Actually, there are black players but with the explosion of Latinos
and the inclusion of Asians in baseball, the percentage of black
players has decreased.

This latest black whine is just business as usual. What else is new,
that's just what they do. Whine, whine, whine about damn near
everything.

But the most aggravating thing is that pussy suck-up Bud Selig has
instituted a black outreach program, to get more blacks interested in
the game. Will the day ever come when blacks do something for
themselves? Society leads them around like children, and they have
come to expect it. With society's attitudes, they'll always remain in
boyhood, perpetual "victims."

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:14:14 GMT, Relaxin@home.net (A Liberal's Worst Nightmare)
wrote:

>Actually, there are black players but with the explosion of Latinos
>and the inclusion of Asians in baseball, the percentage of black
>players has decreased.
>
>This latest black whine is just business as usual. What else is new,
>that's just what they do. Whine, whine, whine about damn near
>everything.
>
>But the most aggravating thing is that pussy suck-up Bud Selig has
>instituted a black outreach program, to get more blacks interested in
>the game. Will the day ever come when blacks do something for
>themselves? Society leads them around like children, and they have
>come to expect it. With society's attitudes, they'll always remain in
>boyhood, perpetual "victims."


Racist much?




- Scott Smith: scott.smith@iphouse.com
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:29:26 -0500, Scott Smith
<scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:14:14 GMT, Relaxin@home.net (A Liberal's Worst Nightmare)
>wrote:
>
>>Actually, there are black players but with the explosion of Latinos
>>and the inclusion of Asians in baseball, the percentage of black
>>players has decreased.
>>
>>This latest black whine is just business as usual. What else is new,
>>that's just what they do. Whine, whine, whine about damn near
>>everything.
>>
>>But the most aggravating thing is that pussy suck-up Bud Selig has
>>instituted a black outreach program, to get more blacks interested in
>>the game. Will the day ever come when blacks do something for
>>themselves? Society leads them around like children, and they have
>>come to expect it. With society's attitudes, they'll always remain in
>>boyhood, perpetual "victims."
>
>
>Racist much?

Yeah, I'd say that Selig's quota sustem is racist .

Unless you want to set up a quota system for non-black basketball
players.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:36:10 GMT, Windswept@Home (Jack) wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:29:26 -0500, Scott Smith
><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:14:14 GMT, Relaxin@home.net (A Liberal's Worst Nightmare)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Actually, there are black players but with the explosion of Latinos
>>>and the inclusion of Asians in baseball, the percentage of black
>>>players has decreased.
>>>
>>>This latest black whine is just business as usual. What else is new,
>>>that's just what they do. Whine, whine, whine about damn near
>>>everything.
>>>
>>>But the most aggravating thing is that pussy suck-up Bud Selig has
>>>instituted a black outreach program, to get more blacks interested in
>>>the game. Will the day ever come when blacks do something for
>>>themselves? Society leads them around like children, and they have
>>>come to expect it. With society's attitudes, they'll always remain in
>>>boyhood, perpetual "victims."
>>
>>
>>Racist much?
>
>Yeah, I'd say that Selig's quota sustem is racist .
>
>Unless you want to set up a quota system for non-black basketball
>players.

I haven't heard anything about a "quota". All I've heard about are
baseball outreach progams in black communities....and that's not
really anything new. Sports outreach programs in poor communities
have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
productive to do with their time.



- Scott Smith: scott.smith@iphouse.com
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
<scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:36:10 GMT, Windswept@Home (Jack) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:29:26 -0500, Scott Smith
>><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:14:14 GMT, Relaxin@home.net (A Liberal's Worst Nightmare)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Actually, there are black players but with the explosion of Latinos
>>>>and the inclusion of Asians in baseball, the percentage of black
>>>>players has decreased.
>>>>
>>>>This latest black whine is just business as usual. What else is new,
>>>>that's just what they do. Whine, whine, whine about damn near
>>>>everything.
>>>>
>>>>But the most aggravating thing is that pussy suck-up Bud Selig has
>>>>instituted a black outreach program, to get more blacks interested in
>>>>the game. Will the day ever come when blacks do something for
>>>>themselves? Society leads them around like children, and they have
>>>>come to expect it. With society's attitudes, they'll always remain in
>>>>boyhood, perpetual "victims."
>>>
>>>
>>>Racist much?
>>
>>Yeah, I'd say that Selig's quota sustem is racist .
>>
>>Unless you want to set up a quota system for non-black basketball
>>players.
>
>I haven't heard anything about a "quota". All I've heard about are
>baseball outreach progams in black communities....and that's not
>really anything new.

Tell me about it.

After all the years that blacks have participated in baseball, they
need to be "reached"?

> Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>productive to do with their time.

Don't recall any in my poor Baltimore community back in the day, but
we kept out of trouble.

Let's start reaching out for Eskimo basketball players while we're at
it.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
<scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:

>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>productive to do with their time.

As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
drop-off in black MLB players.

Has nothing to do with keeping kids occupied.

Hell, they'd rather do hoops all summer anyway.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>productive to do with their time.
>
>As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>drop-off in black MLB players.

