Hi, Colts fans. I'm a big fan of the Indianapolis Colts, and a few
years back or so I decided to join a forum to share discussion about
the Blue & White with other fans.

The first forum I joined was the IndyStar board. Riddled with
Patriots trolls and cliques ready to pounce with an attack at any
moment. In fact, it was a nasty mob of Patriot trolls and Colts
sympathizers that made my several-month long participation a less-than
pleasant one. So, I looked for another board I might enjoy more.

I joined the Colts.com forum. Overall, I enjoyed this board, though
there, again, were some elements - including more Patriots trolls -
that weren't there to enjoy talking about the Colts. But, still,
considering that the Patriots are the Colts chief rival and that the
team has legions of fans online, the level of their participation was
reasonable and overall, I liked it there.

I'm a independently-mindled free spirit, so on occasion, I will post
thoughts out of the mainstream. I don't hold back my opinions (though
I don't intend to be an irritant), and ultimately, I was permanently
banned for posting comments in such fashion.

Around play-off time this year, I was a bit irritated by the
approximately two-week patter about whether Tony Dungy would retire or
not. I found it a distraction when the Colts and their fans should be
focused on a run to the Super Bowl.

As speculation and media focus on what his decision might be dragged
on, and after the Colts made their early exit from the playoffs, I
became increasingly annoyed by it all. When Dungy said he'd do this
annually, my attitude about him reflected my annoyance to a degree -
though I'm a big Dungy fan otherwise - so when on top of it all news
broke that Dungy's wife and kids would move to live in Florida, apart
from him, this whole attention-grabbing affair began to irritate me
even more.

Dungy's a great coach. But, hey, does anyone else sense he has a bit
of a messiah-complex? A holier-than-thou sense of self? He does his
All-Pro Dad thing, which, led by Tony, preaches to others publicly
that fathers should be more involved in their childrens lives.

Dungy's children, and wife, were moving to live apart from Dungy. Not
only in another residence, but in an entirely diffrent state and
region of the country. He has young, school-age children, who would
no longer have a father in the house to interact with, who would no
longer have a dad to help with their homework, or to snuggle for a
Saturday morning cartoon. Yet, at that time, there were commercials
by the preaching Dungy for his All-Pro Dad's mission of encouraging
fathers to find time for their kids. Does anyone else see the
hypocrisy here?

Well, Indianapolis Star sports columnist Bob Kravitz did, and he wrote
a respectful article about it. The community reaction was swift and
severe, leading to the newspaper's editor to even write an editorial
in response to the reaction (he supported Kravitz's right to a
respectful opinion).

Well, I wrote similar comments in the Colts.com forum, taking effort
to be sincere, respectful, but offering my impressions and doubts
about Dungy, at least in this regard. Doing so got me permanently
banned by a forum moderator. I suddenly was no longer able to log-in,
as attempts to do so prompted a blocking message that I had maligned
"our" beloved coach with comments serving a personal agenda. No
warning, no suspension, but a permanent ban.

Not one to be stifled for respectfully posting a sincere opinion, I
didn't even try to appeal the ban.

After a break from discussing the Colts in a forum, I joined an
upstart new community called MyColts.net, which I'm still a member.
It has its problems, too, though, with little forum activity being the
primary one.

I do like the moderators, though, for I've found them to be reasonably-
minded and not inclined to over-react. Maybe it will eventually catch
on. Though, just today, a post of mine was removed - probably
justifiably - since it was titled "Off-Topic: xxx", and referred to
news not directly associated to the Colts. It was my first off-topic
post. Apparently, they're trying to keep things on topic there, which
is fine. As I said, I have no problem with how that forum is being
moderated so far.

But, seeing my post gone with not even a message to me in private or
otherwise, I realized I might be happier in a forum with limited
moderation. I want to be free! :)

So, I searched Google Groups to find a Colts discussion group, which
led me here. This forum isn't well attended, obviously, but I'm here
to try to change all that. The similar Patriots board had 500+
members, and the Chargers board 300+, and both had recent timely posts
of interest for fans of those teams. This is not true of this Colts
board, but hey, let's change that!

So, if you happen to see this and you're a Colts fan, please try to
help get this thing going. Let's make this a place of interest for
Colts fans to share discussion of the Colts.

Sincerely,
Paul Polian

Go Colts!

