Come on, the deserve better guys and gals!

triba_la_raza@yahoo.com wrote:
> Come on, the deserve better guys and gals!

Although I'm only a semi-fan, I subscribed because I was looking for
opinions on how Steve Smith avoided being arrested and charged for
assault. An assault with multiple witnesses, some of it photographic in
nature.

WM

sonny wrote:

>
> As to the question in the subject line; this would be a FAQ for this
> newsgroup and the answer seems to be the Panther fans are all hanging
> out in Web forums. The most popular forum seems to be:
> http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/
>
> I think Usenet is clearly superior to Web forums, but this seems to be
> a minority opinion the past few years.
>
>
> --
> Sonny Finger
> Rocky Mount, NC


This is a shame as we, in the Bucs NG, always enjoy the twice-a-year
banter. :^)

J

I attempted to respond ten days ago, but have been having server
problems. Finally solved the server issues by finding a new one to
use, so......

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008, Wild Monkshood <Wild_Monkshood@windstream.net>
wrote:

>Although I'm only a semi-fan, I subscribed because I was looking for
>opinions on how Steve Smith avoided being arrested and charged for
>assault. An assault with multiple witnesses, some of it photographic in
>nature.

I am not a lawyer.

But it's my opinion that if the person who is assaulted (K. Lucas)
doesn't want to press charges against the person who assaulted him (S.
Smith), then typically no arrest is made. So... I believe Lucas
could have had Smith arrested, but decided it wasn't necessary.

As to the question in the subject line; this would be a FAQ for this
newsgroup and the answer seems to be the Panther fans are all hanging
out in Web forums. The most popular forum seems to be:
http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/

I think Usenet is clearly superior to Web forums, but this seems to be
a minority opinion the past few years.


--
Sonny Finger
Rocky Mount, NC

sonny wrote:
> I attempted to respond ten days ago, but have been having server
> problems. Finally solved the server issues by finding a new one to
> use, so......
>
> On Wed, 06 Aug 2008, Wild Monkshood <Wild_Monkshood@windstream.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Although I'm only a semi-fan, I subscribed because I was looking for
>>opinions on how Steve Smith avoided being arrested and charged for
>>assault. An assault with multiple witnesses, some of it photographic in
>>nature.
>
>
> I am not a lawyer.
>
> But it's my opinion that if the person who is assaulted (K. Lucas)
> doesn't want to press charges against the person who assaulted him (S.
> Smith), then typically no arrest is made. So... I believe Lucas
> could have had Smith arrested, but decided it wasn't necessary.

Doubtful, I would think. This would mean that one could assault someone
and then intimidate them not to press charges. IIRC, prosecution in
assaults are not dependent on the cooperation of the victim,
particularly if there are witnesses. This is why, when the police in NC
are called out to an assault, someone is going downtown if there is
evidence, even if the victim refuses to press charges. This rather
recent law was targeted towards spouses, but I think it could apply
under a variety of circumstances. I hope the fact that celebrity or the
involvement of multimillionaires didn't trump the law.

WM

>
> As to the question in the subject line; this would be a FAQ for this
> newsgroup and the answer seems to be the Panther fans are all hanging
> out in Web forums. The most popular forum seems to be:
> http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/
>
> I think Usenet is clearly superior to Web forums, but this seems to be
> a minority opinion the past few years.
>
>
> --
> Sonny Finger
> Rocky Mount, NC

First, I guessed:
>> But it's my opinion that if the person who is assaulted (K. Lucas)
>> doesn't want to press charges against the person who assaulted him (S.
>> Smith), then typically no arrest is made. So... I believe Lucas
>> could have had Smith arrested, but decided it wasn't necessary.
>
And then Wild Monkshood replied,
> Doubtful, I would think. This would mean that one could assault someone
>and then intimidate them not to press charges. IIRC, prosecution in
>assaults are not dependent on the cooperation of the victim,
>particularly if there are witnesses. This is why, when the police in NC
>are called out to an assault, someone is going downtown if there is
>evidence, even if the victim refuses to press charges. This rather
>recent law was targeted towards spouses, but I think it could apply
>under a variety of circumstances. I hope the fact that celebrity or the
>involvement of multimillionaires didn't trump the law.

Perhaps you supplied the answer when you said: "when the police in NC
are called out to an assault, someone is going downtown if there is
evidence, even if the victim refuses to press charges." I wouldn't
expect Panther's management would call the cops on Steve Smith. Well,
maybe for murder - but not for a fight. Even if a nose was broken.

--
Sonny Finger
Rocky Mount, NC

sonny wrote:
> First, I guessed:
>
>>>But it's my opinion that if the person who is assaulted (K. Lucas)
>>>doesn't want to press charges against the person who assaulted him (S.
>>>Smith), then typically no arrest is made. So... I believe Lucas
>>>could have had Smith arrested, but decided it wasn't necessary.
>>
> And then Wild Monkshood replied,
>
>> Doubtful, I would think. This would mean that one could assault someone
>>and then intimidate them not to press charges. IIRC, prosecution in
>>assaults are not dependent on the cooperation of the victim,
>>particularly if there are witnesses. This is why, when the police in NC
>>are called out to an assault, someone is going downtown if there is
>>evidence, even if the victim refuses to press charges. This rather
>>recent law was targeted towards spouses, but I think it could apply
>>under a variety of circumstances. I hope the fact that celebrity or the
>>involvement of multimillionaires didn't trump the law.
>
>
> Perhaps you supplied the answer when you said: "when the police in NC
> are called out to an assault, someone is going downtown if there is
> evidence, even if the victim refuses to press charges." I wouldn't
> expect Panther's management would call the cops on Steve Smith. Well,
> maybe for murder - but not for a fight. Even if a nose was broken.

If you witness a crime being committed, I think you are obligated to
report it. And, there were various witnesses not associated with the
Panthers organization. Surely the Police couldn't/shouldn't ignore a
crime if they only become aware of during or shortly after its
commission. It's not as if there is any doubt that an assault did take
place. However, I realize I'm not objective. I can't believe that boxing
promoters and boxers aren't arrested after every fight.

WM

>
> --
> Sonny Finger
> Rocky Mount, NC