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Terraholm
05-21-2008, 04:05 AM
Assuming that KP stands pat (silly idea)...
Article from the warriors group on draft prospects;


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/20/SPLO10P2JL.DTL

These players should be gone by pick No. 10:

O.J. Mayo, 6-4, point guard/shooting guard, USC, 20: He can play
either guard position, can score in a variety of ways and has an NBA
body. NBA comparison: Brandon Roy.

Brook Lopez, 7-0, center, Stanford, 20: The best center in the draft,
Lopez can score, and he runs well for his size. NBA comparison: Chris
Kaman.

Jerryd Bayless, 6-3, point guard, Arizona, 19: Excellent scorer who
can penetrate or shoot from distance, but is not a true point guard.
NBA comparison: Gilbert Arenas.

Eric Gordon, 6-2, point guard/shooting guard, Indiana, 19: Gordon has
an NBA body and he can score on anybody. NBA comparison: Ray Allen.
Just out of reach?

Players who could available if the Warriors trade up, or the players
move down:

Kevin Love, 6-9, power forward, UCLA, 19: He has great fundamentals
and has every skill, but lacks quickness and length. NBA comparison:
Carlos Boozer.

Danilo Gallinari, 6-9, small forward, Italy, 19: The best
international player in the draft, Gallinari has point-guard skills in
a long, athletic body. NBA comparison: Hedo Turkoglu.

Anthony Randolph, 6-10, small forward, LSU, 18: Remarkably agile for
his size, Randolph is oozing potential, but could be a bust. NBA
comparison: Pao Gasol.
Most likely Warriors

Top players who might be available at No. 14:

D.J. Augustin, 5-11, point guard, Texas, 20: Size is the only question
with Augustin, the consummate point guard. NBA comparison: Jameer
Nelson.

Russell Westbrook, 6-4, point guard/shooting guard, UCLA, 19: Good
defender and excellent athlete who made vast improvement this year.
NBA comparison: Leandro Barbosa.

DeAndre Jordan, 7-0, center, Texas A&M, 19: Varying opinions on
Jordan, who has an NBA body but produced little as a freshman. NBA
comparison: Kendrick Perkins.

JaVale McGee, 7-0, center, Nevada, 20: Long, athletic big man with
loads of potential. NBA comparison: Andrew Bynum.

Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
Tom Gugliotta.

Donte Green, 6-10, small forward, Syracuse, 20: Versatile scorer with
potential. NBA comparison: Rashard Lewis.

Nicolas Batum, 6-8, small forward, France, 19: Raw, but skilled and
athletic, with a chance to be special; could be the sleeper of the
draft. NBA comparison: Rudy Gay.

Darrell Arthur, 6-9, power forward, Kansas, 20: Athletic big man who
might thrive outside Kansas' restrictive system. NBA comparison:
Antonio McDyess.

Kosta Koufos, 7-1, center, Ohio State, 19: Skilled, though not
particularly athletic, big man with excellent shooting range. NBA
comparison: Mehmet Okur.

Chase Budinger, 6-7, shooting guard, Arizona, 20: Great athlete who
can shoot and score. NBA comparison: Jason Richardson.
Keep in mind ...

Players who could be surprise picks in the top 14:

Alexis Ajinca, 7-1, center, France, 20: A skinny player with limited
experience who might withdraw from the draft, but has the athleticism
and intensity to be a star. NBA comparison: Kevin Garnett.

Robin Lopez, 7-0, center, Stanford, 20: Though still raw offensively,
Lopez is a better athlete than twin brother Brook, and could be better
than his brother in five years. NBA comparison: Anderson Varejao.

Jason Thompson, 6-11, power forward, Rider, 21: Mobile big man who can
score but played against mediocre competition. NBA comparison: Joe
Smith.

Nathan Jawai, 6-10, center, Australia, 21: An intriguing long-shot
pick who has risen quickly as a physical inside player but has a long
way to go. NBA comparison: Shaquille O'Neal.