Paul.Polian@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, Colts fans. I'm a big fan of the Indianapolis Colts, and a few
> years back or so I decided to join a forum to share discussion about
> the Blue & White with other fans.
>
> The first forum I joined was the IndyStar board. Riddled with
> Patriots trolls and cliques ready to pounce with an attack at any
> moment. In fact, it was a nasty mob of Patriot trolls and Colts
> sympathizers that made my several-month long participation a less-than
> pleasant one. So, I looked for another board I might enjoy more.
>
> I joined the Colts.com forum. Overall, I enjoyed this board, though
> there, again, were some elements - including more Patriots trolls -
> that weren't there to enjoy talking about the Colts. But, still,
> considering that the Patriots are the Colts chief rival and that the
> team has legions of fans online, the level of their participation was
> reasonable and overall, I liked it there.
>
> I'm a independently-mindled free spirit, so on occasion, I will post
> thoughts out of the mainstream. I don't hold back my opinions (though
> I don't intend to be an irritant), and ultimately, I was permanently
> banned for posting comments in such fashion.
>
> Around play-off time this year, I was a bit irritated by the
> approximately two-week patter about whether Tony Dungy would retire or
> not. I found it a distraction when the Colts and their fans should be
> focused on a run to the Super Bowl.
>
> As speculation and media focus on what his decision might be dragged
> on, and after the Colts made their early exit from the playoffs, I
> became increasingly annoyed by it all. When Dungy said he'd do this
> annually, my attitude about him reflected my annoyance to a degree -
> though I'm a big Dungy fan otherwise - so when on top of it all news
> broke that Dungy's wife and kids would move to live in Florida, apart
> from him, this whole attention-grabbing affair began to irritate me
> even more.
>
> Dungy's a great coach. But, hey, does anyone else sense he has a bit
> of a messiah-complex? A holier-than-thou sense of self? He does his
> All-Pro Dad thing, which, led by Tony, preaches to others publicly
> that fathers should be more involved in their childrens lives.
>
> Dungy's children, and wife, were moving to live apart from Dungy. Not
> only in another residence, but in an entirely diffrent state and
> region of the country. He has young, school-age children, who would
> no longer have a father in the house to interact with, who would no
> longer have a dad to help with their homework, or to snuggle for a
> Saturday morning cartoon. Yet, at that time, there were commercials
> by the preaching Dungy for his All-Pro Dad's mission of encouraging
> fathers to find time for their kids. Does anyone else see the
> hypocrisy here?
>
> Well, Indianapolis Star sports columnist Bob Kravitz did, and he wrote
> a respectful article about it. The community reaction was swift and
> severe, leading to the newspaper's editor to even write an editorial
> in response to the reaction (he supported Kravitz's right to a
> respectful opinion).
>
> Well, I wrote similar comments in the Colts.com forum, taking effort
> to be sincere, respectful, but offering my impressions and doubts
> about Dungy, at least in this regard. Doing so got me permanently
> banned by a forum moderator. I suddenly was no longer able to log-in,
> as attempts to do so prompted a blocking message that I had maligned
> "our" beloved coach with comments serving a personal agenda. No
> warning, no suspension, but a permanent ban.
>
> Not one to be stifled for respectfully posting a sincere opinion, I
> didn't even try to appeal the ban.
>
> After a break from discussing the Colts in a forum, I joined an
> upstart new community called MyColts.net, which I'm still a member.
> It has its problems, too, though, with little forum activity being the
> primary one.
>
> I do like the moderators, though, for I've found them to be reasonably-
> minded and not inclined to over-react. Maybe it will eventually catch
> on. Though, just today, a post of mine was removed - probably
> justifiably - since it was titled "Off-Topic: xxx", and referred to
> news not directly associated to the Colts. It was my first off-topic
> post. Apparently, they're trying to keep things on topic there, which
> is fine. As I said, I have no problem with how that forum is being
> moderated so far.
>
> But, seeing my post gone with not even a message to me in private or
> otherwise, I realized I might be happier in a forum with limited
> moderation. I want to be free! :)
>
> So, I searched Google Groups to find a Colts discussion group, which
> led me here. This forum isn't well attended, obviously, but I'm here
> to try to change all that. The similar Patriots board had 500+
> members, and the Chargers board 300+, and both had recent timely posts
> of interest for fans of those teams. This is not true of this Colts
> board, but hey, let's change that!
>
> So, if you happen to see this and you're a Colts fan, please try to
> help get this thing going. Let's make this a place of interest for
> Colts fans to share discussion of the Colts.
>
> Sincerely,
> Paul Polian
>
> Go Colts!

sorry, but your attempt may be futile, as others seem to rather enjoy
those other boards you mentioned, I've followed this Usenet group (it's
not a Google group) for years, and there are only a handful of
contributors during the season, and of course the Patsy trolls when we
getting any where near playing them....Go Colts!

