Lam's a proven winner and knows how to coach.

Doug Collins recently turned down the offer to coach the Chicago Bulls
the other day, rumor has it that he'll get an invite by Dumars for an
interview. Collins IMO, is the top candidate to coach such talent that
we have now. Doug's a tough disciplinarian. He could instill the hard
knocked work ethic this team lacks.

Michael Curry in all honesty has no credentials!

Terry Porter was a good coach in Milwakuee but he's been a part of the
failed Pistons teams the past two seasons and isn't worth the risk!

Cowans is certain to look up a connection to the Celtics after this
season.

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> Lam's a proven winner and knows how to coach.
>
> Doug Collins recently turned down the offer to coach the Chicago Bulls
> the other day, rumor has it that he'll get an invite by Dumars for an
> interview. Collins IMO, is the top candidate to coach such talent that
> we have now. Doug's a tough disciplinarian. He could instill the hard
> knocked work ethic this team lacks.
>
> Michael Curry in all honesty has no credentials!
>
> Terry Porter was a good coach in Milwakuee but he's been a part of the
> failed Pistons teams the past two seasons and isn't worth the risk!
>
> Cowans is certain to look up a connection to the Celtics after this
> season.

Doug Collins isn't coming here, and good. He said Chicago was his only
option and when that fell apart he was done. Honestly he has had his shot
and bringing him back would be just recycling retreads. No thanks. And as
much as I like Laimbeer I would prefer the Pistons not be his first NBA
coaching job. At least Curry has some experience dealing with NBA players at
a coaching level. Though I would prefer a wider search.

On Jun 7, 9:39 am, "GM Collins" <buur11@**gmail.co*m> wrote:

> Doug Collins isn't coming here, and good. He said Chicago was his only
> option and when that fell apart he was done. Honestly he has had his shot
> and bringing him back would be just recycling retreads. No thanks. And as
> much as I like Laimbeer I would prefer the Pistons not be his first NBA
> coaching job. At least Curry has some experience dealing with NBA players at
> a coaching level. Though I would prefer a wider search.

I think that there are coaches who can hold our status quo, elevate
our status quo, and destroy our status quo.

Carlisle elevated our quo to its current level, Saunders kept it, and
Larry Brown elevated it in between for a title.

If Saunders is not enough, I am hard pressed to see how Collins would
be.

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:39:31 GMT, "GM Collins" <buur11@**gmail.co*m>
wrote:

>
>> Lam's a proven winner and knows how to coach.
>>
>> Doug Collins recently turned down the offer to coach the Chicago Bulls
>> the other day, rumor has it that he'll get an invite by Dumars for an
>> interview. Collins IMO, is the top candidate to coach such talent that
>> we have now. Doug's a tough disciplinarian. He could instill the hard
>> knocked work ethic this team lacks.
>>
>> Michael Curry in all honesty has no credentials!
>>
>> Terry Porter was a good coach in Milwakuee but he's been a part of the
>> failed Pistons teams the past two seasons and isn't worth the risk!
>>
>> Cowans is certain to look up a connection to the Celtics after this
>> season.
>
>Doug Collins isn't coming here, and good. He said Chicago was his only
>option and when that fell apart he was done. Honestly he has had his shot
>and bringing him back would be just recycling retreads. No thanks. And as
>much as I like Laimbeer I would prefer the Pistons not be his first NBA
>coaching job. At least Curry has some experience dealing with NBA players at
>a coaching level. Though I would prefer a wider search.


Doug Collins wasn't hired in Chicago for one reason, Flip Saunders.
Flip will be the next coach of Chicago.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:18:32 -0700 (PDT), remysun2000@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Jun 7, 9:39 am, "GM Collins" <buur11@**gmail.co*m> wrote:
>
>> Doug Collins isn't coming here, and good. He said Chicago was his only
>> option and when that fell apart he was done. Honestly he has had his shot
>> and bringing him back would be just recycling retreads. No thanks. And as
>> much as I like Laimbeer I would prefer the Pistons not be his first NBA
>> coaching job. At least Curry has some experience dealing with NBA players at
>> a coaching level. Though I would prefer a wider search.
>
>I think that there are coaches who can hold our status quo, elevate
>our status quo, and destroy our status quo.
>
>Carlisle elevated our quo to its current level, Saunders kept it, and
>Larry Brown elevated it in between for a title.
>
>If Saunders is not enough, I am hard pressed to see how Collins would
>be.


