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Andrew Como wants to shut down Usenet. Verizon, Time Warner, and others
have agreed to limit Usenet access. Some are going so far as to eliminate
the entire alt.* hierarchy. This includes sports newsgroups. Write your
congressman, storm the governor's mansion, do something!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html
Raymond O'Hara 06-18-2008, 12:10 PM "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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> Andrew Como wants to shut down Usenet. Verizon, Time Warner, and others
> have agreed to limit Usenet access. Some are going so far as to eliminate
> the entire alt.* hierarchy. This includes sports newsgroups. Write your
> congressman, storm the governor's mansion, do something!
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html
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there is no law to overturn.
"Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
> news:X9idnUvBA647EMXVnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Andrew Como wants to shut down Usenet. Verizon, Time Warner, and others
>> have agreed to limit Usenet access. Some are going so far as to
>> eliminate the entire alt.* hierarchy. This includes sports newsgroups.
>> Write your congressman, storm the governor's mansion, do something!
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html
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> there is no law to overturn.
>
You need a law to overturn to storm the governer's mansion?
Don't be a dumbest. Bad legislation can be avoided if you make your opinion
heard.
"PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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>> there is no law to overturn.
>>
>
> You need a law to overturn to storm the governer's mansion?
>
> Don't be a dumbest. Bad legislation can be avoided if you make your
> opinion heard.
LOL! Spellchecker strikes again...
If you don't care about the alt.* hierarchy disappearing then do nothing.
Don't come crying to us when it happens. Oh that's right - you won't be
able to.
Think, act. Now.
Raymond O'Hara 06-19-2008, 07:37 PM "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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> "Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
>> news:X9idnUvBA647EMXVnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Andrew Como wants to shut down Usenet. Verizon, Time Warner, and others
>>> have agreed to limit Usenet access. Some are going so far as to
>>> eliminate the entire alt.* hierarchy. This includes sports newsgroups.
>>> Write your congressman, storm the governor's mansion, do something!
>>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html
>>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> there is no law to overturn.
>>
>
> You need a law to overturn to storm the governer's mansion?
>
> Don't be a dumbest. Bad legislation can be avoided if you make your
> opinion heard.
there is no legislation to overturn
its the carriers who are killing the net.
a law was passd in pennsylvania and it was overturned by the federal courts.
but in this case T-W, and other carriers are taking the oppurtunity to kill
off a place them make no money from.
wake up and smell the coffee.
"Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> wake up and smell the coffee.
That's right. Do nothing. I would be amazed if anyone would hire you. Say
goodbye to NGs, sour grapes boy.
>
Frawley 06-20-2008, 03:29 AM > "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote:
>>"Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> wake up and smell the coffee.
>
>That's right. Do nothing. I would be amazed if anyone would hire you. Say
>goodbye to NGs, sour grapes boy.
Dude, he's just making sense, and not being belligerent in the least.
NY AG applies some pressure and free-market opts to dump. It has
nothing to do with legislation, as he said. It's not legislative,
it's business. There is no prohibition. Adam Smith. That type of
thing. Storm the legislatures and execs all you want, but that ain't
where the rub is. You're ripping on someone who is trying to focus
your ample energy toward a productive use. Clear your head, dude.
My ISP is TWC Roadrunner. I don't really care if they dump usenet. I
was with AOL, and they dumped usenet. I'm still here. Usenet costs
these providers money and they're happy to bail. So you spend $4 to
sign-up for Agent or the like lifetime. That's half a fish fry. Go
ahead and tilt at windmills. I'm betting the marketplace figures it
out, but I would support a sensible move to rec. v. alt., even though
my opinion of this place is that it's for entertainment purpose only
and is a lousy place to discuss Packer football, relativelt speaking.
Your pal,
- Foote
"Frawley" <frawley411@aol.com> wrote in message
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> out, but I would support a sensible move to rec. v. alt., even though
Yeah that would actually be doing something.
> my opinion of this place is that it's for entertainment purpose only
> and is a lousy place to discuss Packer football, relativelt speaking.
>
Yet you keep coming back. You love us. What else do you recommend?