I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.



- Scott Smith: scott.smith@iphouse.com
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith

In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
> >>productive to do with their time.
> >
> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>
> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.

Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?

--
JD

"...if you think the 'Star Wars' prequels are a disease, then
'Serenity' is the cure."

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:

>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>> >>productive to do with their time.
>> >
>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>
>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>
>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?

Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.

"Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>> >
>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>
>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>
>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>
> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.

Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I think you
have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this practice. My
condolences.

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd-20C5AE.19515428062008@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>> >>productive to do with their time.
>> >
>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>
>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>
> Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
> the opportunity to try it?



Opportunity??? Ask Willie Mays about opportunity. He made his own, is the
point.









If even a few of them like it and have the
> talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>
> --
> JD
>
> "...if you think the 'Star Wars' prequels are a disease, then
> 'Serenity' is the cure."

"Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
> news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>>> >
>>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>>
>>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
>>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>>
>> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.
>
> Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I think
> you have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this practice. My
> condolences.



Been watching too much Dr. Phil?? NOTHING annoys me more than someone who
reads two usenet posts, and thinks they have the right to judge someone's
""issues""




>
>

"Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:uOD9k.13318$mh5.9142@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
>> news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>>>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>>>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>>>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
>>>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>>>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>>>
>>> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.
>>
>> Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I think
>> you have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this practice. My
>> condolences.
>
>
>
> Been watching too much Dr. Phil?? NOTHING annoys me more than someone who
> reads two usenet posts, and thinks they have the right to judge someone's
> ""issues""

Well, then, let me explain your problems....<GRIN>

"Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:evidnfomRdFBgPrVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:uOD9k.13318$mh5.9142@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>
>>> "Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
>>> news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>>>>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>>>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>>>>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>>>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>>>>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>>>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
>>>>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>>>>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>>>>
>>>> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.
>>>
>>> Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I think
>>> you have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this practice. My
>>> condolences.
>>
>>
>>
>> Been watching too much Dr. Phil?? NOTHING annoys me more than someone who
>> reads two usenet posts, and thinks they have the right to judge someone's
>> ""issues""
>
> Well, then, let me explain your problems....<GRIN>
>



Go yourself, gasbag.







>

Why should it matter to anyone that Blacks are less interested in baseball
today vs 30 years ago? A better question would be how many Blacks buy
tickets to MLB games? I go to 5-10 MLB games a year in multiple venues and
different cities. A vast majority of Blacks I see in the park are working
there not taking in a game or taking in a game and buying a hot dog or beer.
MLB bread and butter is the white man and his family. They are the ones who
spend money on their enterprise and they are the people that MLB needs to
cater to not the Black.

A good case in point is the NBA. Why doesn't the NBA create an outreach
program for whites? 90% of the NBA is non-white
and comes from a background that I do not identify with. Combine that with
some of the behavior attributed to these
NBA personal gives me the notion that the NBA doesn't connect with me. Why
would I want to watch or participate in any NBA activity (e.g purchase
NBAgame tix)?

Where am I wrong?
"A Liberal's Worst Nightmare" <Relaxin@home.net> wrote in message
news:4866a9a4.37911468@news.datemas.de...
> Actually, there are black players but with the explosion of Latinos
> and the inclusion of Asians in baseball, the percentage of black
> players has decreased.
>
> This latest black whine is just business as usual. What else is new,
> that's just what they do. Whine, whine, whine about damn near
> everything.
>
> But the most aggravating thing is that pussy suck-up Bud Selig has
> instituted a black outreach program, to get more blacks interested in
> the game. Will the day ever come when blacks do something for
> themselves? Society leads them around like children, and they have
> come to expect it. With society's attitudes, they'll always remain in
> boyhood, perpetual "victims."

"Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:evidnfomRdFBgPrVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uOD9k.13318$mh5.9142@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
>>>> news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>>>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>>>>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>>>>>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>>>>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>>>>>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>>>>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>>>>>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I
>>>> think you have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this
>>>> practice. My condolences.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Been watching too much Dr. Phil?? NOTHING annoys me more than someone
>>> who reads two usenet posts, and thinks they have the right to judge
>>> someone's ""issues""
>>
>> Well, then, let me explain your problems....<GRIN>
>>
>
>
>
> Go yourself, gasbag.
>
You responded to a joke (notice the grin) with an insult. Amazing how fast
character can be revealed with just a couple of posts, isn't it?

LMAO

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22:31 -0400, "serveyerself"
<serveyerself@comcast.net> wrote:

> Why doesn't the NBA create an outreach
>program for whites?

Blacks complain that the recruitment of European players is the NBA's
attempt to appease whites.

In the ideal world, we would hire/promote the most capable people and
if they're all the same flavor, tough shit. The others would just
have to work harder to measure up.