I think there are only a few NBA coaches who are proven winners. Phil
Jackson, Greg Popovich and Pat Riley. Since the Pistons have no chance
to get any of these coaches, we may as well hire Curry and see if we
can develop him into a winning coach. Otherwise, we'll just be hiring
a retread.

Brian-I think there are only a few NBA coaches who are proven winners.
Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich and Pat Riley. Since the Pistons have no
chance to get any of these coaches, we may as well hire Curry and see if
we can develop him into a winning coach. Otherwise, we'll just be hiring
a retread.

Rdjio- Jackson rode the coat tail of talent! He had MJ after Doug
Collins had built him and the Bulls team. Jackson also enjoyed the
talent of both Shaq and Bryant which gained him more rings. When the
Pistons defused them and Shaq left, he left!!! Comes back and is simply
blessed with the acqusition of Paul Gasol, whom without the Lakers
wouldn't be threatening again. Riley also rode the coat tail of talent.
Shaq, Magic etc....what's he done this season? Failed miserably!!! Pop,
I'll give you because he can coach should he hold a talented bunch or a
mere blend.

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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:34:37 -0400, AnitaCotillier@webtv.net (Anita
Darling) wrote:

>Brian-I think there are only a few NBA coaches who are proven winners.
>Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich and Pat Riley. Since the Pistons have no
>chance to get any of these coaches, we may as well hire Curry and see if
>we can develop him into a winning coach. Otherwise, we'll just be hiring
>a retread.
>
>Rdjio- Jackson rode the coat tail of talent! He had MJ after Doug
>Collins had built him and the Bulls team. Jackson also enjoyed the
>talent of both Shaq and Bryant which gained him more rings. When the
>Pistons defused them and Shaq left, he left!!! Comes back and is simply
>blessed with the acqusition of Paul Gasol, whom without the Lakers
>wouldn't be threatening again. Riley also rode the coat tail of talent.
>Shaq, Magic etc....what's he done this season? Failed miserably!!! Pop,
>I'll give you because he can coach should he hold a talented bunch or a
>mere blend.
>


But the fact is that Riley and Jackson won when they had the talent to
do so. THAT'S what I want the next Piston coach to do, get the MOST
out of any talent we have.

On Jun 7, 1:25 pm, Brian Matthews <nooneca...@ddd.com> wrote:

> But the fact is that Riley and Jackson won when they had the talent to
> do so. THAT'S what I want the next Piston coach to do, get the MOST
> out of any talent we have.

Agreed. We want an elevator, so to speak. I think of Phil and Pat as
keepers of quo-- they had superstars to thank for their success, and
even then, Phil knew he was outclassed in 2004. Pat Riley has proven a
tougher coach in that regard.

On Jun 7, 1:39 pm, remysun2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jun 7, 1:25 pm, Brian Matthews <nooneca...@ddd.com> wrote:
>
> > But the fact is that Riley and Jackson won when they had the talent to
> > do so. THAT'S what I want the next Piston coach to do, get the MOST
> > out of any talent we have.
>
> Agreed. We want an elevator, so to speak. I think of Phil and Pat as
> keepers of quo-- they had superstars to thank for their success, and
> even then, Phil knew he was outclassed in 2004. Pat Riley has proven a
> tougher coach in that regard.

I don't get the whole" They had so and so... and that's why the coach
was successful" notion. No coach wins without a great team...

