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sv0f
05-25-2008, 08:35 PM
I've been thinking about the Bulls non-stop for the past few days. The
way I see it we have a collection of interesting frontcourt players
and a collection of question marks at guard.

Noah showed promise as a rookie. Gooden is an average starter and plus
backup, and he seems bulky enough to back up the center position.
Thomas has potential. Deng is above average. Nocioni is great off the
bench.

On the other hand, Gordon has proven himself to not be a starter in
this league. He's too short to play SG, to poor a passer to play PG.
Hinrich is a headcase. I actually have the most hope for him, but you
never know what you're getting from season to season. He seemed to
accept that last season was a lost season way to early and way to
easily. I question his heart. Sefolosha has promise, but will probably
never be more than a 12 point scorer in this league. Hughes shoots too
much but has some value in being able to play two positions. Only
Sefolosha seems to have a head on his shoulders. Gordon and Hughes
complain too much. And I've already gone over Hinrich's flaws.

This is the reason I lean towards Rose. We need stability in the
backcourt, from the PG position. He seems to be cut from the same
cloth as Deron Williams.

But let's assume for the moment that Paxson decides that Beasley is
also destined for superstardom. Then another option would be for us to
solve our PG problem via trade and build the team around Beasley in
the frontcourt. One PG that would do this is Calderon. He played at an
all-star level in Toronto while Ford was out -- amazing shooting
percentages and an even more amazing A/TO ratio. Plus he's a free
agent. The question is whether we have assets we can trade for
Calderon in a sign-and-trade.

I think we do. There names are Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich. Gordon is
a pretty good facsimile of Leandro Barbosa, and we all know a player
like that really thrives in the Phoenix-style offense that Colangelo
wants to duplicate in Toronto. The Raptors, it seems to me, need some
punch off the bench in the backcourt. Ford and Parker (who's hurt) as
the starters, with former 6th man of the year Gordon backing them up,
might be attractive. The other possibility is Hinrich. His stock is
undervalued right now, and Colangelo might find him an interesting
player. I don't know. I assume Toronto would have to throw in an extra
player for this to work moneywise. Garbajosa would be nice -- we could
use a big man who can pass.

If we could make such a trade happen, then I would feel comfortable
taking Beasley over Rose. Of course, this would leave is with too many
players, and we would still have to package a few of them up to reign
in the roster.

sv0f
05-26-2008, 01:52 AM
Just to be clear:
1. I was proposing either Gordon or Hinrich for Calderon, not
both.
2. I do know the difference between "too" and "to".

On May 25, 12:35 pm, sv0f <varm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been thinking about the Bulls non-stop for the past few days. The
> way I see it we have a collection of interesting frontcourt players
> and a collection of question marks at guard.
>
> Noah showed promise as a rookie. Gooden is an average starter and plus
> backup, and he seems bulky enough to back up the center position.
> Thomas has potential. Deng is above average. Nocioni is great off the
> bench.
>
> On the other hand, Gordon has proven himself to not be a starter in
> this league. He's too short to play SG, to poor a passer to play PG.
> Hinrich is a headcase. I actually have the most hope for him, but you
> never know what you're getting from season to season. He seemed to
> accept that last season was a lost season way to early and way to
> easily. I question his heart. Sefolosha has promise, but will probably
> never be more than a 12 point scorer in this league. Hughes shoots too
> much but has some value in being able to play two positions. Only
> Sefolosha seems to have a head on his shoulders. Gordon and Hughes
> complain too much. And I've already gone over Hinrich's flaws.
>
> This is the reason I lean towards Rose. We need stability in the
> backcourt, from the PG position. He seems to be cut from the same
> cloth as Deron Williams.
>
> But let's assume for the moment that Paxson decides that Beasley is
> also destined for superstardom. Then another option would be for us to
> solve our PG problem via trade and build the team around Beasley in
> the frontcourt. One PG that would do this is Calderon. He played at an
> all-star level in Toronto while Ford was out -- amazing shooting
> percentages and an even more amazing A/TO ratio. Plus he's a free
> agent. The question is whether we have assets we can trade for
> Calderon in a sign-and-trade.
>
> I think we do. There names are Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich. Gordon is
> a pretty good facsimile of Leandro Barbosa, and we all know a player
> like that really thrives in the Phoenix-style offense that Colangelo
> wants to duplicate in Toronto. The Raptors, it seems to me, need some
> punch off the bench in the backcourt. Ford and Parker (who's hurt) as
> the starters, with former 6th man of the year Gordon backing them up,
> might be attractive. The other possibility is Hinrich. His stock is
> undervalued right now, and Colangelo might find him an interesting
> player. I don't know. I assume Toronto would have to throw in an extra
> player for this to work moneywise. Garbajosa would be nice -- we could
> use a big man who can pass.
>
> If we could make such a trade happen, then I would feel comfortable
> taking Beasley over Rose. Of course, this would leave is with too many
> players, and we would still have to package a few of them up to reign
> in the roster.

Jon Jon
05-26-2008, 03:41 AM
Might wanna think about Noah's Court date first.

ImLittleJon
05-26-2008, 05:12 AM
On May 25, 5:52 pm, sv0f <varm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just to be clear:
>      1. I was proposing either Gordon or Hinrich for Calderon, not
> both.
>      2. I do know the difference between "too" and "to".

What about rain, reign, and rein? :-)