www.nydailynews.com

BY MITCH LAWRENCE
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.

The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
half of the mid-level exception.

Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."

The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
become free agents.

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
<dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:

>www.nydailynews.com
>
>BY MITCH LAWRENCE
>DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
>
>As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
>point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.
>
>The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
>half of the mid-level exception.
>
>Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
>D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."
>
>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>become free agents.
>

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!

"Syfo-Dyas" <Syfo-Dyas@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3m6k641d93tdnbqm9gelo39o1n132c1928@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
> <dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>www.nydailynews.com
>>
>>BY MITCH LAWRENCE
>>DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
>>
>>As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
>>point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.
>>
>>The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
>>half of the mid-level exception.
>>
>>Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
>>D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."
>>
>>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>>five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>>beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>>become free agents.
>>
>
> Unbelievable!!!!!!!!

If they have a shot at signing Udrih, they should be working on it. Do they
think LeBron wants to go from one team where he has no help to another where
he will have no help? Duhon is nothing but a stop gap and a bad one at that.
I'd rather they reup with Nate. We have our own problems and I am tired of
this team helping the Bulss get rid of their marginal players.

Glenn Greenstein wrote:
> "Syfo-Dyas" <Syfo-Dyas@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3m6k641d93tdnbqm9gelo39o1n132c1928@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>> <dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> www.nydailynews.com
>>>
>>> BY MITCH LAWRENCE
>>> DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
>>>
>>> As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
>>> point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.
>>>
>>> The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
>>> half of the mid-level exception.
>>>
>>> Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
>>> D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."
>>>
>>> The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>>> five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>>> beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>>> become free agents.
>>>
>> Unbelievable!!!!!!!!
>
> If they have a shot at signing Udrih, they should be working on it. Do they
> think LeBron wants to go from one team where he has no help to another where
> he will have no help? Duhon is nothing but a stop gap and a bad one at that.
> I'd rather they reup with Nate. We have our own problems and I am tired of
> this team helping the Bulss get rid of their marginal players.
>
>
Duhon is an unrestricted free agent so the Knicks won't be doing
the Bulls any favors by signing him. He's no longer under
contract to the Bulls and they have no rights to match an offer.
He's only going to cost his next team the money guaranteed in
his new contract. So the Knicks are more than welcome to him, no
strings attached.

[CUT]
>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>become free agents.
[CUT]

BTW Udrih used to play in Milan ('Nilo's team, but years b4) before being
called by the CIA...

I really dont know how they made a player out of him, really he SUCKED big
big time in Italy and I could not believe he was called by Pop, but, once
again, they're ALWAYS ahead of the competition... (Ginobili is a second
rounder :) ).

Would not overlook Duhon, even tho I believe he lacks size, he does have
"huevos" and he is a good defender and, even if not very trustable, can be a
good spot up 3 point shooter at times... I do not see any MJ in your
backcourt right now...

Talking about Steph, you might know that his cousin (Jamel Thomas) has been
playing for years in Italy, and he really HATES Steph, I found a post by JT
on an online american newspaper (i believe it was Washington
somethingnews...) where JT was saying basically that Steph is the most
selfish person he's ever met...

If his relatives think that, I wonder what NYK fans think about Steph... (He
said he's gonna play in Italy, oh my...)

Ciao
ASC

"Strange Cat @ Work" <dummy@dummy.com> wrote in message
news:486a4217$0$18156$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it...
> [CUT]
>>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>>five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>>beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>>become free agents.
> [CUT]
>
> BTW Udrih used to play in Milan ('Nilo's team, but years b4) before being
> called by the CIA...
>
> I really dont know how they made a player out of him, really he SUCKED big
> big time in Italy and I could not believe he was called by Pop, but, once
> again, they're ALWAYS ahead of the competition... (Ginobili is a second
> rounder :) ).
>
> Would not overlook Duhon, even tho I believe he lacks size, he does have
> "huevos" and he is a good defender and, even if not very trustable, can be
> a good spot up 3 point shooter at times... I do not see any MJ in your
> backcourt right now...
>
> Talking about Steph, you might know that his cousin (Jamel Thomas) has
> been playing for years in Italy, and he really HATES Steph, I found a post
> by JT on an online american newspaper (i believe it was Washington
> somethingnews...) where JT was saying basically that Steph is the most
> selfish person he's ever met...
>
> If his relatives think that, I wonder what NYK fans think about Steph...
> (He said he's gonna play in Italy, oh my...)
>
> Ciao
> ASC
>
Pretty much, we agree with how JT feels about Steph.
Thanks for the info on Duhon. I didn't know he can play D. The rap on him is
he can move the ball but he can't shoot very well. If he can pass and play
D, he actually may be a good fit here. God knows we have enough guys to
shoot (figuratively and literally) on this team.

