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By TOM CANAVAN

ALBANY, N.Y. - Kevin Boss didn't post big numbers as a rookie with the
New York Giants. The tight end just made big plays after taking over
for an injured Jeremy Shockey late in the season.

Forgotten already?

There was the 45-yard catch and run in the Super Bowl that set up the
Giants' first touchdown. Maybe even more important was his 19-yard
reception late in the second-quarter against Dallas in the NFC
semifinal that helped tie the game just before halftime.

Both were huge in the Giants' run to the NFL championship.

Boss enters his second season facing a lot more pressure in the wake
of the Giants' decision to trade the disgruntled Shockey to New
Orleans days before the start of training camp.

It thrust Boss into a starting role with the burden of replacing a
four-time Pro Bowler.

"I am sure there is an expectation," Boss said Saturday before the
Giants held their last full practice before breaking camp. "The only
thing we can do is go out and play to our highest ability and play to
what we are capable of. I think we are all excited for this
opportunity to prove we can get it done."

While there are five tight ends in camp, there is no doubt Boss is No.
1. Mike Matthews, Darcy Johnson, Eric Butler and Jerome Collins are
working for the backup spots.

Unlike Shockey, who was brash and outspoken, Boss is humble and choses
words carefully.

"I am not officially the starter for the season, but I feel confident
that I can be the starter and I am excited for the opportunity," Boss
said.

There is no doubt Boss can catch the ball. Throughout training camp,
he has worked with quarterback Eli Manning and the first unit and
caught almost everything in his direction.

During a recent practice, Boss ran a seam pattern and made a leaping
catch downfield before falling to the ground.

"Jeremy Who?" a fan yelled from the stands at the University at
Albany.

Funny? Yes. But it won't mean much unless Boss can do that
consistently, as Shockey did.

Before breaking his leg in December and missing the rest of the
season, Shockey had 57 catches for 619 yards and three touchdowns.

Almost overlooked was Shockey's blocking ability. In the 14
regular-season games in which he was in the lineup, the Giants
averaged 4.4 yards per carry. In four postseason games when Boss
started, the average slipped to 3.5.

In the preseason opener against the Lions, Boss and his fellow tight
ends were adequate at best with their blocking assignments.

"We are not where we need to be yet," offensive coordinator Kevin
Gilbride said. "There have been flashes, and I think you'll see some
moments when you'll say, "OK, good he's got it," but we're not as
consistent as we need to be. Our guys have certain things that they
each can do well, but we may not have the one guy who can do it all.

"Kevin Boss is going to be a good receiver; he's going to make a lot
of catches. I think he is going to be the first one to tell you that
he needs to continue to work on his blocking," Gilbride added.

The 24-year-old Boss has the athleticism to be an outstanding tight
end. At 6-foot-6, he is a big target. He is also mobile. He played
basketball and football at Western Oregon.

"Kevin has a big role to fill and he's still got a lot to learn in
becoming a big playmaker for us," Manning said. "Last year, when we
lost Shockey, we did some more four-wide receiver stuff when we got
into passing downs. We put Steve Smith in the tight end position and
let him do some of the things that we tried to do with Shockey. We'll
see how we manage but, hopefully a whole lot won't change and we'll
still use a lot of tight end formations. Kevin will have to step up."

The one thing working in Boss' favor is he believes he can do the job.

"I played under as much pressure as I can during that Super Bowl,"
Boss said. "Right now I feel I have a lot of confidence and I want to
go out and prove that I can play."

It's stupid to even ask that question. The Giants will have a
different set of offensive plays, and probably less plays involving
TEs now that Shockey's gone. With Shockey the Giants rarely gone to
him, and will anybody think with Boss somehow the Giants will throw to
him more?

Boss will be use as a decoy most of the time. Sure he will catch some
20+ yard balls only because the D has send all of their men to stop
Burress, Toomer, and S. Smith.



