Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
trade with the Rockets.

He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.

However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
forward position.

So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.

Twin Towers of Yao Ming and Freddy Weis in Houston?
That's electrifying.

DG

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:08:15 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>trade with the Rockets.
>
>He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
>However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
>trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>forward position.
>
>So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>


I don't understand how anybody can say anything negative about this
trade. We actually get a young player, a live body out of that
horrible Frederic Weis pick? I wrote that horrible move off a long
time ago and we made something out of nothing for once. We basically
get a talented, young player from a great program with good character
and athleticism for a stiff that the old, old regime picked almost 10
years ago. I mean Weis was too afraid to come to the NBA after being
embarassed by Vince Carter showing his lack of heart. No Jr. is not
his dad, but this kid has heart and even some skills and is more than
a mere publicity stunt. At the least the move gives us additional
flexibility to make more moves and clear extra cap space without
taking a huge loss in the talent department. If he gives us anything
near what Daryl Strawberry's kid did for Phoenix then this is a very
solid, positive move for the Knicks.

On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> trade with the Rockets.
>
> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> forward position.
>
> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.

I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.

I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
level though and he can jump out of the gym.

Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.

Is Walsh a divinin' man.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:04:37 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@nomail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:08:15 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>trade with the Rockets.
>>
>>He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>
>>However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
>>trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>forward position.
>>
>>So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>
>
>
>I don't understand how anybody can say anything negative about this
>trade.

Well, I guess a piece of shit (Ewing Jr.) is better than no pieces of
shit (Weis)

>We actually get a young player, a live body out of that
>horrible Frederic Weis pick?

Geez, as if the Knicks would need another "young player", "live body"
to fill this roster. Isaiah, is that you?

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
<dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>> trade with the Rockets.
>>
>> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>
>> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>> forward position.
>>
>> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
>I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
>I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
>Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
>Is Walsh a divinin' man.

Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown. Not exactly an
offensive force.

Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
Which MAY be able to improve on.

Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
produce.

Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
living off his father's legacy.

To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
that?

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:02:58 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:04:37 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@nomail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:08:15 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>>round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>>trade with the Rockets.
>>>
>>>He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>>crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>>can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>>
>>>However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
>>>trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>>and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>>forward position.
>>>
>>>So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>>offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>>defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I don't understand how anybody can say anything negative about this
>>trade.
>
>Well, I guess a piece of shit (Ewing Jr.) is better than no pieces of
>shit (Weis)

Are you a real doctor?? If so your bedside manner needs work. Ewing a
piece of shit? Don't you think that is a bit harsh!

On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
>
>
> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> >> forward position.
>
> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
> offensive force.
>
> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> produce.
>
> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> living off his father's legacy.
>
> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> that?

2 points:

1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.

2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.

That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
gets a shot to make this team...

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:38:09 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@nomail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:02:58 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:04:37 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@nomail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:08:15 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>>>round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>>>trade with the Rockets.
>>>>
>>>>He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>>>crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>>>can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>>>
>>>>However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
>>>>trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>>>and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>>>forward position.
>>>>
>>>>So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>>>offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>>>defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't understand how anybody can say anything negative about this
>>>trade.
>>
>>Well, I guess a piece of shit (Ewing Jr.) is better than no pieces of
>>shit (Weis)
>
>Are you a real doctor?? If so your bedside manner needs work. Ewing a
>piece of shit? Don't you think that is a bit harsh!

I am sorry, you are right.

I guess a borderline bench warmer on this team is better than an
invisible body from Europe.

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
<dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>
>>
>>
>> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>> >> trade with the Rockets.
>>
>> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>
>> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>> >> forward position.
>>
>> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>
>> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>>
>> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>>
>> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>>
>> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>>
>> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
>> offensive force.
>>
>> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
>> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>>
>> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
>> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
>> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
>> produce.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
>> living off his father's legacy.
>>
>> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
>> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
>> that?
>
>2 points:
>
>1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
>won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.

Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"

>2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
>"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
>translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.

So you agree.

>That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
>invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
>gets a shot to make this team...