> Pretty much, we agree with how JT feels about Steph.

Had no doubt. Even if he tried to get rid of Zeke on the plane to PHX, i
learnt...

> Thanks for the info on Duhon. I didn't know he can play D. The rap on him
> is he can move the ball but he can't shoot very well. If he can pass and
> play D, he actually may be a good fit here.

I like CD, I always have. I think he plays with "garra" (spanish for hustle,
heart) and that is not so automatic for NBA players, I think...

> God knows we have enough guys to shoot (figuratively and literally) on
> this team.
Ah ah ah :)

Don't worry. Mike from Mullens, WV will turn your team in a contender in 3-4
yrs and everybody will be happy at the Olympic towers.

Ciao
ASC

P.S. Of course you'll always end up losing the East finals :)))

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
<dan.zinder@gmail.com> wrote:

>www.nydailynews.com
>
>BY MITCH LAWRENCE
>DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
>
>As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
>point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.
>
>The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
>half of the mid-level exception.
>
>Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
>D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."
>
>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>become free agents.

Relax, it's only for 2 years and it's a stop gap till 2010 as you saw.
All the NBA teams are band-aiding their roster and trying to dump
salary as they get ready for the 2010 sweepstakes.

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:38:28 +0200, "Strange Cat @ Work"
<dummy@dummy.com> wrote:

>[CUT]
>>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
>>five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
>>beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
>>become free agents.
>[CUT]
>
>BTW Udrih used to play in Milan ('Nilo's team, but years b4) before being
>called by the CIA...
>
>I really dont know how they made a player out of him, really he SUCKED big
>big time in Italy and I could not believe he was called by Pop, but, once
>again, they're ALWAYS ahead of the competition... (Ginobili is a second
>rounder :) ).
>
>Would not overlook Duhon, even tho I believe he lacks size, he does have
>"huevos" and he is a good defender and, even if not very trustable, can be a
>good spot up 3 point shooter at times... I do not see any MJ in your
>backcourt right now...
>
>Talking about Steph, you might know that his cousin (Jamel Thomas) has been
>playing for years in Italy, and he really HATES Steph, I found a post by JT
>on an online american newspaper (i believe it was Washington
>somethingnews...) where JT was saying basically that Steph is the most
>selfish person he's ever met...
>
>If his relatives think that, I wonder what NYK fans think about Steph... (He
>said he's gonna play in Italy, oh my...)
>
>Ciao
>ASC
>
Steph is all yours

On Jul 1, 10:38 am, "Strange Cat @ Work" <du...@dummy.com> wrote:
> [CUT]>The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
> >five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
> >beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
> >become free agents.
>
> [CUT]
>
> BTW Udrih used to play in Milan ('Nilo's team, but years b4) before being
> called by the CIA...
>
> I really dont know how they made a player out of him, really he SUCKED big
> big time in Italy and I could not believe he was called by Pop, but, once
> again, they're ALWAYS ahead of the competition... (Ginobili is a second
> rounder :) ).
>
> Would not overlook Duhon, even tho I believe he lacks size, he does have
> "huevos" and he is a good defender and, even if not very trustable, can be a
> good spot up 3 point shooter at times... I do not see any MJ in your
> backcourt right now...
>
> Talking about Steph, you might know that his cousin (Jamel Thomas) has been
> playing for years in Italy, and he really HATES Steph, I found a post by JT
> on an online american newspaper (i believe it was Washington
> somethingnews...) where JT was saying basically that Steph is the most
> selfish person he's ever met...
>
> If his relatives think that, I wonder what NYK fans think about Steph... (He
> said he's gonna play in Italy, oh my...)
>
> Ciao
> ASC

Well, SeaBass Telfair is also Steph's cousin and they had a pretty bad
falling out too. Definitely a butt head.

On Jul 1, 1:08 pm, Doctor Chen <drc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
>
>
> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >www.nydailynews.com
>
> >BY MITCH LAWRENCE
> >DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
>
> >As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
> >point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.
>
> >The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
> >half of the mid-level exception.
>
> >Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
> >D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."
>
> >The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
> >five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
> >beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
> >become free agents.
>
> Relax, it's only for 2 years and it's a stop gap till 2010 as you saw.
> All the NBA teams are band-aiding their roster and trying to dump
> salary as they get ready for the 2010 sweepstakes.


I'm not actually concerned.I'm on a fishing mission...

I do like the prospects of Udrith. He'd be a fine stopgap.