Were the Shaq and Kobe Lakers winning rings before Phil?
Were the Bulls winning rings before Phil?
A talented team is a requirement.. Phil turned those teams into
winners and got Shaq and Kobe(for at least for three seasons) playing
as a unit. Yes, the leadership and pure greatness of MJ and Pippen has
a lot to do with it. However, it's the PLAYERS that play. People make
it sound like they'd expect Phil to win with a bunch of scrubs...

Now as for Pat... He still had to be a good enough coach to not get in
the way of greatness and implement a system that worked.

Brian Matthews wrote:
>
> Doug Collins wasn't hired in Chicago for one reason, Flip Saunders.


I think the one reason is a one word answer... money.

Riley rode the crescent wave of great talent, that's ALL!!!

If not for Magic Johnson you wouldn't know this guys name. ON the
entire East coast Pat's had no success and has only loss more strands of
hair along with games. Van Gundy was set to win with Shaq and what does
Pat do? Gets rid of Van Gundy because he smelled blood in the water and
wanted the championship which the Heat were destined to win for himself.
Following season he fell like a stack of wheat thins to the floor. This
guy can't coach! He's a mere opportunist!!! Jackson the same.
Rode out what Doug Collins had built in Chicago and rode a wave with
Shaq and Bryant who'd have won championships without him.
When Jordan came back as a player with Washington who did he seek out?
Doug Collins,,,

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On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:45:04 GMT, Brian Matthews <noonecares@ddd.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:39:31 GMT, "GM Collins" <buur11@**gmail.co*m>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>> Lam's a proven winner and knows how to coach.
>>>
>>> Doug Collins recently turned down the offer to coach the Chicago Bulls
>>> the other day, rumor has it that he'll get an invite by Dumars for an
>>> interview. Collins IMO, is the top candidate to coach such talent that
>>> we have now. Doug's a tough disciplinarian. He could instill the hard
>>> knocked work ethic this team lacks.
>>>
>>> Michael Curry in all honesty has no credentials!
>>>
>>> Terry Porter was a good coach in Milwakuee but he's been a part of the
>>> failed Pistons teams the past two seasons and isn't worth the risk!
>>>
>>> Cowans is certain to look up a connection to the Celtics after this
>>> season.
>>
>>Doug Collins isn't coming here, and good. He said Chicago was his only
>>option and when that fell apart he was done. Honestly he has had his shot
>>and bringing him back would be just recycling retreads. No thanks. And as
>>much as I like Laimbeer I would prefer the Pistons not be his first NBA
>>coaching job. At least Curry has some experience dealing with NBA players at
>>a coaching level. Though I would prefer a wider search.
>
>
>Doug Collins wasn't hired in Chicago for one reason, Flip Saunders.
>Flip will be the next coach of Chicago.

No way. Bulls will hire either Vinny Del Negro or Dwayne Casey. Flip
is not even going to be interviewed.

The Suns just hired Terry Porter so the trend of getting assitant
coaches into the head spot seems to continue.

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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:10:10 -0700, "Terraholm"
<TerraholmSPAMNOT@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Brian Matthews wrote:
>>
>> Doug Collins wasn't hired in Chicago for one reason, Flip Saunders.
>
>
>I think the one reason is a one word answer... money.
>
>

Collins turned down the offer himself. Frankly I think he didn't want
to give up his cushy TNT job for the grind of an NBA season and he
didn't want to relocate from sunny, warm Scottsdale Arizona to cold,
windy Chicago.

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SkippyPB wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:10:10 -0700, "Terraholm"
> <TerraholmSPAMNOT@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian Matthews wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug Collins wasn't hired in Chicago for one reason, Flip Saunders.
>>
>>
>> I think the one reason is a one word answer... money.
>>
>>
>
> Collins turned down the offer himself. Frankly I think he didn't want
> to give up his cushy TNT job for the grind of an NBA season and he
> didn't want to relocate from sunny, warm Scottsdale Arizona to cold,
> windy Chicago.


I think those things may be true... but my guess they would have been easily
shoved aside if the contract offered was what he thought he was worth.


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