On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:05:58 -0400, peeko@internet.com wrote:

>http://sports.excite.com/news/08162008/v0046.html
>
>
>By TOM CANAVAN
>
>ALBANY, N.Y. - Kevin Boss didn't post big numbers as a rookie with the
>New York Giants. The tight end just made big plays after taking over
>for an injured Jeremy Shockey late in the season.
>
>Forgotten already?
>
>There was the 45-yard catch and run in the Super Bowl that set up the
>Giants' first touchdown. Maybe even more important was his 19-yard
>reception late in the second-quarter against Dallas in the NFC
>semifinal that helped tie the game just before halftime.
>
>Both were huge in the Giants' run to the NFL championship.
>
>Boss enters his second season facing a lot more pressure in the wake
>of the Giants' decision to trade the disgruntled Shockey to New
>Orleans days before the start of training camp.
>
>It thrust Boss into a starting role with the burden of replacing a
>four-time Pro Bowler.
>
>"I am sure there is an expectation," Boss said Saturday before the
>Giants held their last full practice before breaking camp. "The only
>thing we can do is go out and play to our highest ability and play to
>what we are capable of. I think we are all excited for this
>opportunity to prove we can get it done."
>
>While there are five tight ends in camp, there is no doubt Boss is No.
>1. Mike Matthews, Darcy Johnson, Eric Butler and Jerome Collins are
>working for the backup spots.
>
>Unlike Shockey, who was brash and outspoken, Boss is humble and choses
>words carefully.
>
>"I am not officially the starter for the season, but I feel confident
>that I can be the starter and I am excited for the opportunity," Boss
>said.
>
>There is no doubt Boss can catch the ball. Throughout training camp,
>he has worked with quarterback Eli Manning and the first unit and
>caught almost everything in his direction.
>
>During a recent practice, Boss ran a seam pattern and made a leaping
>catch downfield before falling to the ground.
>
>"Jeremy Who?" a fan yelled from the stands at the University at
>Albany.
>
>Funny? Yes. But it won't mean much unless Boss can do that
>consistently, as Shockey did.
>
>Before breaking his leg in December and missing the rest of the
>season, Shockey had 57 catches for 619 yards and three touchdowns.
>
>Almost overlooked was Shockey's blocking ability. In the 14
>regular-season games in which he was in the lineup, the Giants
>averaged 4.4 yards per carry. In four postseason games when Boss
>started, the average slipped to 3.5.
>
>In the preseason opener against the Lions, Boss and his fellow tight
>ends were adequate at best with their blocking assignments.
>
>"We are not where we need to be yet," offensive coordinator Kevin
>Gilbride said. "There have been flashes, and I think you'll see some
>moments when you'll say, "OK, good he's got it," but we're not as
>consistent as we need to be. Our guys have certain things that they
>each can do well, but we may not have the one guy who can do it all.
>
>"Kevin Boss is going to be a good receiver; he's going to make a lot
>of catches. I think he is going to be the first one to tell you that
>he needs to continue to work on his blocking," Gilbride added.
>
>The 24-year-old Boss has the athleticism to be an outstanding tight
>end. At 6-foot-6, he is a big target. He is also mobile. He played
>basketball and football at Western Oregon.
>
>"Kevin has a big role to fill and he's still got a lot to learn in
>becoming a big playmaker for us," Manning said. "Last year, when we
>lost Shockey, we did some more four-wide receiver stuff when we got
>into passing downs. We put Steve Smith in the tight end position and
>let him do some of the things that we tried to do with Shockey. We'll
>see how we manage but, hopefully a whole lot won't change and we'll
>still use a lot of tight end formations. Kevin will have to step up."
>
>The one thing working in Boss' favor is he believes he can do the job.
>
>"I played under as much pressure as I can during that Super Bowl,"
>Boss said. "Right now I feel I have a lot of confidence and I want to
>go out and prove that I can play."
>

Boss will do just fine. More importantly, when told to block, he'll block
without any backtalk.

My crystal ball shows some critical blocks by Kevin resulting in huge gains by
Plax and Bradshaw.


<peeko@internet.com> wrote in message
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> http://sports.excite.com/news/08162008/v0046.html
>
>
> By TOM CANAVAN
>
> ALBANY, N.Y. - Kevin Boss didn't post big numbers as a rookie with the
> New York Giants. The tight end just made big plays after taking over
> for an injured Jeremy Shockey late in the season.

"lubow" <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote in message
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> Boss will do just fine. More importantly, when told to block, he'll block
> without any backtalk.
>
And he will probably miss the block.