On Jul 1, 8:21 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> If they have a shot at signing Udrih, they should be working on it. Do they
> think LeBron wants to go from one team where he has no help to another where
> he will have no help? Duhon is nothing but a stop gap and a bad one at that.
> I'd rather they reup with Nate. We have our own problems and I am tired of
> this team helping the Bulss get rid of their marginal players.

Nonsense. There's only one way Udrih would come here over all the
better teams that want him -- and that's the old fashioned Knick way,
which is to wildly overpay him until you're saddled with a contract
extending for six years that you can never move and no one else
wants. Udrih's agent is saying even the full mid-level isn't good
enough. Good luck with that. Look at all the guys like Udrih who had
one good season in their contract year, perked up some interest around
the league, and whom we were smart enough to woo away by being the
highest bidder with the longest deal...let's see, the two JJs: Jared
Jeffries and Jerome James. Do we learn nothing from history that
recent?

Duhon, on the other hand, sounds like a *completely* sensible play.
Give the guy two years at $2M per. He's not the greatest PG ever, but
he'll be a fine stopgap for this "rebuilding" time -- where we are not
going to win much anyway regardless of what we do -- and let them give
Marbury the boot. If Duhon totally sucks, the risk is very minimal at
$2M for two years, and it allows them to hang onto Lee for a better
cap-clearing trade instead of having to swap him for Felton, who isn't
Walt Frazier either. It's the first sane proposal I've heard from
Knicks management with regard to free agents in many years.

Don't lose sight of the point, folks. We're trying to clear it out so
we can have a chance to be good later, not trying to get a couple
players in a losing effort to patch this roster together now. Haven't
you all had enough of that already?

And as for LeBron, face facts -- he ain't coming here. There's
already plenty of teams that are going to have something more
attractive to offer him, if he indeed leaves Ohio (and I doubt he
will). But the idea of him coming is the perfect carrot to dangle in
front of the dipshit owner in order to convince him to exercise some
patience and make some sane moves, and try to rebuild this roster into
one with vaguely movable assets instead of a pile of albatrosses that
leave the team permanently shackled. Stay with it and don't fall into
all the old traps. If we fans start encouraging Isiah-like moves like
throwing the full midlevel at a Beno Udrih until 2013, there's really
no one else to blame.

On Jul 1, 9:12 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Udrih's agent is saying even the full mid-level isn't good
> enough.

Hadn't heard that... guess he's not coming here then, eh?

On Jul 1, 10:09 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 9:12 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Udrih's agent is saying even the full mid-level isn't good
> > enough.
>
> Hadn't heard that... guess he's not coming here then, eh?

Nope. Petrie took the bait. I'm surprised.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3469582

On Jul 1, 10:31 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 10:09 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 1, 9:12 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Udrih's agent is saying even the full mid-level isn't good
> > > enough.
>
> > Hadn't heard that... guess he's not coming here then, eh?
>
> Nope. Petrie took the bait. I'm surprised.
>
> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3469582

HOLY SWEET JESUS that's a lot of money for Beno Udrih!!!!

I wish i was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller...

On Jul 1, 10:39 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> HOLY SWEET JESUS that's a lot of money for Beno Udrih!!!!
>
> I wish i was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller...

Word.

10 points, 4 assists, 33 million dollars.

For once I can gleefully say on the Knicks' behalf, "Not it!"

It's strange because Sacramento's been blowing it up left and right
over the last few years. Maybe they really see something in him. I
see a few more lottery seasons, myself.

> Well, SeaBass Telfair is also Steph's cousin and they had a pretty bad
> falling out too. Definitely a butt head.

Yeah, I knew that. I think JT and Telfair get along well tho.

Ciao
ASC

"Noah" <dontsendmeyerspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 10:39 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> HOLY SWEET JESUS that's a lot of money for Beno Udrih!!!!
>
> I wish i was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller...

Word.

10 points, 4 assists, 33 million dollars.

For once I can gleefully say on the Knicks' behalf, "Not it!"

It's strange because Sacramento's been blowing it up left and right
over the last few years. Maybe they really see something in him. I
see a few more lottery seasons, myself.

Glad he is not a Knick if that was the deal we needed to make.

On Jul 1, 4:53 am, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capn'O"
>
>
>
> <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >www.nydailynews.com
>
> >BY MITCH LAWRENCE
> >DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
>
> >As free agency opened, the Knicks immediately went after Bulls backup
> >point guard Chris Duhon, the New York Daily News are reporting.
>
> >The Knicks are believed to be offering Duhon a two year contract worth
> >half of the mid-level exception.
>
> >Our backcourt could be a little thin right now," Knicks coach Mike
> >D'Antoni said. "We could get some help there, no doubt."
>
> >The Knicks are interested in Sacramento's Beno Udrih, but he wants a
> >five-year deal. The Knicks don't want to add anything to their cap
> >beyond July 2010, when LeBron James and other marquee players can
> >become free agents.
>
> Unbelievable!!!!!!!!