On May 14, 1:48 pm, SG <spaamtrap...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Paul.Pol...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi, Colts fans.  I'm a big fan of the Indianapolis Colts, and a few
> > years back or so I decided to join a forum to share discussion about
> > the Blue & White with other fans.
>
> > The first forum I joined was the IndyStar board.  Riddled with
> > Patriots trolls and cliques ready to pounce with an attack at any
> > moment.  In fact, it was a nasty mob of Patriot trolls and Colts
> > sympathizers that made my several-month long participation a less-than
> > pleasant one.  So, I looked for another board I might enjoy more.
>
> > I joined the Colts.com forum.  Overall, I enjoyed this board, though
> > there, again, were some elements - including more Patriots trolls -
> > that weren't there to enjoy talking about the Colts.  But, still,
> > considering that the Patriots are the Colts chief rival and that the
> > team has legions of fans online, the level of their participation was
> > reasonable and overall, I liked it there.
>
> > I'm a independently-mindled free spirit, so on occasion, I will post
> > thoughts out of the mainstream.  I don't hold back my opinions (though
> > I don't intend to be an irritant), and ultimately, I was permanently
> > banned for posting comments in such fashion.
>
> > Around play-off time this year, I was a bit irritated by the
> > approximately two-week patter about whether Tony Dungy would retire or
> > not. I found it a distraction when the Colts and their fans should be
> > focused on a run to the Super Bowl.
>
> > As speculation and media focus on what his decision might be dragged
> > on, and after the Colts made their early exit from the playoffs, I
> > became increasingly annoyed by it all.  When Dungy said he'd do this
> > annually, my attitude about him reflected my annoyance to a degree -
> > though I'm a big Dungy fan otherwise - so when on top of it all news
> > broke that Dungy's wife and kids would move to live in Florida, apart
> > from him, this whole attention-grabbing affair began to irritate me
> > even more.
>
> > Dungy's a great coach.  But, hey, does anyone else sense he has a bit
> > of a messiah-complex?  A holier-than-thou sense of self?  He does his
> > All-Pro Dad thing, which, led by Tony, preaches to others publicly
> > that fathers should be more involved in their childrens lives.
>
> > Dungy's children, and wife, were moving to live apart from Dungy.  Not
> > only in another residence, but in an entirely diffrent state and
> > region of the country.  He has young, school-age children, who would
> > no longer have a father in the house to interact with, who would no
> > longer have a dad to help with their homework, or to snuggle for a
> > Saturday morning cartoon.  Yet, at that time, there were commercials
> > by the preaching Dungy for his All-Pro Dad's mission of encouraging
> > fathers to find time for their kids.  Does anyone else see the
> > hypocrisy here?
>
> > Well, Indianapolis Star sports columnist Bob Kravitz did, and he wrote
> > a respectful article about it.  The community reaction was swift and
> > severe, leading to the newspaper's editor to even write an editorial
> > in response to the reaction (he supported Kravitz's right to a
> > respectful opinion).
>
> > Well, I wrote similar comments in the Colts.com forum, taking effort
> > to be sincere, respectful, but offering my impressions and doubts
> > about Dungy, at least in this regard.  Doing so got me permanently
> > banned by a forum moderator.  I suddenly was no longer able to log-in,
> > as attempts to do so prompted a blocking message that I had maligned
> > "our" beloved coach with comments serving a personal agenda.  No
> > warning, no suspension, but a permanent ban.
>
> > Not one to be stifled for respectfully posting a sincere opinion, I
> > didn't even try to appeal the ban.
>
> > After a break from discussing the Colts in a forum, I joined an
> > upstart new community called MyColts.net, which I'm still a member.
> > It has its problems, too, though, with little forum activity being the
> > primary one.
>
> > I do like the moderators, though, for I've found them to be reasonably-
> > minded and not inclined to over-react.  Maybe it will eventually catch
> > on.  Though, just today, a post of mine was removed - probably
> > justifiably - since it was titled "Off-Topic: xxx", and referred to
> > news not directly associated to the Colts.  It was my first off-topic
> > post.  Apparently, they're trying to keep things on topic there, which
> > is fine.  As I said, I have no problem with how that forum is being
> > moderated so far.
>
> > But, seeing my post gone with not even a message to me in private or
> > otherwise, I realized I might be happier in a forum with limited
> > moderation.  I want to be free! :)
>
> > So, I searched Google Groups to find a Colts discussion group, which
> > led me here.  This forum isn't well attended, obviously, but I'm here
> > to try to change all that.  The similar Patriots board had  500+
> > members, and the Chargers board 300+, and both had recent timely posts
> > of interest for fans of those teams.  This is not true of this Colts
> > board, but hey, let's change that!
>
> > So, if you happen to see this and you're a Colts fan, please try to
> > help get this thing going.  Let's make this a place of interest for
> > Colts fans to share discussion of the Colts.
>
> > Sincerely,
> > Paul Polian
>
> > Go Colts!
>
> sorry, but your attempt may be futile, as others seem to rather enjoy
> those other boards you mentioned, I've followed this Usenet group (it's
> not a Google group) for years, and there are only a handful of
> contributors during the season, and of course the Patsy trolls when we
> getting any where near playing them....Go Colts!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're probably right. Oh well.