Duncan 06-22-2008, 01:27 AM "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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> Andrew Como wants to shut down Usenet. Verizon, Time Warner, and others
> have agreed to limit Usenet access. Some are going so far as to eliminate
> the entire alt.* hierarchy. This includes sports newsgroups. Write your
> congressman, storm the governor's mansion, do something!
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html
>
Well, after seeing all the slander, gossip, name-calling & antagonism on
usenet...... maybe killing it off isn't such a bad thing after all.
Something needs to be done in this country (USA) to make it more civil. The
current Slander/Defamation laws just aren't work. People just love The Jerry
Springer Show, Dr. Phil, the tabloid gossip, the character attacks common in
politics and on usenet... just look at your own responses to people who
disagree with you PC, you attack them personally instead of trying to
present a legitimate argument to support your cause. (and I just did it to
you as well).
Microsoft use to operate a gaming zone (www.zone.com) with full chat
features but they were over-ran with idiots insulting other people 'just for
fun'. It's still there but the chat features are gone. If I owned usenet it
would be gone too or at least moderated or requiring EVERYONE to be clearly
identified. This Slander/gossip/name-calling/antagonism Bullshit is
destroying our country; our civilization.
In ancient times... ancient Rome or Biblical Israel for example.... they
use to kill the rumormongers & antagonists. Here in the USA the average
citizen has virtually no protection what-so-ever. Yes, they can file a
Slander/Defamation of Character lawsuit (if you are not a TV celebrity or
politician) but good luck with that... everyone's life gets ruined with that
while the onlookers get their rocks off. "Oh I heard that, I heard this!!!!
I heard that too... it must be true then!!!!" People just love it. You fine
folks did it to Kordell Stewart in here... Ooh, He's Gay!!!! (even though he
isn't). You damaged that mans life and he'll have to live with that forever.
(I didn't want him to be the starting QB either but destroying/damaging
someone's life over it???
Now I don't want to hear this bullshit about 'Freedom of Speech'.... if
people are out there negatively intruding into other peoples lives by saying
things that aren't true (he's gay, she has aids, they're crackheads, she has
herpes .... go look at some of the websites set up by college kids) or
things that are merely designed to hurt other people, it needs to be
stopped. Then maybe we won't have 12 years olds on My Space committing
suicide because people said horrible untrue things about them that were
totally intended to injure & wound (Are you listening Flipper???)
All right, folks.... that's my opinion under free speech. You may begin the
person attacks and name-calling now.
billygoat@the.farm 06-22-2008, 02:55 AM On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:27:40 -0400, "Duncan" <Duncan@nospam.com>
wrote:
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>"PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
>news:X9idnUvBA647EMXVnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Andrew Como wants to shut down Usenet. Verizon, Time Warner, and others
>> have agreed to limit Usenet access. Some are going so far as to eliminate
>> the entire alt.* hierarchy. This includes sports newsgroups. Write your
>> congressman, storm the governor's mansion, do something!
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html
>>
>
>Well, after seeing all the slander, gossip, name-calling & antagonism on
>usenet...... maybe killing it off isn't such a bad thing after all.
>Something needs to be done in this country (USA) to make it more civil. The
>current Slander/Defamation laws just aren't work. People just love The Jerry
>Springer Show, Dr. Phil, the tabloid gossip, the character attacks common in
>politics and on usenet... just look at your own responses to people who
>disagree with you PC, you attack them personally instead of trying to
>present a legitimate argument to support your cause. (and I just did it to
>you as well).
> Microsoft use to operate a gaming zone (www.zone.com) with full chat
>features but they were over-ran with idiots insulting other people 'just for
>fun'. It's still there but the chat features are gone. If I owned usenet it
>would be gone too or at least moderated or requiring EVERYONE to be clearly
>identified. This Slander/gossip/name-calling/antagonism Bullshit is
>destroying our country; our civilization.
> In ancient times... ancient Rome or Biblical Israel for example.... they
>use to kill the rumormongers & antagonists. Here in the USA the average
>citizen has virtually no protection what-so-ever. Yes, they can file a
>Slander/Defamation of Character lawsuit (if you are not a TV celebrity or
>politician) but good luck with that... everyone's life gets ruined with that
>while the onlookers get their rocks off. "Oh I heard that, I heard this!!!!