Terraholm
05-21-2008, 04:03 PM
31. Miami (To Minnesota via Boston)
32. Seattle
33. Memphis (To Portland)

36. New York (To Portland)

55. Phoenix (To Portland via Indiana)

Frank Rizzo
05-26-2008, 11:36 PM
On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Assuming that KP stands pat (silly idea)...
> Article from the warriors group on draft prospects;
>
> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/20/SPLO10P2JL.DTL
>
> These players should be gone by pick No. 10:
>
> O.J. Mayo, 6-4, point guard/shooting guard, USC, 20: He can play
> either guard position, can score in a variety of ways and has an NBA
> body. NBA comparison: Brandon Roy.
>
> Brook Lopez, 7-0, center, Stanford, 20: The best center in the draft,
> Lopez can score, and he runs well for his size. NBA comparison: Chris
> Kaman.
>
> Jerryd Bayless, 6-3, point guard, Arizona, 19: Excellent scorer who
> can penetrate or shoot from distance, but is not a true point guard.
> NBA comparison: Gilbert Arenas.
>
> Eric Gordon, 6-2, point guard/shooting guard, Indiana, 19: Gordon has
> an NBA body and he can score on anybody. NBA comparison: Ray Allen.
> Just out of reach?
>
> Players who could available if the Warriors trade up, or the players
> move down:
>
> Kevin Love, 6-9, power forward, UCLA, 19: He has great fundamentals
> and has every skill, but lacks quickness and length. NBA comparison:
> Carlos Boozer.
>
> Danilo Gallinari, 6-9, small forward, Italy, 19: The best
> international player in the draft, Gallinari has point-guard skills in
> a long, athletic body. NBA comparison: Hedo Turkoglu.
>
> Anthony Randolph, 6-10, small forward, LSU, 18: Remarkably agile for
> his size, Randolph is oozing potential, but could be a bust. NBA
> comparison: Pao Gasol.
> Most likely Warriors
>
> Top players who might be available at No. 14:
>
> D.J. Augustin, 5-11, point guard, Texas, 20: Size is the only question
> with Augustin, the consummate point guard. NBA comparison: Jameer
> Nelson.
>
> Russell Westbrook, 6-4, point guard/shooting guard, UCLA, 19: Good
> defender and excellent athlete who made vast improvement this year.
> NBA comparison: Leandro Barbosa.
>
> DeAndre Jordan, 7-0, center, Texas A&M, 19: Varying opinions on
> Jordan, who has an NBA body but produced little as a freshman. NBA
> comparison: Kendrick Perkins.
>
> JaVale McGee, 7-0, center, Nevada, 20: Long, athletic big man with
> loads of potential. NBA comparison: Andrew Bynum.
>
> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
> Tom Gugliotta.
>
> Donte Green, 6-10, small forward, Syracuse, 20: Versatile scorer with
> potential. NBA comparison: Rashard Lewis.
>
> Nicolas Batum, 6-8, small forward, France, 19: Raw, but skilled and
> athletic, with a chance to be special; could be the sleeper of the
> draft. NBA comparison: Rudy Gay.
>
> Darrell Arthur, 6-9, power forward, Kansas, 20: Athletic big man who
> might thrive outside Kansas' restrictive system. NBA comparison:
> Antonio McDyess.
>
> Kosta Koufos, 7-1, center, Ohio State, 19: Skilled, though not
> particularly athletic, big man with excellent shooting range. NBA
> comparison: Mehmet Okur.
>
> Chase Budinger, 6-7, shooting guard, Arizona, 20: Great athlete who
> can shoot and score. NBA comparison: Jason Richardson.
> Keep in mind ...
>
> Players who could be surprise picks in the top 14:
>
> Alexis Ajinca, 7-1, center, France, 20: A skinny player with limited
> experience who might withdraw from the draft, but has the athleticism
> and intensity to be a star. NBA comparison: Kevin Garnett.
>
> Robin Lopez, 7-0, center, Stanford, 20: Though still raw offensively,
> Lopez is a better athlete than twin brother Brook, and could be better
> than his brother in five years. NBA comparison: Anderson Varejao.
>
> Jason Thompson, 6-11, power forward, Rider, 21: Mobile big man who can
> score but played against mediocre competition. NBA comparison: Joe
> Smith.
>
> Nathan Jawai, 6-10, center, Australia, 21: An intriguing long-shot
> pick who has risen quickly as a physical inside player but has a long
> way to go. NBA comparison: Shaquille O'Neal.