And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:24:24 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
><dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>> >> trade with the Rockets.
>>>
>>> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>>
>>> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>>> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>> >> forward position.
>>>
>>> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>>
>>> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>>>
>>> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>>> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>>> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>>> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>>> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>>>
>>> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>>> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>>>
>>> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>>>
>>> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
>>> offensive force.
>>>
>>> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
>>> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>>>
>>> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
>>> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
>>> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
>>> produce.
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
>>> living off his father's legacy.
>>>
>>> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
>>> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
>>> that?
>>
>>2 points:
>>
>>1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
>>won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
>Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
>>2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
>>"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
>>translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
>So you agree.
>
>>That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
>>invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
>>gets a shot to make this team...
>
>And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
>not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
>
I "gloceries" a typo or are you trying to be funny like in saying "I
like flied lice" ???

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:07:07 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@nomail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:24:24 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>><dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>>> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>>> >> trade with the Rockets.
>>>>
>>>> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>>> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>>> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>>>
>>>> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>>>> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>>> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>>> >> forward position.
>>>>
>>>> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>>> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>>> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>>>
>>>> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>>>>
>>>> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>>>> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>>>> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>>>> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>>>> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>>>>
>>>> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>>>> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>>>>
>>>> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>>>>
>>>> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
>>>> offensive force.
>>>>
>>>> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
>>>> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>>>>
>>>> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
>>>> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
>>>> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
>>>> produce.
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
>>>> living off his father's legacy.
>>>>
>>>> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
>>>> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
>>>> that?
>>>
>>>2 points:
>>>
>>>1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
>>>won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>>
>>Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>>
>>>2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
>>>"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
>>>translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>>
>>So you agree.
>>
>>>That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
>>>invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
>>>gets a shot to make this team...
>>
>>And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
>>not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>>
>>
>I "gloceries" a typo or are you trying to be funny like in saying "I
>like flied lice" ???

Trying to add humor to the rumor.

On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
>
>
> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> >> >> forward position.
>
> >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications..
> >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
> >> offensive force.
>
> >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> >> produce.
>
> >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> >> that?
>
> >2 points:
>
> >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> So you agree.
>
> >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had his last name
> not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark

The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
the floor.

I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
Ewing may make the team for that role.

On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
> > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > >> >> forward position.
>
> > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > >> >> offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown. Not exactly an
> > >> offensive force.
>
> > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > >> produce.
>
> > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > >> that?
>
> > >2 points:
>
> > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > So you agree.
>
> > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
> > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> the floor.
>
> I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
> he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
> Ewing may make the team for that role.

Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe. FWIW I was in
Chen's camp on this one, which rarely happens. I follow the college
game a lot and have no idea why Ewing was even drafted at all. I can
see the invite to camp by the Knicks, but doubt he would have made the
team, or any other NBA team at this point.

Rizzo

On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead ofhim
> > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
> > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > >> produce.
>
> > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems tobe
> > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > >> that?
>
> > > >2 points:
>
> > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > So you agree.
>
> > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had his last name
> > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > the floor.
>
> > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
> > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
> > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>
> Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.

I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
Gordon?

 FWIW I was in
> Chen's camp on this one, which rarely happens.  I follow the college
> game a lot and have no idea why Ewing was even drafted at all.  I can
> see the invite to camp by the Knicks, but doubt he would have made the
> team, or any other NBA team at this point.

We're all in the same camp basically... for me it's basically the
symbolic value of reversing two of the main events that set this
franchise's downward spiral in motion... the Weis pick and the Pat Sr.
trade. It's an intriguing move to make and a nice gesture to the
hardcore fans who have withstood all of the BS since then.

If we get something out of Jr. it's gravy. I doubt it too but I'm
rooting for the guy though because I do like what he brought to the
table at Georgetown. He got his father's love for the game... if not
his skill.

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
<dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>
>> > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>
>> > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>> > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>> > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>>
>> > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>> > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>> > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>
>> > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>> > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>> > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>> > > >> >> forward position.
>>
>> > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>> > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>> > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>
>> > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>>
>> > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>> > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>> > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>> > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>> > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>>
>> > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>> > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>>
>> > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>>
>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
>> > > >> offensive force.
>>
>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
>> > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>>
>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
>> > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
>> > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
>> > > >> produce.
>>
>> > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
>> > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>>
>> > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
>> > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
>> > > >> that?
>>
>> > > >2 points:
>>
>> > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
>> > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>>
>> > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>>
>> > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
>> > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
>> > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>>
>> > > So you agree.
>>
>> > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
>> > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
>> > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>>
>> > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had his last name
>> > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>>
>> > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
>> > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
>> > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
>> > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
>> > the floor.
>>
>> > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
>> > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
>> > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
>> > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
>> > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
>> > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>>
>> Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>
>I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
>Gordon?
>
> FWIW I was in
>> Chen's camp on this one, which rarely happens.  I follow the college
>> game a lot and have no idea why Ewing was even drafted at all.  I can
>> see the invite to camp by the Knicks, but doubt he would have made the
>> team, or any other NBA team at this point.
>
>We're all in the same camp basically... for me it's basically the
>symbolic value of reversing two of the main events that set this
>franchise's downward spiral in motion... the Weis pick and the Pat Sr.
>trade. It's an intriguing move to make and a nice gesture to the
>hardcore fans who have withstood all of the BS since then.
>
>If we get something out of Jr. it's gravy. I doubt it too but I'm
>rooting for the guy though because I do like what he brought to the
>table at Georgetown. He got his father's love for the game... if not
>his skill.