> My crystal ball shows some critical blocks by Kevin resulting in huge
> gains by Plax and Bradshaw.
>
That's quite a prediction since he has shown he is a below average blocker.
He will have to work his ass off to become as good a blocker as Shockey and
even then he may not ever become a good blocking TE. I think we will see
more of Mathews when we need to get the running game going.
Boss I'm sure will continue to make some nice catches and big plays because
the defense is not going to be worried about covering him with anything more
than an LB.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:49:12 -0400, "Tom W" <tlmm56@ptd.net> wrote:

>
>"lubow" <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote in message
>news:48a7c9b6$0$2215$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> Boss will do just fine. More importantly, when told to block, he'll block
>> without any backtalk.
>>
> And he will probably miss the block.
>
>> My crystal ball shows some critical blocks by Kevin resulting in huge
>> gains by Plax and Bradshaw.
>>
> That's quite a prediction since he has shown he is a below average blocker.
>He will have to work his ass off to become as good a blocker as Shockey and
>even then he may not ever become a good blocking TE. I think we will see
>more of Mathews when we need to get the running game going.
> Boss I'm sure will continue to make some nice catches and big plays because
>the defense is not going to be worried about covering him with anything more
>than an LB.
>

Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
how he develops this season.

Hats N Bats

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On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:

>
> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
> how he develops this season.
>


When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)

Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>
>>
>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>> how he develops this season.
>>
>
>
>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>
>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...


Yeah. Give the guy a chance to prove himself. He is rather tall,
though, so it may be more difficult for him to get leverage.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>
>>
>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>> how he develops this season.
>>
>
>
>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>
>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...

First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push back.
Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic on
the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go tell the
Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't bitch about TE
not blocking.

On Aug 17, 9:43 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> First off it's blocking.  Plant your feet, place your arms, push back.

Damn ... it is so simple ...

> Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
> Shockey had.  Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic on
> the art of blocking by the TE.  If you want a pure blocker go tell the
> Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't bitch about TE
> not blocking

You should really be coaching ... your knowledge of football is
amazing ...

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:43:20 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>>> how he develops this season.
>>>
>>
>>
>>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>>
>>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...
>
>First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push back.
>Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic on
>the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go tell the
>Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't bitch about TE
>not blocking.
>

I don't think the Giant's would have traded Shockey without seeing
similar potential in Boss, and he played well in post season. Boss
has good hands and is appears to be serious about becoming a complete
player, so he'll learn to block.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>
>>
>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>> how he develops this season.
>>
>
>
>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>
>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...

Exactly. I think by the end of this year it'll be clear what Boss will
be capable of.

Hats N Bats

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:49:12 -0400, "Tom W" <tlmm56@ptd.net> wrote:

>
>"lubow" <lubow@lubowindustries.com> wrote in message
>news:48a7c9b6$0$2215$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> Boss will do just fine. More importantly, when told to block, he'll block
>> without any backtalk.
>>
> And he will probably miss the block.
>
>> My crystal ball shows some critical blocks by Kevin resulting in huge
>> gains by Plax and Bradshaw.
>>
> That's quite a prediction since he has shown he is a below average blocker.
>He will have to work his ass off to become as good a blocker as Shockey and
>even then he may not ever become a good blocking TE. I think we will see
>more of Mathews when we need to get the running game going.

Lets not forget that was th case with Shockey around, too.

******************************************************************
Kevin McClave

"To justify himself, each relies on
the other's crime." ~Albert Camus
******************************************************************

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:13:06 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 17, 9:43 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> First off it's blocking.  Plant your feet, place your arms, push back.
>
>Damn ... it is so simple ...
>
>> Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>> Shockey had.  Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic on
>> the art of blocking by the TE.  If you want a pure blocker go tell the
>> Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't bitch about TE
>> not blocking
>
>You should really be coaching ... your knowledge of football is
>amazing ...

Thanks, I will weed out the sacrasm and take you seriously.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:16:51 -0400, peeko@internet.com wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:43:20 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>>>> how he develops this season.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>>>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>>>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>>>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>>>
>>>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>>>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>>>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...
>>
>>First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push back.
>>Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>>Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic on
>>the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go tell the
>>Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't bitch about TE
>>not blocking.
>>
>
>I don't think the Giant's would have traded Shockey without seeing
>similar potential in Boss, and he played well in post season. Boss
>has good hands and is appears to be serious about becoming a complete
>player, so he'll learn to block.