I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF in
this league.

Terraholm
05-27-2008, 01:32 AM
Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
>> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
>> Tom Gugliotta.
>>

>
> I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
> rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF in
> this league.


How is his temperment?

Sounds like KP is shopping the pick anyway...


--
Laurel T
I don't hate anyone, at least not for
more than 48 minutes, barring overtime."
Charles Barkley

Terraholm
05-27-2008, 02:39 AM
Terraholm wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
>> On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
>>> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
>>> Tom Gugliotta.
>>>
>
>>
>> I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
>> rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF in
>> this league.
>
>
> How is his temperment?
>

Draft express says on that..
“Maniacal” work ethic/Self-made player

On the other hand looks like another project and we have those nearer
fruitition....



Draft express has portland with him in their mock. nbadraft.net has him
going at 8th.


--
Laurel T
A coach after being informed, that like
players, their drug tests would include
banned performance enhancing drugs:
"Does that include Viagra?"

Blazer Fan Dan
05-27-2008, 05:28 AM
On May 26, 5:32 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> > On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
> >> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
> >> Tom Gugliotta.
>
> > I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
> > rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF in
> > this league.
>
> How is his temperment?
>
> Sounds like KP is shopping the pick anyway...
>

Orange Juice.

Frank Rizzo
05-27-2008, 11:10 PM
On May 26, 6:39 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Terraholm wrote:
> > Frank Rizzo wrote:
> >> On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
> >>> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
> >>> Tom Gugliotta.
>
> >> I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
> >> rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF in
> >> this league.
>
> > How is his temperment?
>
> Draft express says on that..
> “Maniacal” work ethic/Self-made player
>
> On the other hand looks like another project and we have those nearer
> fruitition....
>
> Draft express has portland with him in their mock. nbadraft.net has him
> going at 8th.
>
> --
> Laurel T
> A coach after being informed, that like
> players, their drug tests would include
> banned performance enhancing drugs:
> "Does that include Viagra?"

I don't think Alexander is a project at all. I think he can play now
(some minutes anyway) and push for starter by year two..

Terraholm
05-28-2008, 01:39 AM
Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On May 26, 6:39 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Terraholm wrote:
>>> Frank Rizzo wrote:
>>>> On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
>>>>> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA
>>>>> comparison: Tom Gugliotta.
>>
>>>> I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
>>>> rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF
>>>> in this league.
>>
>>> How is his temperment?
>>
>> Draft express says on that..
>> “Maniacal” work ethic/Self-made player
>>
>> On the other hand looks like another project and we have those nearer
>> fruitition....
>>
>> Draft express has portland with him in their mock. nbadraft.net has
>> him going at 8th.


>
> I don't think Alexander is a project at all. I think he can play now
> (some minutes anyway) and push for starter by year two..

So make a case for him over Webster and Outlaw...2 they already spent years
developing.

Personally I think about the only mistake KP has made was letting Udoka
walk. I think they would have won several more games with him even though
Webster might not have progressed as well.

--
Laurel T
"When asked if he was a basketball player:
"No I clean giraffe ears."
Elvin Hayes

Frank Rizzo
05-28-2008, 04:09 AM
On May 27, 5:39 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> > On May 26, 6:39 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Terraholm wrote:
> >>> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> >>>> On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
> >>>>> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA
> >>>>> comparison: Tom Gugliotta.
>
> >>>> I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
> >>>> rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF
> >>>> in this league.
>
> >>> How is his temperment?
>
> >> Draft express says on that..
> >> “Maniacal” work ethic/Self-made player
>
> >> On the other hand looks like another project and we have those nearer
> >> fruitition....
>
> >> Draft express has portland with him in their mock. nbadraft.net has
> >> him going at 8th.
>
> > I don't think Alexander is a project at all. I think he can play now
> > (some minutes anyway) and push for starter by year two..
>
> So make a case for him over Webster and Outlaw...2 they already spent years
> developing.

1) $$$$. Aren't both those guys needing new contracts? My guess is
Webster may not be back. Outlaw is a tweener. Also a hard worker.
Alexander is a 3, like Webster. I also just think at 13 he'll be the
best available.