He's only got one trait from his father: hustle and play the guts out.
I guess it'll be fun watching him run up and down the court and give
110% on every play...

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:08:17 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
><dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>>
>>> > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>>
>>> > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>> > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>> > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>>>
>>> > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>> > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>> > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>>
>>> > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>>> > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>> > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>> > > >> >> forward position.
>>>
>>> > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>> > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>> > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>>
>>> > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>>>
>>> > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>>> > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>>> > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>>> > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>>> > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>>>
>>> > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>>> > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>>>
>>> > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>>>
>>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
>>> > > >> offensive force.
>>>
>>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
>>> > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>>>
>>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
>>> > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
>>> > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
>>> > > >> produce.
>>>
>>> > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
>>> > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>>>
>>> > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
>>> > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
>>> > > >> that?
>>>
>>> > > >2 points:
>>>
>>> > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
>>> > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>>>
>>> > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>>>
>>> > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
>>> > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
>>> > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>>>
>>> > > So you agree.
>>>
>>> > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
>>> > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
>>> > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>>>
>>> > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had his last name
>>> > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>>>
>>> > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
>>> > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
>>> > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
>>> > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
>>> > the floor.
>>>
>>> > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
>>> > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
>>> > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
>>> > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
>>> > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
>>> > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>>>
>>> Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>>
>>I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
>>Gordon?
>>
>> FWIW I was in
>>> Chen's camp on this one, which rarely happens.  I follow the college
>>> game a lot and have no idea why Ewing was even drafted at all.  I can
>>> see the invite to camp by the Knicks, but doubt he would have made the
>>> team, or any other NBA team at this point.
>>
>>We're all in the same camp basically... for me it's basically the
>>symbolic value of reversing two of the main events that set this
>>franchise's downward spiral in motion... the Weis pick and the Pat Sr.
>>trade. It's an intriguing move to make and a nice gesture to the
>>hardcore fans who have withstood all of the BS since then.
>>
>>If we get something out of Jr. it's gravy. I doubt it too but I'm
>>rooting for the guy though because I do like what he brought to the
>>table at Georgetown. He got his father's love for the game... if not
>>his skill.
>
>He's only got one trait from his father: hustle and play the guts out.
>I guess it'll be fun watching him run up and down the court and give
>110% on every play...
>

Yeah chen it will be a new thing at the garden... I for one would
appreciate it and who knows it might infect others.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:17:58 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@nomail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:08:17 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:05:11 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>><dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>>>
>>>> > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>>>>
>>>> > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
>>>> > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
>>>> > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
>>>> > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
>>>> > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
>>>> > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
>>>> > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
>>>> > > >> >> forward position.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
>>>> > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
>>>> > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
>>>> > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
>>>> > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
>>>> > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
>>>> > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
>>>> > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
>>>> > > >> offensive force.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
>>>> > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
>>>> > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
>>>> > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
>>>> > > >> produce.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
>>>> > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>>>>
>>>> > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
>>>> > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
>>>> > > >> that?
>>>>
>>>> > > >2 points:
>>>>
>>>> > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
>>>> > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>>>>
>>>> > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>>>>
>>>> > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
>>>> > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
>>>> > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>>>>
>>>> > > So you agree.
>>>>
>>>> > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
>>>> > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
>>>> > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>>>>
>>>> > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had his last name
>>>> > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>>>>
>>>> > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
>>>> > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
>>>> > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
>>>> > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
>>>> > the floor.
>>>>
>>>> > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
>>>> > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
>>>> > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
>>>> > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
>>>> > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
>>>> > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>>>>
>>>> Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>>>
>>>I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
>>>Gordon?
>>>
>>> FWIW I was in
>>>> Chen's camp on this one, which rarely happens.  I follow the college
>>>> game a lot and have no idea why Ewing was even drafted at all.  I can
>>>> see the invite to camp by the Knicks, but doubt he would have made the
>>>> team, or any other NBA team at this point.
>>>
>>>We're all in the same camp basically... for me it's basically the
>>>symbolic value of reversing two of the main events that set this
>>>franchise's downward spiral in motion... the Weis pick and the Pat Sr.
>>>trade. It's an intriguing move to make and a nice gesture to the
>>>hardcore fans who have withstood all of the BS since then.
>>>
>>>If we get something out of Jr. it's gravy. I doubt it too but I'm
>>>rooting for the guy though because I do like what he brought to the
>>>table at Georgetown. He got his father's love for the game... if not
>>>his skill.
>>
>>He's only got one trait from his father: hustle and play the guts out.
>>I guess it'll be fun watching him run up and down the court and give
>>110% on every play...
>>
>
>Yeah chen it will be a new thing at the garden... I for one would
>appreciate it and who knows it might infect others.