Or he has already learned to block. I don't remember Eli getting
knock around like a doll ever since Shockey went down. Boss must be
doing something right over at the TE position.

Once again the "regs" in this group seems to over-analyze things just
to prove how "knowledgable" they are.

<Hats N Bats> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>>> how he develops this season.
>>>
>>
>>
>>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>>
>>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...
>
> Exactly. I think by the end of this year it'll be clear what Boss will
> be capable of.
>
> Hats N Bats
>
Plus, we've got an extra second round pick in 2009 so they'll be able to
draft another tight end if one is needed.

On Aug 18, 11:24 am, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
 
>
> Or he has already learned to block.  I don't remember Eli getting
> knock around like a doll ever since Shockey went down.  

So pass blocking is the most important blocking a TE does ... Learn
something every day ...
Does the technique you propose for blocking work well for both pass
blocking and run blocking ??

Boss must be
> doing something right over at the TE position.
>
> Once again the "regs" in this group seems to over-analyze things just
> to prove how "knowledgable" they are.

OTOH ... there are some who open their mouths to show how ignorant
they are ...

No over analyzing ... One needs only to see the first few plays of the
first exhibition game ... watch Boss ... and see where he needs to
work on his blocking ... My 12 year old grandson ... fresh out of
Chris Snee's camp saw that ... and told me what he had just learned
and Boss forgot to do ... Tom brought up a good point that Boss's
height works against him in being able to block well ... has to
concentrate on technique more ...

"Fritz" <tgifritz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> <Hats N Bats> wrote in message
> news:npnia4l07opprf4j4pqgs0bq8d3av6k9s0@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>>>> how he develops this season.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>>>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>>>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>>>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>>>
>>>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>>>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>>>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...
>>
>> Exactly. I think by the end of this year it'll be clear what Boss will
>> be capable of.
>>
>> Hats N Bats
>>
> Plus, we've got an extra second round pick in 2009 so they'll be able to
> draft another tight end if one is needed.
>

How about picking up a vet as a safety net from the waiver wire? The TE
group we have now is all greenies.
Bad Blocking aside Boss has been virtually invisible this preseason, kinda
strange considering all the other starting guys are out.
Lets just hope its because they simply haven't been calling his number and
its not because he can't get open.
Shockey busted out of the gate like a madman his 1st preseason and went on
to win rookie of the year, i'm just hoping Boss gives us 40-50 catches and
doesn't let DE's and LB's ruin our running game.

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:13:30 -0400, "IommiRULES" <spamthis@bird.net>
wrote:

>
>"Fritz" <tgifritz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:eHgqk.18758$jI5.17777@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> <Hats N Bats> wrote in message
>> news:npnia4l07opprf4j4pqgs0bq8d3av6k9s0@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:04:22 -0700 (PDT), number6 <snumber6@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Aug 17, 4:21 pm, Hats N Bats wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. He needs to be able to block at an acceptable level. Let's see
>>>>> how he develops this season.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>When Shockey arrived here ... he didn't know the meaning of block ...
>>>>and started due to his pass receiving ... but to his credit ... he
>>>>worked hard on learning and became quite a good blocker (of course to
>>>>his debit ... still wanted only to run patterns ...)
>>>>
>>>>Boss is similar ... nowhere as good a receiver as Shockey was his
>>>>first year ... but strong there and needing to learn how to block ...
>>>>and I feel he'll work hard to become a complete TE ...
>>>
>>> Exactly. I think by the end of this year it'll be clear what Boss will
>>> be capable of.
>>>
>>> Hats N Bats
>>>
>> Plus, we've got an extra second round pick in 2009 so they'll be able to
>> draft another tight end if one is needed.
>>
>
>How about picking up a vet as a safety net from the waiver wire? The TE
>group we have now is all greenies.

I don't know, Boss seems to have a tough personality. He reminds me
of Eli Manning. No Boss won't trash talk, but he seems confident
everytime he's out on the field. I would give him at least 2 years
before writing him off.