>I heard that too... it must be true then!!!!" People just love it. You fine
>folks did it to Kordell Stewart in here... Ooh, He's Gay!!!! (even though he
>isn't). You damaged that mans life and he'll have to live with that forever.
>(I didn't want him to be the starting QB either but destroying/damaging
>someone's life over it???
> Now I don't want to hear this bullshit about 'Freedom of Speech'.... if
>people are out there negatively intruding into other peoples lives by saying
>things that aren't true (he's gay, she has aids, they're crackheads, she has
>herpes .... go look at some of the websites set up by college kids) or
>things that are merely designed to hurt other people, it needs to be
>stopped. Then maybe we won't have 12 years olds on My Space committing
>suicide because people said horrible untrue things about them that were
>totally intended to injure & wound (Are you listening Flipper???)
>
> All right, folks.... that's my opinion under free speech. You may begin the
>person attacks and name-calling now.
Well This is not the Forum to go into dept on this but you have to
realize what you speak of is censorship. Just look around the word.
just because some one or some thing is offensive to you does not mean
its offensive to some one else. Learn to ignore what you need to or
start a forum that you can moderate. But don't impose your views on
everyone else.
Remember when ever you take away someone's rights or tell them what
they cant do you inevitably give up you own rights as well. Its a
slippery slope. OBVIOUSLLY if laws are broken that's another thing.
The whole of a free society should dictate what's reasonable. Not the
moral minority or a minority group of any kind.
Its just plan dangerous and history as well as current events are full
of examples of how detrimental censoring and posing your will on
someone else is to a society, people and the word in general.
marika 06-26-2008, 01:54 AM "Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> wake up and smell the coffee.
>
That would have been something I would have
enjoyed, but do tell me more with the other festivals and events as they
come up. Thanks :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.gossip.chs97,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: first day of travelin song
> get to see the world and get paid for it??
>
> lucky airline attedants
>
> the part I don't get is why they have a minimum height requirements.
> You would think the shorter the better in a plane
>
> any ideas? thanks
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups:
> soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.australian,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: INTERNATIONAL STUFF - Obama-Wright Debacle | Kyiv's
> Cathedrals | NATO (Russia vs. Georgia)
>
>
>>
>> "Frank Kalder" <editor@haplif.de> wrote in message
>> news:1ababf17-15ab-4970-902d-3300e2b52503@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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>>
>> . NATO
>>
>>> Very important Nato story
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7375736.stm
>>>
>>> Russia warned over Georgia move
>>>
>>> Nato has warned Russia that its recent troop build-up in Georgia's two
>>> breakaway regions undermines its neighbour's territorial integrity.
>>> [...]
>>>
>> Yes, that's an interesting development with a parallel to the Kosovo
>> case.
>>>
>>
>>
>> ===============
>>
>> this happened about a week ago and may have been the cause of the above
>> actions by Nato
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7358761.stm
>>
>> Russia 'shot down Georgia drone'
>>
>> Georgia's air force commander shows footage that allegedly shows a
>> Russian aircraft shooting down the Georgian plane
>>
>> A Russian fighter jet has shot down an unmanned reconnaissance
>> aircraft over the breakaway Georgian region of Abkhazia, Georgian
>> authorities say.
>>
>> Georgia's defence ministry has released video showing what appears
>> to
>> be a Russian MiG-29 shooting down the unarmed Georgian drone on Sunday.
>>
>> A Russian air force spokesman said the claim was "nonsense" while
>> Abkhaz rebels said they had downed the drone.
>>
>> Russia's leader asked why a drone had been present in a "conflict
>> zone".
>>
>>
>>
>> President Vladimir Putin expressed his concern in a phone call to
>> Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili, the Kremlin reported.
>>
>> Mr Saakashvili himself went on Georgian TV to say he had
>> "categorically demanded [of Mr Putin]... that these aggressive attacks on
>> Georgia be stopped immediately".
>>
>> Tensions are high between the two neighbours over Russian support
>> for
>> Abkhazia and another breakaway Georgian region, South Ossetia.
