What the HELL was THAT with the last 3 drives?

run-dink pass-dink pass-punt-run-run-dink
pass-run-punt-run-run-run-penalty-run-punt.

One of the best passers in history, one or two 1st downs from putting the
game away and Schottgini turns him into CHAD???

Almost cost the game... Favre must have been boiling inside...

NY Jets - 14:09
1st-10, NYJ1414:09T. Jones rushed up the middle for no gain
2nd-10, NYJ1413:28NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
2nd-15, NYJ913:06B. Favre passed to L. Washington to the left for 13 yard
gain
3rd-2, NYJ2212:32B. Favre passed to T. Jones to the right for 4 yard loss
4th-6, NYJ1812:11B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 4 yards

NY Jets - 9:03
1st-10, NYJ29:03NYJ committed 1 yard penalty
1st-11, NYJ19:03T. Jones rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-8, NYJ48:26B. Favre passed to B. Franks to the right for 5 yard gain
3rd-3, NYJ97:41L. Washington rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
4th-4, NYJ86:48B. Graham punt, no return

NY Jets - 3:21
1st-10, NYJ183:21T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
2nd-6, NYJ222:35T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
3rd-2, NYJ262:00NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
3rd-7, NYJ212:00T. Jones rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
4th-4, NYJ241:43B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 9 yards. NYJ
committed 5 yard penalty

On Sep 7, 6:08 pm, "thisbeit" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What the HELL was THAT with the last 3 drives?
>
> run-dink pass-dink pass-punt-run-run-dink
> pass-run-punt-run-run-run-penalty-run-punt.
>
> One of the best passers in history, one or two 1st downs from putting the
> game away and Schottgini turns him into CHAD???
>
> Almost cost the game...  Favre must have been boiling inside...
>
> NY Jets - 14:09
> 1st-10, NYJ1414:09T. Jones rushed up the middle for no gain
> 2nd-10, NYJ1413:28NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
> 2nd-15, NYJ913:06B. Favre passed to L. Washington to the left for 13 yard
> gain
> 3rd-2, NYJ2212:32B. Favre passed to T. Jones to the right for 4 yard loss
> 4th-6, NYJ1812:11B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 4 yards
>
> NY Jets - 9:03
> 1st-10, NYJ29:03NYJ committed 1 yard penalty
> 1st-11, NYJ19:03T. Jones rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
> 2nd-8, NYJ48:26B. Favre passed to B. Franks to the right for 5 yard gain
> 3rd-3, NYJ97:41L. Washington rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
> 4th-4, NYJ86:48B. Graham punt, no return
>
> NY Jets - 3:21
> 1st-10, NYJ183:21T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
> 2nd-6, NYJ222:35T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
> 3rd-2, NYJ262:00NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
> 3rd-7, NYJ212:00T. Jones rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
> 4th-4, NYJ241:43B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 9 yards. NYJ
> committed 5 yard penalty

Can't agree with you here, I tjought they did the right thing to run
Jones late, try to make Miami use their last time out, and then run
our the clock. If we don't get the 5 yard penalty, we more than
likely get a first down on 3rd and 1, and then run out the clock.

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Coach Lon
<coachlon@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 7, 6:08 pm, "thisbeit" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> What the HELL was THAT with the last 3 drives?
>>
>> run-dink pass-dink pass-punt-run-run-dink
>> pass-run-punt-run-run-run-penalty-run-punt.
>>
>> One of the best passers in history, one or two 1st downs from putting the
>> game away and Schottgini turns him into CHAD???
>>
>> Almost cost the game...  Favre must have been boiling inside...
>>
>> NY Jets - 14:09
>> 1st-10, NYJ1414:09T. Jones rushed up the middle for no gain
>> 2nd-10, NYJ1413:28NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
>> 2nd-15, NYJ913:06B. Favre passed to L. Washington to the left for 13 yard
>> gain
>> 3rd-2, NYJ2212:32B. Favre passed to T. Jones to the right for 4 yard loss
>> 4th-6, NYJ1812:11B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 4 yards
>>
>> NY Jets - 9:03
>> 1st-10, NYJ29:03NYJ committed 1 yard penalty
>> 1st-11, NYJ19:03T. Jones rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
>> 2nd-8, NYJ48:26B. Favre passed to B. Franks to the right for 5 yard gain
>> 3rd-3, NYJ97:41L. Washington rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
>> 4th-4, NYJ86:48B. Graham punt, no return
>>
>> NY Jets - 3:21
>> 1st-10, NYJ183:21T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
>> 2nd-6, NYJ222:35T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
>> 3rd-2, NYJ262:00NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
>> 3rd-7, NYJ212:00T. Jones rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
>> 4th-4, NYJ241:43B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 9 yards. NYJ
>> committed 5 yard penalty
>
>Can't agree with you here, I tjought they did the right thing to run
>Jones late, try to make Miami use their last time out, and then run
>our the clock. If we don't get the 5 yard penalty, we more than
>likely get a first down on 3rd and 1, and then run out the clock.