>
> Personally I think about the only mistake KP has made was letting Udoka
> walk. I think they would have won several more games with him even though
> Webster might not have progressed as well.

I'm not yet sold on Udoka. He has flashes, but sometimes he goes
Mickael Pietrus out there (makes really stupid mistakes). I also
don't see him as the lock down defender and heir apparent to Bowen.
That said, if that's KPs worst mistake he'll be GM of the year in no
time. FYI, that was also likely a money thing, unfortunately. Great
quote by the Big E.

>
> --
> Laurel T
> "When asked if he was a basketball player:
> "No I clean giraffe ears."
> Elvin Hayes

Terraholm
05-28-2008, 04:52 AM
Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On May 27, 5:39 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Frank Rizzo wrote:
>>> On May 26, 6:39 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Terraholm wrote:
>>>>> Frank Rizzo wrote:
>>>>>> On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
>>>>>>> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA
>>>>>>> comparison: Tom Gugliotta.
>>
>>>>>> I like Alexander for PDX.....he's athletic and plays above the
>>>>>> rim......he can shoot a little and he's strong enough to guard SF
>>>>>> in this league.
>>
>>>>> How is his temperment?
>>
>>>> Draft express says on that..
>>>> “Maniacal” work ethic/Self-made player
>>
>>>> On the other hand looks like another project and we have those
>>>> nearer fruitition....
>>
>>>> Draft express has portland with him in their mock. nbadraft.net has
>>>> him going at 8th.
>>
>>> I don't think Alexander is a project at all. I think he can play now
>>> (some minutes anyway) and push for starter by year two..
>>
>> So make a case for him over Webster and Outlaw...2 they already
>> spent years developing.
>
> 1) $$$$. Aren't both those guys needing new contracts?

Outlaw is on a 4 year extension at 4 mil per. FA in '11
This will be his 6th! season and he will be 24 in Sept...
If Webster is not traded he likely will not be given an extension this
summer and so be a RFA next summer... will likely be re-signed at reasonable
market value if he continues to improve.
Blazers will be well under the cap summer '10., maybe 2 max contracts under.
(even with retaining Outlaw a FA with a raise plus if still here Webster,
Frye and Jack at market value...will all be RFAs)
After that summer they will have to be giving big extensions to the stars
but sounds like Allen will not care then if he has to pay luxury tax...

>My guess is
> Webster may not be back. Outlaw is a tweener.

Nate loves small ball.... =/

Also a hard worker.
> Alexander is a 3, like Webster. I also just think at 13 he'll be the
> best available.

May not last that far.

>>
>> Personally I think about the only mistake KP has made was letting
>> Udoka walk. I think they would have won several more games with him
>> even though Webster might not have progressed as well.
>
> I'm not yet sold on Udoka. He has flashes, but sometimes he goes
> Mickael Pietrus out there (makes really stupid mistakes). I also
> don't see him as the lock down defender and heir apparent to Bowen.

Not quite bowen...but Webster's "D" although improving made him a vast
improvement...

> That said, if that's KPs worst mistake he'll be GM of the year in no
> time. FYI, that was also likely a money thing, unfortunately.

Yes his agent put out that he had offers for more than what KP would pay
trying to jack up the price... and so KP spent their escrow limit room on
Blake and signed the 2 second rounders. They could have afforded what the
spurs paid.


--
Laurel T
Frank Layden on a 60-foot Maurice Lucas shot that
sent a game into overtime:
"In most places he would have won a car
or a trip to Hawaii. All he got was a tie."