At least you have a PG!

On Jul 2, 5:24 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> "Noah" <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d1057b2a-40d8-43a3-9d31-c836c5def7fb@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 1, 10:39 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > HOLY SWEET JESUS that's a lot of money for Beno Udrih!!!!
>
> > I wish i was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller...
>
> Word.
>
> 10 points, 4 assists, 33 million dollars.
>
> For once I can gleefully say on the Knicks' behalf, "Not it!"
>
> It's strange because Sacramento's been blowing it up left and right
> over the last few years. Maybe they really see something in him. I
> see a few more lottery seasons, myself.
>
> Glad he is not a Knick if that was the deal we needed to make.

All fairness, Beno can play. His numbers are a product of playing
time.

On Jul 2, 12:34 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> All fairness, Beno can play.  His numbers are a product of playing
> time.

Those numbers came from his role as a starter all season for Sac.

On Jul 2, 12:33 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> At least you have a PG!

If you like our situation better, I'd be more than happy to trade...

Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On Jul 2, 5:24 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>> "Noah" <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:d1057b2a-40d8-43a3-9d31-c836c5def7fb@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 1, 10:39 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> HOLY SWEET JESUS that's a lot of money for Beno Udrih!!!!
>>> I wish i was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller...
>> Word.
>>
>> 10 points, 4 assists, 33 million dollars.
>>
>> For once I can gleefully say on the Knicks' behalf, "Not it!"
>>
>> It's strange because Sacramento's been blowing it up left and right
>> over the last few years. Maybe they really see something in him. I
>> see a few more lottery seasons, myself.
>>
>> Glad he is not a Knick if that was the deal we needed to make.
>
> All fairness, Beno can play. His numbers are a product of playing
> time.

as a spurs fan...id say lets give him a full season as a starter before
jumping to any conclusions (or offering a huge contract)

his rookie year he showed promise as parkers backup, but in the playoffs
he totally self destructed. he became a turnover machine, to the point
where pop benched him and moved barry to the backup PG.

i think it REALLY rattled the kid....but he claims popovich never gave
him a shot and he never got playing time...there has to be more to the
story. when he did get time, he didnt produce much aside from a flash
here and there.

while i admit i dont think i saw him play a single game this season, i
have heard the buzz about how great hes doing in sacramento. and my
eyes nearly bugged out when i saw it was only 10 pts and 4 assists.....

there have been questions about his work ethic all throughout his tenrue
in SA. i cant believe he got full MLE for 1 season of 10 & 4.

lee

On Jul 2, 5:13 pm, Lee Watkins <lwatkins.nos...@nospam.juno.com>
wrote:

> as a spurs fan...id say lets give him a full season as a starter before
> jumping to any conclusions  (or offering a huge contract)

He just had one. Bibby was injured for the first half of the season
last year. He came back and played only a few games before getting
traded to Atlanta.

> while i admit i dont think i saw him play a single game this season,

Er...he did drop 30 or so on the Spurs one time...

> there have been questions about his work ethic all throughout his tenrue
> in SA.  i cant believe he got full MLE for 1 season of 10 & 4.

Me neither...and especially from Petrie, who generally knows better
and just traded Bibby for a few spare parts, which was assumably to
get rid of a bad contract. Um...

On Jul 2, 9:37 am, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 12:34 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > All fairness, Beno can play. His numbers are a product of playing
> > time.
>
> Those numbers came from his role as a starter all season for Sac.

Sometimes starter. I saw games where AJ was starting and games when
Bibby started. Your point is well taken though. I think had he been
used more consistently and also not had Ron Ron on the team, he'd be a
servicible PG, numbers wise. He's actually a decent player. Salary
structure is out of whack though. I don't mind Gil or Brand or Baron
getting theirs. They put butts in the seats. Beno and mid level
players don't deserve that kind of cash though. They are just a long
for the ride.

Rizzo

On Jul 2, 11:59 am, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 12:33 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > At least you have a PG!
>
> If you like our situation better, I'd be more than happy to trade...

Umm, no. But we'll both be in the lottery this season. Unless
drastic changes take place.