Like I said earlier, I actually liked the Colts.com board for the most
part (but didn't like the IndyStar board much at all). Since I've
been banned from the board I liked (as I said, I wasn't a trouble-
maker at all, but just posted one thoughtful post questioning Tony
Dungy), I'm sort of without a forum still, though I do go to
MyColts.net. I've been there - off and on - for about three months
now, and it's just not taking off. Very little activity, and the site
has other negatives, such as mailboxes filled with nonsense (I guess
it's trying to emulate Facebook).

If it's going to be futile trying to get this place active, I might
just look around for another board entirely.

So, do you go to any other forum? Why here?

Paul.Polian@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 14, 1:48 pm, SG <spaamtrap...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Paul.Pol...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hi, Colts fans. I'm a big fan of the Indianapolis Colts, and a few
>>> years back or so I decided to join a forum to share discussion about
>>> the Blue & White with other fans.
>>> The first forum I joined was the IndyStar board. Riddled with
>>> Patriots trolls and cliques ready to pounce with an attack at any
>>> moment. In fact, it was a nasty mob of Patriot trolls and Colts
>>> sympathizers that made my several-month long participation a less-than
>>> pleasant one. So, I looked for another board I might enjoy more.
>>> I joined the Colts.com forum. Overall, I enjoyed this board, though
>>> there, again, were some elements - including more Patriots trolls -
>>> that weren't there to enjoy talking about the Colts. But, still,
>>> considering that the Patriots are the Colts chief rival and that the
>>> team has legions of fans online, the level of their participation was
>>> reasonable and overall, I liked it there.
>>> I'm a independently-mindled free spirit, so on occasion, I will post
>>> thoughts out of the mainstream. I don't hold back my opinions (though
>>> I don't intend to be an irritant), and ultimately, I was permanently
>>> banned for posting comments in such fashion.
>>> Around play-off time this year, I was a bit irritated by the
>>> approximately two-week patter about whether Tony Dungy would retire or
>>> not. I found it a distraction when the Colts and their fans should be
>>> focused on a run to the Super Bowl.
>>> As speculation and media focus on what his decision might be dragged
>>> on, and after the Colts made their early exit from the playoffs, I
>>> became increasingly annoyed by it all. When Dungy said he'd do this
>>> annually, my attitude about him reflected my annoyance to a degree -
>>> though I'm a big Dungy fan otherwise - so when on top of it all news
>>> broke that Dungy's wife and kids would move to live in Florida, apart
>>> from him, this whole attention-grabbing affair began to irritate me
>>> even more.
>>> Dungy's a great coach. But, hey, does anyone else sense he has a bit
>>> of a messiah-complex? A holier-than-thou sense of self? He does his
>>> All-Pro Dad thing, which, led by Tony, preaches to others publicly
>>> that fathers should be more involved in their childrens lives.
>>> Dungy's children, and wife, were moving to live apart from Dungy. Not
>>> only in another residence, but in an entirely diffrent state and
>>> region of the country. He has young, school-age children, who would
>>> no longer have a father in the house to interact with, who would no
>>> longer have a dad to help with their homework, or to snuggle for a
>>> Saturday morning cartoon. Yet, at that time, there were commercials
>>> by the preaching Dungy for his All-Pro Dad's mission of encouraging
>>> fathers to find time for their kids. Does anyone else see the
>>> hypocrisy here?
>>> Well, Indianapolis Star sports columnist Bob Kravitz did, and he wrote
>>> a respectful article about it. The community reaction was swift and
>>> severe, leading to the newspaper's editor to even write an editorial
>>> in response to the reaction (he supported Kravitz's right to a
>>> respectful opinion).
>>> Well, I wrote similar comments in the Colts.com forum, taking effort
>>> to be sincere, respectful, but offering my impressions and doubts
>>> about Dungy, at least in this regard. Doing so got me permanently
>>> banned by a forum moderator. I suddenly was no longer able to log-in,
>>> as attempts to do so prompted a blocking message that I had maligned