And I agree, no reason to spend that high a pick on TE unless it's
someone of Shockey's caliber.

>Bad Blocking aside Boss has been virtually invisible this preseason, kinda
>strange considering all the other starting guys are out.

Again this group is talking as if Boss is leaking sacks all game long.
If that's the case how come the Giants did well in the playoffs with
him last season? I guess Cowboys, Packs, and Patriots should read
this NG more often, obviously we know more about Boss' weaknesses then
they have.

>Lets just hope its because they simply haven't been calling his number and
>its not because he can't get open.

I am not surprise the Giants are quiet on Boss. The Giants already
barely used Shockey, you think they are going to feature Boss? Like I
said Boss will be a decoy at best, 3rd option on any given pass route
at pass.

>Shockey busted out of the gate like a madman his 1st preseason and went on
>to win rookie of the year, i'm just hoping Boss gives us 40-50 catches and
>doesn't let DE's and LB's ruin our running game.

Ouch, 40-50 catches? I predict 32.

>
> Again this group is talking as if Boss is leaking sacks all game long.
> If that's the case how come the Giants did well in the playoffs with
> him last season? I guess Cowboys, Packs, and Patriots should read
> this NG more often, obviously we know more about Boss' weaknesses then
> they have.
>

Well said. Boss will do just fine sans the psycho dramas.

Doctor Chen wrote:

>>> First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push
>>> back.

>> Damn ... it is so simple ...

>>> Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>>> Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic
>>> on the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go
>>> tell the Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't
>>> bitch about TE not blocking

>> You should really be coaching ... your knowledge of football is
>> amazing ...

> Thanks, I will weed out the sacrasm and take you seriously.

That makes you 0 for 2.

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:24:32 -0400, "Brian K. O'Neill"
<a2ys3s902@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>Doctor Chen wrote:
>
>>>> First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push
>>>> back.
>
>>> Damn ... it is so simple ...
>
>>>> Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>>>> Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic
>>>> on the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go
>>>> tell the Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't
>>>> bitch about TE not blocking
>
>>> You should really be coaching ... your knowledge of football is
>>> amazing ...
>
>> Thanks, I will weed out the sacrasm and take you seriously.
>
>That makes you 0 for 2.
>

Coming from you? Now I know I'm hitting 2 for 2.

Doctor Chen wrote:

>>>>> First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push
>>>>> back.

>>>> Damn ... it is so simple ...

>>>>> Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>>>>> Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic
>>>>> on the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go
>>>>> tell the Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't
>>>>> bitch about TE not blocking

>>>> You should really be coaching ... your knowledge of football is
>>>> amazing ...

>>> Thanks, I will weed out the sacrasm and take you seriously.

>> That makes you 0 for 2.

> Coming from you? Now I know I'm hitting 2 for 2.

Wow, the infamous 'I know you are but what am I' defense.

I'd offer a staw poll of newsgroup regs but since so many have plonked you,
it wouldn't be a fair fight.

"Brian K. O'Neill" <a2ys3s902@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Fp6dnR3T_fDLNyzVnZ2dnUVZ_o_inZ2d@comcast.com...
> Doctor Chen wrote:
>
>>>>>> First off it's blocking. Plant your feet, place your arms, push
>>>>>> back.
>
>>>>> Damn ... it is so simple ...
>
>>>>>> Unless Boss is a wimp and hits the weights he'll improve, the way
>>>>>> Shockey had. Once again I don't know why some fans are so ecstatic
>>>>>> on the art of blocking by the TE. If you want a pure blocker go
>>>>>> tell the Giants to play 6 OL on the front line, otherwise don't
>>>>>> bitch about TE not blocking
>
>>>>> You should really be coaching ... your knowledge of football is
>>>>> amazing ...
>
>>>> Thanks, I will weed out the sacrasm and take you seriously.
>
>>> That makes you 0 for 2.
>
>> Coming from you? Now I know I'm hitting 2 for 2.
>
> Wow, the infamous 'I know you are but what am I' defense.
>
> I'd offer a staw poll of newsgroup regs but since so many have plonked
> you, it wouldn't be a fair fight.
Brian, I'm shocked that you haven't plonked him. You were once the King of
Plonk