>>
>> Russian and UN peacekeepers have been deployed in the two regions
>> since the early 1990s, when violence erupted as they broke free from
>> Georgian control.
>>
>> Tbilisi believes Moscow is fuelling the separatist conflict in
>> Abkhazia to maintain Russian influence in the region and to damage
>> Georgia's
>> hopes of joining Nato, the BBC's Matthew Collin reports from Georgia.
>>
>> 'Absolutely illegal'
>>
>> The video, shot from the drone moments before impact, shows a jet
>> launching a missile over what appears to be the Black Sea.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "It's absolutely illegal for a Russian MiG-29 to be there," said Col
>> David Nairashvili, the air force commander.
>>
>> "Russian military aircraft intruded into Georgian airspace above
>> Abkhazia, Georgia," said President Saakashvili on television.
>>
>> "This aircraft attacked and destroyed a Georgian UAV [Unmanned
>> Aerial
>> Vehicle]. Once again, Georgia was exercising [its] sovereign right to
>> monitor a situation on its own territory."
>>
>> Abkhazia's separatist administration has said its own forces shot
>> down
>> the drone because it was violating Abkhaz airspace and breaching
>> ceasefire
>> agreements.
>>
>> According to Russian reports from Sukhumi, the Abkhaz capital, the
>> authorities there have put on display fragments of the drone.
>>
>> Garry Kupalba, deputy defence minister of the unrecognised Republic
>> of
>> Abkhazia, told reporters the drone had been shot down by an "L-39
>> aircraft
>> of the Abkhaz Air Force".
>>
>> He also identified the drone as an Israeli-made Hermes 450.
>>
>> 'Destabilising'
>>
>> President Putin viewed the presence of the drone as a "destabilising
>> factor escalating tension", the Kremlin said.
>>
>> "During an examination of the incident with the Georgian unmanned
>> plane, Vladimir Putin expressed his perplexity over the fact that the
>> Georgian side is organising military flights over a conflict zone," it
>> added.
>>
>> A Russian air force spokesman said: "What would a Russian jet
>> fighter
>> be doing over Georgian territory?"
>>
>> Last week, Georgia accused Russia of trying to annex Abkhazia and
>> South Ossetia by deciding to seek closer ties with them.
>>
>> Russia has said its proposal is aimed at protecting the rights and
>> legal interests of Russian citizens, who make up the majority of the
>> population in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
>>
>> Earlier this month, Nato decided not to grant Georgia's request to
>> join its Membership Action Plan but promised it would eventually become a
>> member of the alliance.
>>
>>
>>
>
marika 06-26-2008, 01:56 AM "Frawley" <frawley411@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Dude, he's just making sense, and not being belligerent in the least.
Sure!
mk5000
"what we could do, oh, if they just knew.
I know it's sad that I never gave a damn about the weather,
and it never gave a damn about me.
I know it's sad that I never gave a damn about the weather"--do you know
what I am seeing, panic at the disco
marika 06-26-2008, 02:03 AM "Duncan" <Duncan@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In ancient times... ancient Rome or Biblical Israel for example.... they
> use to kill the rumormongers & antagonists.
Perfect.
mk5000
"As the final words before I'm dead and gone
You've never been so divine
In accepting your defeat
And I've never been more scared to be alone "--panic at the disco, folkin
around
"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Duncan" <Duncan@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> In ancient times... ancient Rome or Biblical Israel for example.... they
>> use to kill the rumormongers & antagonists.
>
> Perfect.
>
Sorry to see you are going to be killed.
marika 06-27-2008, 01:24 AM "PC" <PC@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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> "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Duncan" <Duncan@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>
>>
>>> In ancient times... ancient Rome or Biblical Israel for example.... they
>>> use to kill the rumormongers & antagonists.
>>
>> Perfect.
>>
>
> Sorry to see you are going to be killed.
you are not sorry at all
mk5000
"I've already given up on myself twice,
third time is the charm, third time is the charm,
threw caution-to the wind but I've got a lousy arm,
and I traced your shadows on the wall, "---ginasfs 360 lame, fallout boy
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