on a 3rd and 7, a first down would have won the game. how do you take
the ball out of favre's hands? yes, running the ball with a lead to
kill the clock is academic, but how about a little credit to a guy
that will make a 3rd and 7 way more often than not. that conservative
thinking almost cost the jets the game.

On Sep 8, 4:48 pm, Big Balls Billy <server...@att.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Coach Lon
>
>
>
>
>
> <coach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 7, 6:08 pm, "thisbeit" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> What the HELL was THAT with the last 3 drives?
>
> >> run-dink pass-dink pass-punt-run-run-dink
> >> pass-run-punt-run-run-run-penalty-run-punt.
>
> >> One of the best passers in history, one or two 1st downs from putting the
> >> game away and Schottgini turns him into CHAD???
>
> >> Almost cost the game...  Favre must have been boiling inside...
>
> >> NY Jets - 14:09
> >> 1st-10, NYJ1414:09T. Jones rushed up the middle for no gain
> >> 2nd-10, NYJ1413:28NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
> >> 2nd-15, NYJ913:06B. Favre passed to L. Washington to the left for 13 yard
> >> gain
> >> 3rd-2, NYJ2212:32B. Favre passed to T. Jones to the right for 4 yard loss
> >> 4th-6, NYJ1812:11B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 4 yards
>
> >> NY Jets - 9:03
> >> 1st-10, NYJ29:03NYJ committed 1 yard penalty
> >> 1st-11, NYJ19:03T. Jones rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
> >> 2nd-8, NYJ48:26B. Favre passed to B. Franks to the right for 5 yard gain
> >> 3rd-3, NYJ97:41L. Washington rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
> >> 4th-4, NYJ86:48B. Graham punt, no return
>
> >> NY Jets - 3:21
> >> 1st-10, NYJ183:21T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
> >> 2nd-6, NYJ222:35T. Jones rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
> >> 3rd-2, NYJ262:00NYJ committed 5 yard penalty
> >> 3rd-7, NYJ212:00T. Jones rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
> >> 4th-4, NYJ241:43B. Graham punt. T. Ginn Jr. returned punt for 9 yards.NYJ
> >> committed 5 yard penalty
>
> >Can't agree with you here, I tjought they did the right thing to run
> >Jones late, try to make Miami use their last time out, and then run
> >our the clock.  If we don't get the 5 yard penalty, we more than
> >likely get a first down on 3rd and 1, and then run out the clock.
>
> on a 3rd and 7, a first down would have won the game. how do you take
> the ball out of favre's hands? yes, running the ball with a lead to
> kill the clock is academic, but how about a little credit to a guy
> that will make a 3rd and 7 way more often than not. that conservative
> thinking almost cost the jets the game.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You make an excellent point now with Brett Favre as our QB, but going
the conservative route keeps the ball on the ground, the clock running
and with the right alignment maybe a first down. With the passing
option, you have to consider the sack scenario with a potential loss
of field position or in a worst case situation an interception, giving
the Dolphins excellent field position with a time out left. Yes, it's
more conservative to run in that situation, but once again if we don't
get the penalty after the punt, and then stop them on downs, we're not
having this conversation. Sometimes, conservative is the way to go
(for me).

I'm glad we held on in the end; it seemed like another Jets game as
usual in those last few moments.