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Kent Feiler
07-22-2008, 02:52 AM
As far as I know, last year we only had one female ref in the NBA,
Violet Palmer. Is there a story to be told about that, or is it just
lack of candidates?


Regards,


Kent Feiler
www.KentFeiler.com

Terraholm
07-22-2008, 05:59 AM
Kent Feiler wrote:
> As far as I know, last year we only had one female ref in the NBA,
> Violet Palmer.

They added two originally in 1997, the other one, Dee Kantner, was fired in
2002.
Dee, last I heard, is the WNBA's supervisor of officials.

> Is there a story to be told about that, or is it just
> lack of candidates?

The turnover is pretty slow, usually only 1 to 4 new nba refs a year, and
there are a lot of applicants for all of them. . The D league is the
training ground now and all new nba refs have to go that route. If they make
the NBV they still have to work D league games in their rookie year.
There were 4 women refs in the D league last season. Two of them, Penny
Davis and Brenda Pantoja, were in the top 20 brought in to ref the the D
League "showcase" games with Stu Jackson there. Several of those 20 will
likely become NBA refs over the next few years.

The female refs do now have the advantage of wnba jobs besides Divison A
college....top collegiate refs if they get 70 to 80 games a year can make
about as much as an entry level NBA refs, 80 to 90K.


--
Laurel T
Referee Earl Strom sent $100 when fined $50 for 'promoting a player'
after telling a reporter " I have just seen the greatest player alive" (Dr.
J.)
Strom sent along a note saying: "The first fifty dollars is for the fine
and the second fifty dollars is because I'm tellin' ya' he is the
greatest."

Frank Rizzo
07-23-2008, 12:29 AM
On Jul 21, 9:59 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kent Feiler wrote:
> > As far as I know, last year we only had one female ref in the NBA,
> > Violet Palmer.
>
> They added two originally in 1997, the other one, Dee Kantner, was fired in
> 2002.
> Dee, last I heard, is the WNBA's supervisor of officials.
>
> > Is there a story to be told about that, or is it just
> > lack of candidates?
>
> The turnover is pretty slow, usually only 1 to 4 new nba refs a year, and
> there are a lot of applicants for all of them. . The D league is the
> training ground now and all new nba refs have to go that route. If they make
> the NBV they still have to work D league games in their rookie year.
> There were 4 women refs in the D league last season. Two of them, Penny
> Davis and Brenda Pantoja, were in the top 20 brought in to ref the the D
> League "showcase" games with Stu Jackson there. Several of those 20 will
> likely become NBA refs over the next few years.
>
> The female refs do now have the advantage of wnba jobs besides Divison A
> college....top collegiate refs if they get 70 to 80 games a year can make
> about as much as an entry level NBA refs, 80 to 90K.
>
> --
> Laurel T
> Referee Earl Strom sent $100 when fined $50 for 'promoting a player'
> after telling a reporter " I have just seen the greatest player alive" (Dr.
> J.)
> Strom sent along a note saying: "The first fifty dollars is for the fine
> and the second fifty dollars is because I'm tellin' ya' he is the
> greatest."

Violet Palmer is HORRIBLE. I'm sure there are better candidates out
there to be the pioneering woman referee. Love the quote Laurel.
Keep the Earl Strom stuff coming.

Rizzo

Terraholm
07-23-2008, 01:02 AM
Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On Jul 21, 9:59 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Violet Palmer is HORRIBLE.

Pretty much. There are worse refs though.

> I'm sure there are better candidates out
> there to be the pioneering woman referee.

Hard not to call her the pioneer after 11 years...

> Love the quote Laurel.
> Keep the Earl Strom stuff coming.


Laurel T
"Officiating is the only occupation in the world
where the highest accolade is silence."
Earl Strom

sv0f
07-23-2008, 09:11 PM
On Jul 22, 5:02 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
>
> > Love the quote Laurel.
> > Keep the Earl Strom stuff coming.
>
> Laurel T
> "Officiating is the only occupation in the world
> where the highest accolade is silence."
> Earl Strom

Also the appropriate response to John Cage's “4 Minutes and 33 Second
of Silence”...

...though there is his remark that "his favorite form of audience
response occurred when people would shake their fists at him."

Frank Rizzo
07-24-2008, 04:43 AM
On Jul 22, 5:02 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 9:59 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Violet Palmer is HORRIBLE.
>
> Pretty much. There are worse refs though.
>
> > I'm sure there are better candidates out
> > there to be the pioneering woman referee.
>
> Hard not to call her the pioneer after 11 years...
>
Oh absolutely, just wish the pioneer would have been a better choice
than Violet...Oh well.