabean should be fired when you want to keep all his
> > shitty acquisitions?
> > --
> > Greg Lentz
>
> I would not call what Richie has done this year exactly shitty. You
> got a bench player lined up for next year with his numbers? Please
> tell who it is.


Not sure why we would want Rich back.

If you expect the Giants to contend, then Rich is certainly a useful
guy to pinch hit or give one of your regulars a day off.
If you don't expect to contend then why would you resign Rich?
-He is not cheap at $4.5million
-At 38 next year, he is more likely to be injured than someone
younger.
-At 38, his is more likely to suffer a significant decline in
performance than someone younger.

I don't expect the Giants to contend next year. Even if they do, the
Giants should be able to find someone younger and cheaper to fill the
utility role.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:36:56 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
<l_buckeye@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sep 13, 8:25 pm, Greg Lentz <nodamns...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:45:35 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
>>
>> <l_buck...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Sure hope so.
>>
>> Why do you think Sabean should be fired when you want to keep all his
>> shitty acquisitions?
>
>I would not call what Richie has done this year exactly shitty. You
>got a bench player lined up for next year with his numbers? Please
>tell who it is.

I would say the odds are strong you could get Bowker to do his job next
year as well or better for a fraction of Aurilia's cost. Aurilia will
only continue to get worse, while Bowker will likely get better.

..757 OPS for a backup 1B is not good.
--
Greg Lentz

"Radio Doc" said:

>My thoughts: get him on the plane out of
>Casablanca. Where we have to go he can't
>follow, and what we've got to do he can't be
>any part of. We'll always have 2001 and the
>really good NLCS he had against St. Louis in
>2002.

A couple of weeks late but I appreciate your humour here, Rad Doc,
especially with "Casablanca" having been on TV just last night.

In article <16905-48E03273-275@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>,
irishfleurdelis@webtv.net (Fleur) wrote:

> "Radio Doc" said:
>
> >My thoughts: get him on the plane out of
> >Casablanca. Where we have to go he can't
> >follow, and what we've got to do he can't be
> >any part of. We'll always have 2001 and the
> >really good NLCS he had against St. Louis in
> >2002.
>
> A couple of weeks late but I appreciate your humour here, Rad Doc,
> especially with "Casablanca" having been on TV just last night.

It doesn't take much to see that the problems of Giants fans don't
amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.

So let's start the discussion of the offseason roster moves. Who has got
to go, besides Richie?

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:47:03 -0700, radiomd <radiomd@outthere.net>
wrote:

>In article <16905-48E03273-275@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>,
> irishfleurdelis@webtv.net (Fleur) wrote:
>
>> "Radio Doc" said:
>>
>> >My thoughts: get him on the plane out of
>> >Casablanca. Where we have to go he can't
>> >follow, and what we've got to do he can't be
>> >any part of. We'll always have 2001 and the
>> >really good NLCS he had against St. Louis in
>> >2002.
>>
>> A couple of weeks late but I appreciate your humour here, Rad Doc,
>> especially with "Casablanca" having been on TV just last night.
>
>It doesn't take much to see that the problems of Giants fans don't
>amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.
>
>So let's start the discussion of the offseason roster moves. Who has got
>to go, besides Richie?

75% of the bullpen and Velez.

In article <t3m0e4dmbv3mqqptsm1r1hibe5rde8q1r6@4ax.com>,
JW <JohnW@clearwire.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:47:03 -0700, radiomd <radiomd@outthere.net>
> wrote:
>
> >So let's start the discussion of the offseason roster moves. Who has got
> >to go, besides Richie?
>
> 75% of the bullpen

Taschner, Hennessey, and Correia -- I agree it's time for them to ply
their trade in other organizations. And Walker, who has been around the
block before, needs to have another go.

Anybody else in there on your list? What about Yabu? Does he come back
for another season? And speaking of him, happy 40th birthday, Mr. Yabu.

> and Velez.

I don't see a role for Velez next year either. I still think they'll
sign a veteran middle infielder, put Burriss in the other middle infield
spot, and give Frandsen the inside track on the 300 AB utility IF/OF
job. That would leave another roster spot for an infielder who can play
short and maybe provide some late-inning speed on the basepaths. Velez
doesn't have the right mix of skills.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:46:06 -0700, radiomd <radiomd@outthere.net>
wrote:

>In article <t3m0e4dmbv3mqqptsm1r1hibe5rde8q1r6@4ax.com>,
> JW <JohnW@clearwire.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:47:03 -0700, radiomd <radiomd@outthere.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >So let's start the discussion of the offseason roster moves. Who has got
>> >to go, besides Richie?
>>
>> 75% of the bullpen
>
>Taschner, Hennessey, and Correia -- I agree it's time for them to ply
>their trade in other organizations. And Walker, who has been around the
>block before, needs to have another go.

I don't trust Walker anymore that I do the rest of your list. He's had
more than his fair share of chances. Okay, spring training is make or
break for him.

>Anybody else in there on your list? What about Yabu? Does he come back
>for another season? And speaking of him, happy 40th birthday, Mr. Yabu.

Another hit or miss bullpen special. Outside of Wilson, there's no
reasonable consistency in the bullpen, especially when they get buried
on the lead. It's as if, once they are down, the bullpen comes in to
bury them further.

>
>> and Velez.
>
>I don't see a role for Velez next year either. I still think they'll
>sign a veteran middle infielder, put Burriss in the other middle infield
>spot, and give Frandsen the inside track on the 300 AB utility IF/OF
>job. That would leave another roster spot for an infielder who can play
>short and maybe provide some late-inning speed on the basepaths. Velez
>doesn't have the right mix of skills.

I'm all for Burriss and Frandsen back on the infield, especially
Frandsen. Give Frandsen a start and see what he can do with it. Until
he had his first injury, he was hitting well and he wasn't generating
a bag full of errors like Velez.

I admire Velez's speed, but he just can't field the infield or the
outfield. He's a liability even on the basepaths. No head for the
game it seems. Most players learn from thier mistakes, Velez does not
seem so inclined.

radiomd <radiomd@outthere.net> wrote in news:radiomd-225438.20470328092008
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net:

> So let's start the discussion of the offseason roster moves. Who has got
> to go, besides Richie?

Dave Roberts. But, he won't.

Vizquel, and he will.