On Jul 2, 2:13 pm, Lee Watkins <lwatkins.nos...@nospam.juno.com>
wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> > On Jul 2, 5:24 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack...@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
> >> "Noah" <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:d1057b2a-40d8-43a3-9d31-c836c5def7fb@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 1, 10:39 pm, "Capn'O" <dan.zin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> HOLY SWEET JESUS that's a lot of money for Beno Udrih!!!!
> >>> I wish i was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller...
> >> Word.
>
> >> 10 points, 4 assists, 33 million dollars.
>
> >> For once I can gleefully say on the Knicks' behalf, "Not it!"
>
> >> It's strange because Sacramento's been blowing it up left and right
> >> over the last few years. Maybe they really see something in him. I
> >> see a few more lottery seasons, myself.
>
> >> Glad he is not a Knick if that was the deal we needed to make.
>
> > All fairness, Beno can play. His numbers are a product of playing
> > time.
>
> as a spurs fan...id say lets give him a full season as a starter before
> jumping to any conclusions (or offering a huge contract)
>
> his rookie year he showed promise as parkers backup, but in the playoffs
> he totally self destructed. he became a turnover machine, to the point
> where pop benched him and moved barry to the backup PG.
>
> i think it REALLY rattled the kid....but he claims popovich never gave
> him a shot and he never got playing time...there has to be more to the
> story. when he did get time, he didnt produce much aside from a flash
> here and there.
>
> while i admit i dont think i saw him play a single game this season, i
> have heard the buzz about how great hes doing in sacramento. and my
> eyes nearly bugged out when i saw it was only 10 pts and 4 assists.....
>
> there have been questions about his work ethic all throughout his tenrue
> in SA. i cant believe he got full MLE for 1 season of 10 & 4.
>
> lee

I had a lot of Kings games on League Pass and he played more like a 14
and 7 guy....Better than some, but not most. Having artest on the
team is a big handicap to anyone.

On Jul 2, 3:13 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 5:13 pm, Lee Watkins <lwatkins.nos...@nospam.juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> > as a spurs fan...id say lets give him a full season as a starter before
> > jumping to any conclusions (or offering a huge contract)
>
> He just had one. Bibby was injured for the first half of the season
> last year. He came back and played only a few games before getting
> traded to Atlanta.
>
> > while i admit i dont think i saw him play a single game this season,
>
> Er...he did drop 30 or so on the Spurs one time...
>
> > there have been questions about his work ethic all throughout his tenrue
> > in SA. i cant believe he got full MLE for 1 season of 10 & 4.
>
> Me neither...and especially from Petrie, who generally knows better
> and just traded Bibby for a few spare parts, which was assumably to
> get rid of a bad contract. Um...

I think part of that is also the landscape out there. If you don't
land a starting PG, you're starting Anthony Johnson. They are in
short supply right now.

Frank Rizzo:

> But we'll both be in the lottery this season.

What do you mean? W/D' said we're going to be winning *now.*

DG

On Jul 2, 8:58 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo:
>
> > But we'll both be in the lottery this season.
>
> What do you mean? W/D' said we're going to be winning *now.*
>
> DG

Well did they consult Zeke on that one?

Frank Rizzo:

> Well did they consult Zeke on that one?

Isiah Lord Thomas III thinks we already won.
Wouldn't you, if you were sipping Campari on an Italian beach at $5MM/year?

DG

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:18:51 -0400, Dan Gaters
<dan.gaters@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Frank Rizzo:
>
>> Well did they consult Zeke on that one?
>
>Isiah Lord Thomas III thinks we already won.
>Wouldn't you, if you were sipping Campari on an Italian beach at $5MM/year?
>
>DG
>

I wish it were me dan...........

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:05:21 GMT, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-Dyas@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:18:51 -0400, Dan Gaters
><dan.gaters@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Frank Rizzo:
>>
>>> Well did they consult Zeke on that one?
>>
>>Isiah Lord Thomas III thinks we already won.
>>Wouldn't you, if you were sipping Campari on an Italian beach at $5MM/year?
>>
>>DG
>>
>
>I wish it were me dan...........

I mean seriously. Dolan can just pay me $500,000 a year and I can
probably do not worse than Isaiah Lord Thomas III. Please Dolan, sign
me for $500,000 a year for 6 years as your basketball consultant
please!!!!

On Jul 2, 11:05 pm, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:18:51 -0400, Dan Gaters
>
> <dan.gat...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Frank Rizzo:
>
> >> Well did they consult Zeke on that one?
>
> >Isiah Lord Thomas III thinks we already won.
> >Wouldn't you, if you were sipping Campari on an Italian beach at $5MM/year?
>
> >DG
>
> I wish it were me dan...........

I'm guessing any of us would be ok with that gig.