Doubtful. The Knicks had that player, remember the white guy that
runs up and down, tries to play defense, and rebounds every ball
possible? He sure didn't infect anybody.

Besides, that guy actually has talent (rebounding), Ewing Jr. will
just run up and down like a deer lost in the headlight.

On Sep 3, 10:05 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
> > > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > > >> >> offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown. Not exactly an
> > > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > > >> produce.
>
> > > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > > >> that?
>
> > > > >2 points:
>
> > > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > > So you agree.
>
> > > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
> > > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> > > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > > the floor.
>
> > > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> > > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> > > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> > > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
> > > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
> > > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>
> > Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>
> I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
> Gordon?

No, I got it confused with Daniel Ewing. I saw a news blurb that says
Ewing signs with Russian team and thought it was Pat Jr.

I wouldn't have confused Ben Gordon. Though Gordon should sign over
there where he can play SG and guard SG that aren't named, Kobe,
Iguodala etc.

On Sep 4, 11:08 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 10:05 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > > > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> > > > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > > > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes.a game
> > > > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > > > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > > > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > > > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactlyan
> > > > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > > > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fivesfor
> > > > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > > > >> produce.
>
> > > > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > > > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > > > >> that?
>
> > > > > >2 points:
>
> > > > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > > > So you agree.
>
> > > > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > > > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had his last name
> > > > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > > > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > > > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> > > > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > > > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > > > the floor.
>
> > > > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> > > > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> > > > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> > > > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the benchso
> > > > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up..
> > > > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>
> > > Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>
> > I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
> > Gordon?
>
> No, I got it confused with Daniel Ewing.  I saw a news blurb that says
> Ewing signs with Russian team and thought it was Pat Jr.

Ahhh, that makes sense.

>
> I wouldn't have confused Ben Gordon.

Just joshin' ya Rizzo. That was the rumor out yesterday, anyway.
Apparently threatening to play over there is his only leverage with
the Bulls right now...

On Sep 4, 12:08 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 11:08 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 10:05 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > > > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > > > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > > > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > > > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > > > > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > > > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
> > > > > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > > > > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > > > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > > > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > > > > >> >> offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > > > > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > > > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > > > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > > > > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > > > > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > > > > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > > > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > > > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > > > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > > > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown. Not exactly an
> > > > > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > > > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > > > > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > > > > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > > > > >> produce.
>
> > > > > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > > > > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > > > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > > > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > > > > >> that?
>
> > > > > > >2 points:
>
> > > > > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > > > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > > > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > > > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > > > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > > > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > > > > So you agree.
>
> > > > > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > > > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > > > > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > > > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
> > > > > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > > > > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > > > > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> > > > > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > > > > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > > > > the floor.
>
> > > > > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> > > > > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> > > > > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> > > > > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
> > > > > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
> > > > > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>
> > > > Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>
> > > I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
> > > Gordon?
>
> > No, I got it confused with Daniel Ewing. I saw a news blurb that says
> > Ewing signs with Russian team and thought it was Pat Jr.
>
> Ahhh, that makes sense.
>
>
>
> > I wouldn't have confused Ben Gordon.
>
> Just joshin' ya Rizzo. That was the rumor out yesterday, anyway.
> Apparently threatening to play over there is his only leverage with
> the Bulls right now...