I don't buy that. The White european players are being recriuted because
they canna make an outside jump shot, have a more defined game because they
are usually older than 18 yo
and they are more mature with less of a chance for off the court problems.
"A Liberal's Worst Nightmare" <Relaxin@home.net> wrote in message
news:4867a9ed.19672421@news.datemas.de...
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22:31 -0400, "serveyerself"
> <serveyerself@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Why doesn't the NBA create an outreach
>>program for whites?
>
> Blacks complain that the recruitment of European players is the NBA's
> attempt to appease whites.
>
> In the ideal world, we would hire/promote the most capable people and
> if they're all the same flavor, tough shit. The others would just
> have to work harder to measure up.

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> "Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Triple" <rhager4@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>>>>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>>>>>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good
>>>>>>>> >>with
>>>>>>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>>>>>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>>>>>>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>>>>>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
>>>>>>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I
>>>>> think you have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this
>>>>> practice. My condolences.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Been watching too much Dr. Phil?? NOTHING annoys me more than someone
>>>> who reads two usenet posts, and thinks they have the right to judge
>>>> someone's ""issues""
>>>
>>> Well, then, let me explain your problems....<GRIN>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Go yourself, gasbag.
>>
> You responded to a joke (notice the grin) with an insult. Amazing how fast
> character can be revealed with just a couple of posts, isn't it?
>
> LMAO



again you judge. I responded to the gasbag you had already shown yourself to
be.





>

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>>>>>> "Jack" <Windswept@Home> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4866f961.58324375@news-60.giganews.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:51:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>> <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>>>>>>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>>>>>>>>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good
>>>>>>>>> >>with
>>>>>>>>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>>>>>>>>> >>productive to do with their time.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about
>>>>>>>>> >the
>>>>>>>>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>>>>>>>>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Damn right. Let's lobby the NBA to do the same thing with Eskimoes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dude, I think pandering to race is the same as bigotry. However, I
>>>>>> think you have a issues deeper than the logical absurdity of this
>>>>>> practice. My condolences.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Been watching too much Dr. Phil?? NOTHING annoys me more than someone
>>>>> who reads two usenet posts, and thinks they have the right to judge
>>>>> someone's ""issues""
>>>>
>>>> Well, then, let me explain your problems....<GRIN>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Go yourself, gasbag.
>>>
>> You responded to a joke (notice the grin) with an insult. Amazing how
>> fast character can be revealed with just a couple of posts, isn't it?
>>
>> LMAO
>
>
>
> again you judge. I responded to the gasbag you had already shown yourself
> to be.
>
So, let me guess this straight, you judge me a 'gas bag' based on my
judgment of two posts by someone else but you made that judgment about me
based on only one post (because the latter didn't count) from me.

Hmmm. Interesting take on life, my friend.

A Liberal's Worst Nightmare wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22:31 -0400, "serveyerself"
> <serveyerself@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Why doesn't the NBA create an outreach
>> program for whites?
>
> Blacks complain that the recruitment of European players is the NBA's
> attempt to appease whites.
>
> In the ideal world, we would hire/promote the most capable people and
> if they're all the same flavor, tough shit. The others would just
> have to work harder to measure up.

Why is in any of you business what a business (MLB) does with its money?

How very Liberal of you :)

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> In article <ghfd641jjhrng38a2gr4gcfeh5ejj6prhe@4ax.com>,
> Scott Smith <scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:48 GMT, nospam@nospam (Nobama) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:57:45 -0500, Scott Smith
>> ><scott.smith@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sports outreach programs in poor communities
>> >>have been around for a long time, and have done a lot of good with
>> >>keeping many kids out of trouble by giving them something
>> >>productive to do with their time.
>> >
>> >As I understand it, Selig is caving-in to the complaints about the
>> >drop-off in black MLB players.
>>
>> I don't think instituting an outreach program is "caving in"
>> to anything. It's a harmless idea, IMO.
>
> Yeah, where's the harm in introducing baseball to those who haven't had
> the opportunity to try it? If even a few of them like it and have the
> talent, why not steal them away from the other sports?
>

I totally agree with you Jeanne. My son just recently completed his high
school baseball career. The game is being played at very high levels among
high schoolers. It's not cheap either. I have spent approximately $10,000 on
hitting and catching lessons over the past 3 years. Good instructors charge
$50 per 30 minutes of instruction.. Additionally, summer baseball fees run
anywhere from $1200 to $2400 per year, depending on how much traveling and
tournaments are involved. Baseball pants are $55 (times 4 - 2 gray - 2
white), belts ($5)/socks $6 per pair (times 3 to 6 depending on how many
colors are needed), aluminum bats are $400, wood bats are $80 (times 2 or
3), cleats are $70, helmets are $18, batting gloves are $30, shin guards are
$200, chest protector is $115, catchers helmet is $100.

The game has become an upper middle class American sport because lower
income kids are priced out. Kids can play basketball a lot less money.
Football is a little different because kids can enjoy the game by playing
flag football before they start high school. But my experience with inner
city parents is that they'sd rather spend the money on football than
baseball. Some inner cities run summer baseball programs that are free to
participants, but the availability of good coaching is still the biggest
roadblock to developing talent. I would sure like to see fewer baby kissing
bureaucrats on municipal payrolls replaced by paid parks and recreation
coaches.