4 years, $25 million. Not bad for a bench player

"Orwell" <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote in message
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>4 years, $25 million. Not bad for a bench player

was havlichek "a bench player".

On Jul 16, 4:30 pm, Orwell <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote:
> 4 years, $25 million.  Not bad for a bench player

This is one of those deals imho needed to be done right after or he
was gone. It was a forgone conclussion he would get a much better
offer than we could give him....so they needed to find a number he'd
accepot quickly before he saw those zeros from other offers. Good luck
to him hate to see the guy go...I hope they have a plan B.

On Jul 16, 4:54 pm, "Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> "Orwell" <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote in message
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> >4 years, $25 million. Not bad for a bench player
>
> was havlichek "a bench player".

Surely you're not comparing James Posey with John Havlicek,
universally acclaimed as one of the greatest players of all time.
Heck, just a couple of years ago Slam! magazine ranked Hondo the 15th
best player of all time. And although he (and Frank Ramsey) are
famous "Sixth Men," half way through his career Hondo became a starter
where he remained the rest of his career.

Thanks to Posey for being a Celtic - he'll play his role in New Orleans,
but I don't feel he has the catalyst/chemistry around him there to get
another ring in the next few years.

It DOES put the ball in Danny's court - could go one of 3-4 ways - it
didn't seem like Danny / Celtics put up a REAL fight to keep him, so
there's probably a "rabbit" we'll see in the next few Months.

Maybe a poker faced white boy from French Lick, Indiana < smile, kidding
> !

On Jul 17, 7:14 am, Smithee <ssmith2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 4:54 pm, "Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Orwell" <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote in message
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> >news:5530681a-e1a5-49fd-85c1-f1053c182589@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com....
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> > >4 years, $25 million.  Not bad for a bench player
>
> > was havlichek "a bench player".
>
> Surely you're not comparing James Posey with John Havlicek,
> universally acclaimed as one of the greatest players of all time.
> Heck, just a couple of years ago Slam! magazine ranked Hondo the 15th
> best player of all time.  And although he (and Frank Ramsey) are
> famous "Sixth Men," half way through his career Hondo became a starter
> where he remained the rest of his career.

I was going to say, how does Hondo fit into this thread at all,
Raymond? Am I missing something? Posey isn't THAT good.

"Orwell" <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote in message
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>4 years, $25 million. Not bad for a bench player

I was *very* surprised by his contract. I think he played a great role and
all, but that is some serious overpayment. Two years from now they're going
to be wondering how to dump his contract and won't be able to. It's not
like he's 24 years old either. Wow.

"Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Orwell" <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote in message
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>>4 years, $25 million. Not bad for a bench player
>
> was havlichek "a bench player".

Horrible comparison.... just horrible.

"CalC" <calcarpenter1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 4:30 pm, Orwell <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote:
> 4 years, $25 million. Not bad for a bench player

This is one of those deals imho needed to be done right after or he
was gone. It was a forgone conclussion he would get a much better
offer than we could give him....so they needed to find a number he'd
accepot quickly before he saw those zeros from other offers. Good luck
to him hate to see the guy go...I hope they have a plan B.

********************************

Plan B will be to see how the rookies play and some more dabbling in free
agency. Role players are not hard to find.

On Jul 19, 10:35 am, "Skeptic" <bcs0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Orwell" <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5530681a-e1a5-49fd-85c1-f1053c182589@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >4 years, $25 million.  Not bad for a bench player
>
> I was *very* surprised by his contract.  I think he played a great roleand
> all, but that is some serious overpayment.  Two years from now they're going
> to be wondering how to dump his contract and won't be able to.  It's not
> like he's 24 years old either.  Wow.

In a way, though, kudos to his agent. The Celts offered three and
wouldn't go higher. I'm sure the Hornets went the same way, but he
went to the Hornets and said, "You've got until 5pm tonight. If you
stick with 3 years, James is re-signing with the Celtics. If you go
to 4 years, he'll sign." And they paniced and went the extra year.

In article <91f6e00e-1437-4abe-9286-5d2c0614e38e@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Orwell <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote:
>On Jul 19, 10:35 am, "Skeptic" <bcs0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Orwell" <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5530681a-e1a5-49fd-85c1-f1053c182589@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >4 years, $25 million.  Not bad for a bench player
>>
>> I was *very* surprised by his contract.  I think he played a great role and
>> all, but that is some serious overpayment.  Two years from now they're going
>> to be wondering how to dump his contract and won't be able to.  It's not
>> like he's 24 years old either.  Wow.
>
>In a way, though, kudos to his agent. The Celts offered three and
>wouldn't go higher. I'm sure the Hornets went the same way, but he
>went to the Hornets and said, "You've got until 5pm tonight. If you
>stick with 3 years, James is re-signing with the Celtics. If you go
>to 4 years, he'll sign." And they paniced and went the extra year.

His agent did an awesome job. He's on a team with a good chance to win
a championship during his contract, he got a good chunk of money, his
new team didn't do something that'll cause serious cap problems for them
somewhere down the line... it was nice work.

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