Shoot, if I were Gordon I would be looking at Greece and Italy right
now and try to get Josh Childress money to play in a beautiful town.
At least he may be able to defend someone over there (maybe)...

Rizzo

On Sep 4, 5:35 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 12:08 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 11:08 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 3, 10:05 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > > > > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > > > > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > > > > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > > > > > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> > > > > > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > > > > > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > > > > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > > > > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > > > > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > > > > > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > > > > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > > > > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > > > > > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > > > > > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > > > > > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > > > > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > > > > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > > > > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > > > > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Not exactly an
> > > > > > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > > > > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunatelythis isn't
> > > > > > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > > > > > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > > > > > >> produce.
>
> > > > > > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > > > > > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > > > > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > > > > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > > > > > >> that?
>
> > > > > > > >2 points:
>
> > > > > > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > > > > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > > > > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > > > > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > > > > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > > > > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > > > > > So you agree.
>
> > > > > > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > > > > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > > > > > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > > > > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, had hislast name
> > > > > > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > > > > > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > > > > > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-townthis
> > > > > > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > > > > > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > > > > > the floor.
>
> > > > > > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> > > > > > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> > > > > > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> > > > > > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
> > > > > > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
> > > > > > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>
> > > > > Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>
> > > > I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
> > > > Gordon?
>
> > > No, I got it confused with Daniel Ewing.  I saw a news blurb that says
> > > Ewing signs with Russian team and thought it was Pat Jr.
>
> > Ahhh, that makes sense.
>
> > > I wouldn't have confused Ben Gordon.
>
> > Just joshin' ya Rizzo. That was the rumor out yesterday, anyway.
> > Apparently threatening to play over there is his only leverage with
> > the Bulls right now...
>
> Shoot, if I were Gordon I would be looking at Greece and Italy right
> now and try to get Josh Childress money to play in a beautiful town.
> At least he may be able to defend someone over there (maybe)...
>
> Rizzo

Yah. He may go... but what Da Bulls are offering him (6yrs 59mil) imo
is a good deal for him.

On Sep 4, 2:52 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 5:35 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 12:08 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 4, 11:08 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 3, 10:05 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > > > > > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > > > > > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > > > > > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait. For a SF he rebounds well, plays good D, and
> > > > > > > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense. He has
> > > > > > > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to be an effective SF,
> > > > > > > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > > > > > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > > > > > > >> >> offense and good defense. At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > > > > > > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart out on the floor and
> > > > > > > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things. Like Balkman a
> > > > > > > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > > > > > > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > > > > > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > > > > > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown. Not exactly an
> > > > > > > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > > > > > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > > > > > > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > > > > > > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > > > > > > >> produce.
>
> > > > > > > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > > > > > > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > > > > > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > > > > > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > > > > > > >> that?
>
> > > > > > > > >2 points:
>
> > > > > > > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > > > > > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > > > > > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > > > > > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > > > > > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > > > > > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > > > > > > So you agree.
>
> > > > > > > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > > > > > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy, iirc. So he
> > > > > > > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > > > > > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks. Like I said, had his last name
> > > > > > > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > > > > > > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > > > > > > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> > > > > > > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > > > > > > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > > > > > > the floor.
>
> > > > > > > I think he'll be overmatched. His shot suuuuucks and he still quite
> > > > > > > hasn't figured out the whole coordination thing but I wouldn't bet
> > > > > > > against him either. I read a piece yesterday that talked about how
> > > > > > > D'Antoni likes to keep hustle guys (scrubs) at the end of the bench so
> > > > > > > he can yank the starters when they're slacking off and show them up.
> > > > > > > Ewing may make the team for that role.
>
> > > > > > Guess it's all moot now that he signed in Europe.
>
> > > > > I see nothing about this. Did you perhaps get him confused with Ben
> > > > > Gordon?
>
> > > > No, I got it confused with Daniel Ewing. I saw a news blurb that says
> > > > Ewing signs with Russian team and thought it was Pat Jr.
>
> > > Ahhh, that makes sense.
>
> > > > I wouldn't have confused Ben Gordon.
>
> > > Just joshin' ya Rizzo. That was the rumor out yesterday, anyway.
> > > Apparently threatening to play over there is his only leverage with
> > > the Bulls right now...
>
> > Shoot, if I were Gordon I would be looking at Greece and Italy right
> > now and try to get Josh Childress money to play in a beautiful town.
> > At least he may be able to defend someone over there (maybe)...
>
> > Rizzo
>
> Yah. He may go... but what Da Bulls are offering him (6yrs 59mil) imo
> is a good deal for him.