>>> "our" beloved coach with comments serving a personal agenda. No
>>> warning, no suspension, but a permanent ban.
>>> Not one to be stifled for respectfully posting a sincere opinion, I
>>> didn't even try to appeal the ban.
>>> After a break from discussing the Colts in a forum, I joined an
>>> upstart new community called MyColts.net, which I'm still a member.
>>> It has its problems, too, though, with little forum activity being the
>>> primary one.
>>> I do like the moderators, though, for I've found them to be reasonably-
>>> minded and not inclined to over-react. Maybe it will eventually catch
>>> on. Though, just today, a post of mine was removed - probably
>>> justifiably - since it was titled "Off-Topic: xxx", and referred to
>>> news not directly associated to the Colts. It was my first off-topic
>>> post. Apparently, they're trying to keep things on topic there, which
>>> is fine. As I said, I have no problem with how that forum is being
>>> moderated so far.
>>> But, seeing my post gone with not even a message to me in private or
>>> otherwise, I realized I might be happier in a forum with limited
>>> moderation. I want to be free! :)
>>> So, I searched Google Groups to find a Colts discussion group, which
>>> led me here. This forum isn't well attended, obviously, but I'm here
>>> to try to change all that. The similar Patriots board had 500+
>>> members, and the Chargers board 300+, and both had recent timely posts
>>> of interest for fans of those teams. This is not true of this Colts
>>> board, but hey, let's change that!
>>> So, if you happen to see this and you're a Colts fan, please try to
>>> help get this thing going. Let's make this a place of interest for
>>> Colts fans to share discussion of the Colts.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Paul Polian
>>> Go Colts!
>> sorry, but your attempt may be futile, as others seem to rather enjoy
>> those other boards you mentioned, I've followed this Usenet group (it's
>> not a Google group) for years, and there are only a handful of
>> contributors during the season, and of course the Patsy trolls when we
>> getting any where near playing them....Go Colts!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You're probably right. Oh well.
>
> Like I said earlier, I actually liked the Colts.com board for the most
> part (but didn't like the IndyStar board much at all). Since I've
> been banned from the board I liked (as I said, I wasn't a trouble-
> maker at all, but just posted one thoughtful post questioning Tony
> Dungy), I'm sort of without a forum still, though I do go to
> MyColts.net. I've been there - off and on - for about three months
> now, and it's just not taking off. Very little activity, and the site
> has other negatives, such as mailboxes filled with nonsense (I guess
> it's trying to emulate Facebook).
>
> If it's going to be futile trying to get this place active, I might
> just look around for another board entirely.
>
> So, do you go to any other forum? Why here?


no, I just can't stand web based forums

On May 14, 5:37 pm, SG <spaamtrap...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> no, I just can't stand web based forums- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, I'm coming to the same conclusion. Coincidentally, I've
encountered a few new annoyances just today web-based forums. At one,
a post was deleted because I shared a published article by someone
else, although I clearly labeled it as such, including providing the
source, the author, publication date and a web-link to the original
story. I was told I could only mention a few paragraphs about it.
Hmmm.

I know the technicalities of publishing another's article without
legal permission, but in this day and age in the internet, those are
very rarely exactly followed. I don't think anyone is going to
protest it when I've done it on a discussion forum, and not for
commercial publication, but I guess I won't be doing it any more.

The other issue is that I joined a political-related forum, and my
registration went through fine, but even after several days, my
account is still not approved by the forum moderators, the final step
which allows me to post and respond to others. I can't even ask them
about a timeframe, for I can't message them, and the only way to do so
is with a link (which requires that ability to post messages).

So, I think I'm becoming similarly minded to your aversion to web-
based forums.

What are the reasons you don't like them?