On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:04:10 -0400, "Hosmerica"
<BigOneComing@IveGotGas.com> wrote:
>"S. Smith" <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote in message
>news:atp69493a5bk6upmhk6no63i5irc08g8is@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT), powrwrap <powrwrap@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 9:27 am, Scott <rational.cognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great game, though. Nice win for the Twins!
>>>
>>>Oh yeah, let's not forget that the Indians pounded the Tigers last
>>>night 9-4, lighting up Verlander (8-11, 4.49 ERA) for 6 runs.
>>
>> Poor Verlander. He started the season really shaky, then seemed
>> to be turning things around....now his last two starts have been
>> pretty terrible. It seems that the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the
>> Tigers is effecting just about every player on the team. I still
>> haven't figured out their problem(s) yet. Leyland? Old age? The
>> bad air quality in Detroit? It's got to be *something*.
>
>
>There's a few things contributing to all that...pitching, hitting and
>managing. There's nothing else left, so it's everything at this point.
>There are only a couple of bright spots on the team.
>
>Galarraga is the only bright spot on the pitching staff.
Yeah, that guy has a good arm and some decent potential.
>Minor isn't doing too bad, but that's only compared to the rest of Detroit's
>pitcher's. Compared to the rest of MLB, he is probably a middle of the pack
>guy - not noticeable.
>
>No relievers to speak of. Zumaya was hurt, hasn't really regained his
>control. Rodney either. That leaves Todd fucking Jones. Though I haven't
>ever liked Jones, he has done the job for the most part this year. Giving
>up that homer to the White Sox was the last straw.
Jones is toast. It's amazing to me that he's lasted this long in the
league. It's even more amazing the number of save he had in the
first half with his atrocious pitching stats.
>Guillen doesn't belong at 3rd...Inge does. Of the 17 errors allowed at 3rd
>base this year, 11 of them are charged to Guillen. Guillen allows too many
>hits down 3rd base line, whereas Inge stopped most of those. Inge's bat
>doesn't compare to anybody on the team though and even Sheffield is an
>upgrade in batting over Inge. :-(
Yes, Guillen doesn't have the range Inge does. Say what you will
about Inge, but he was usually a pretty decent fielder at 3B.
>Renteria needs to go. He's batting .259 with .308 OBP and .337 SLG. He's
>committed 9 of the 12 errors at SS and the only reason he's still there is
>Santiago isn't any better fielding wise, though he is a superior offensive
>player.
>
>Thames is either a HR or an out (so it seems), and doesn't have as much
>range in LF as Joyce. Joyce has better power numbers as Thames, so...why
>Thames is still starting is beyond me.
Because he CAN hit the homers occastionally...that's probably
why Leyland keeps giving him a chance.
>> To top things off, they've got Inge calling pitches as the primary
>> catcher now....and Inge isn't even a true catcher. I noticed in
>> parts of the last couple Tigers games I've seen, that Inge
>> is a terrible catcher and he's often losing balls in the dirt or
>> they're bouncing out of his glove.
>
>Pudge let a few get behind him too, which I didn't think a catcher of his
>status should've let get behind him.
True, although it seemed to be occurring more this season, and it was
becoming obvious Pudge's heart wasn't with the Tigers anymore.
Did he and Leyland have a falling out or something? I thought he
was one of Leyland's golden ones.
>>I think he even said at
>> one point over the last season or two that he didn't want to
>> be a full time catcher.
>
>I believe this to be correct.
Well, Inge DID say he wanted to be a regular contributor. I guess
he should have been careful what he asked for. ;-)
>>He's got to be a little irritated right
>> now with his position on the team. But, at least he gets to
>> be in the lineup regularly now, and he's a better bat than
>> some of the old guys. ;-)
>
>
>Who in the fuck have you been watching? Inge is ranked 16th (BA) on the
>team, 15th if you don't count Pudge's BA.
OK, I could be wrong. It just seems that in several of the Tigers
games I've watched this season, Inge was getting clutch hits or
getting on base more than others. At least that's how it appeared
to me.
I guess he's not a very good bat after all. Bummer. ;-)
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