HELL YEAH....Are they really that stupid that they are offering him
6/59??? Shoot I thought they were low-balling him!!! WTF does he
want to get? Does he think he should be in the category of Kobe?

Rizzo

On Sep 4, 6:01 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2:52 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 4, 5:35 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 4, 12:08 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 4, 11:08 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sep 3, 10:05 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 3, 11:18 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 1, 5:08 am, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 12:24 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > > > > <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >On Aug 31, 12:05 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
> > > > > > > > > >> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> >On Aug 29, 7:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> Unfortunately it isn't that dominating center that guarantees second
> > > > > > > > > >> >> round in the playoffs year after year, but we got his "junior" - a
> > > > > > > > > >> >> trade with the Rockets.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >> He is said to be like his father defensively: for one he hustles like
> > > > > > > > > >> >> crazy, a Ewing-trait.  For a SF he rebounds well,plays good D, and
> > > > > > > > > >> >> can even block some shots if the opponent is not careful.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >> However, unfortunately he didn't inherit his father's offense.  He has
> > > > > > > > > >> >> trouble sinking outside shots with regularity to bean effective SF,
> > > > > > > > > >> >> and his inside game is undone by his relatively small size at the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> forward position.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >> So... at best he's going to be a sixth-man type of player with avg.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> offense and good defense.  At worst he's your 10 minutes. a game
> > > > > > > > > >> >> defensive replacement that gives other forwards a breather.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >I had no idea we even had the rights to Weis still.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >I like Ewing Jr.'s game a lot. He pours his heart outon the floor and
> > > > > > > > > >> >is a very smart player who does all the little things.. Like Balkman a
> > > > > > > > > >> >bit... but smarter. I'm not sure if he has an NBA career ahead of him
> > > > > > > > > >> >or not though. He has to date surprised with his ability at every
> > > > > > > > > >> >level though and he can jump out of the gym.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >Either way, it's a great PR move and has terrific karmic implications.
> > > > > > > > > >> >Ewing for Weis. Two curses removed in one fell swoop.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> >Is Walsh a divinin' man.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. avg. 6 ppg for team Georgetown.  Notexactly an
> > > > > > > > > >> offensive force.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. plays avg. defense because he has shabby footwork.
> > > > > > > > > >> Which MAY be able to improve on.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Fact: Ewing Jr. does play his heart out, but unfortunately this isn't
> > > > > > > > > >> community basketball pick-up game when we give them high-fives for
> > > > > > > > > >> trying, to survive in the NBA you actually needs to have talent and
> > > > > > > > > >> produce.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Don't get me wrong, Ewing was my favor Knick, but his son seems to be
> > > > > > > > > >> living off his father's legacy.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> To look on it on the flip side: there IS a reason why the Rocket
> > > > > > > > > >> rather have "stiff no-good useless Weis" over Ewing Jr, ever consider
> > > > > > > > > >> that?
>
> > > > > > > > > >2 points:
>
> > > > > > > > > >1) Your grasp of karmic principles is very weak and that's why you
> > > > > > > > > >won't be invited to any BPLs should we choose to have them.
>
> > > > > > > > > Translation: "Damn, I can't argue with him on basketball knowledge"
>
> > > > > > > > > >2) I have no idea what points that I made are counterpoint to your
> > > > > > > > > >"facts". I love the way he plays but I'm not even sure that it
> > > > > > > > > >translates to an NBA game as a 15th man.
>
> > > > > > > > > So you agree.
>
> > > > > > > > > >That said, he wasn't supposed to make his college team either. The
> > > > > > > > > >invite was considered a courtesy to his father's legacy,iirc. So he
> > > > > > > > > >gets a shot to make this team...
>
> > > > > > > > > And now he gets a shot at the Knicks.  Like I said, hadhis last name
> > > > > > > > > not been "Ewing" he would be bagging gloceries at your local Pathmark
>
> > > > > > > > The point being in college he got the courtesy call... but then
> > > > > > > > absolutely made the most of it. He wasn't the 6th man on G-town this
> > > > > > > > year for his namesake. His rebounding, guile, and court vision often
> > > > > > > > led to stops and easy buckets. That team was pretty good with him on
> > > > > > > > the floor.