Frank Rizzo
05-28-2008, 05:16 AM
On May 20, 8:05 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Assuming that KP stands pat (silly idea)...
> Article from the warriors group on draft prospects;
>
> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/20/SPLO10P2JL.DTL
>
> These players should be gone by pick No. 10:
>
> O.J. Mayo, 6-4, point guard/shooting guard, USC, 20: He can play
> either guard position, can score in a variety of ways and has an NBA
> body. NBA comparison: Brandon Roy.
>
> Brook Lopez, 7-0, center, Stanford, 20: The best center in the draft,
> Lopez can score, and he runs well for his size. NBA comparison: Chris
> Kaman.
>
> Jerryd Bayless, 6-3, point guard, Arizona, 19: Excellent scorer who
> can penetrate or shoot from distance, but is not a true point guard.
> NBA comparison: Gilbert Arenas.
>
> Eric Gordon, 6-2, point guard/shooting guard, Indiana, 19: Gordon has
> an NBA body and he can score on anybody. NBA comparison: Ray Allen.
> Just out of reach?
>
> Players who could available if the Warriors trade up, or the players
> move down:
>
> Kevin Love, 6-9, power forward, UCLA, 19: He has great fundamentals
> and has every skill, but lacks quickness and length. NBA comparison:
> Carlos Boozer.
>
> Danilo Gallinari, 6-9, small forward, Italy, 19: The best
> international player in the draft, Gallinari has point-guard skills in
> a long, athletic body. NBA comparison: Hedo Turkoglu.
>
> Anthony Randolph, 6-10, small forward, LSU, 18: Remarkably agile for
> his size, Randolph is oozing potential, but could be a bust. NBA
> comparison: Pao Gasol.
> Most likely Warriors
>
> Top players who might be available at No. 14:
>
> D.J. Augustin, 5-11, point guard, Texas, 20: Size is the only question
> with Augustin, the consummate point guard. NBA comparison: Jameer
> Nelson.
>
> Russell Westbrook, 6-4, point guard/shooting guard, UCLA, 19: Good
> defender and excellent athlete who made vast improvement this year.
> NBA comparison: Leandro Barbosa.
>
> DeAndre Jordan, 7-0, center, Texas A&M, 19: Varying opinions on
> Jordan, who has an NBA body but produced little as a freshman. NBA
> comparison: Kendrick Perkins.
>
> JaVale McGee, 7-0, center, Nevada, 20: Long, athletic big man with
> loads of potential. NBA comparison: Andrew Bynum.
>
> Joe Alexander, 6-8, small forward, West Virginia, 21: Improving,
> athletic wing man who might withdraw from the draft. NBA comparison:
> Tom Gugliotta.
>
> Donte Green, 6-10, small forward, Syracuse, 20: Versatile scorer with
> potential. NBA comparison: Rashard Lewis.
>
> Nicolas Batum, 6-8, small forward, France, 19: Raw, but skilled and
> athletic, with a chance to be special; could be the sleeper of the
> draft. NBA comparison: Rudy Gay.
>
> Darrell Arthur, 6-9, power forward, Kansas, 20: Athletic big man who
> might thrive outside Kansas' restrictive system. NBA comparison:
> Antonio McDyess.
>
> Kosta Koufos, 7-1, center, Ohio State, 19: Skilled, though not
> particularly athletic, big man with excellent shooting range. NBA
> comparison: Mehmet Okur.
>
> Chase Budinger, 6-7, shooting guard, Arizona, 20: Great athlete who
> can shoot and score. NBA comparison: Jason Richardson.
> Keep in mind ...
>
> Players who could be surprise picks in the top 14:
>
> Alexis Ajinca, 7-1, center, France, 20: A skinny player with limited
> experience who might withdraw from the draft, but has the athleticism
> and intensity to be a star. NBA comparison: Kevin Garnett.
>
> Robin Lopez, 7-0, center, Stanford, 20: Though still raw offensively,
> Lopez is a better athlete than twin brother Brook, and could be better
> than his brother in five years. NBA comparison: Anderson Varejao.
>
> Jason Thompson, 6-11, power forward, Rider, 21: Mobile big man who can
> score but played against mediocre competition. NBA comparison: Joe
> Smith.
>
> Nathan Jawai, 6-10, center, Australia, 21: An intriguing long-shot
> pick who has risen quickly as a physical inside player but has a long
> way to go. NBA comparison: Shaquille O'Neal.

YOu have to wonder about some of these comparisons. Brook Lopez is
not Chris Kaman. More like Brad Daugherty. Russell Westbrook has
limited shooting ability yet they compare him to Barbosa. More like
Jordan Farmar. Good call on Robin Lopez/Varajao though....