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Don't Taze Me, Bro! 04-26-2008, 12:25 AM This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people don't
care. Weed can make you feel just as happy as alcohol and without the
hangover...
The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does. Josh Howard brags about
the occasional toke on the radio, while Rickey Williams has to go to
substance abuse programs if he wants to play.
Wonder if the NFL and America will ever make weed legal... and fight more
serious shit... Like brothers and sister's who f_ck and create offspring
like Packer fans.
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Terraholm 04-26-2008, 01:30 AM Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people
> don't care.
Nor should we...
> The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does.
The NBA has been testing for weed since the 1999 CBA.
Used to be just one drug test during camp for veterans, but now they also
do at least one random test during the season. Once entered in the
anti-drug program they test often... 3rd strike for pot is a 5 game
suspension.
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Laurel T
A coach after being informed, that like
players, their drug tests would include
banned performance enhancing drugs:
"Does that include Viagra?"
Don't Taze Me, Bro! 04-26-2008, 01:33 AM "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:67fbcrF2olabkU1@mid.individual.net...
> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>> This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people
>> don't care.
>
> Nor should we...
>
>> The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does.
>
> The NBA has been testing for weed since the 1999 CBA.
> Used to be just one drug test during camp for veterans, but now they also
> do at least one random test during the season. Once entered in the
> anti-drug program they test often... 3rd strike for pot is a 5 game
> suspension.
>
Guess I never heard when it changed. Whatever the case, it should be
legalized. It's a ridiculous freedom that is stripped from us.
Terraholm 04-26-2008, 01:43 AM Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:67fbcrF2olabkU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people
>>> don't care.
>>
>> Nor should we...
>>
>>> The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does.
>>
>> The NBA has been testing for weed since the 1999 CBA.
>> Used to be just one drug test during camp for veterans, but now
>> they also do at least one random test during the season. Once
>> entered in the anti-drug program they test often... 3rd strike for
>> pot is a 5 game suspension.
>>
>
>
> Guess I never heard when it changed.
Here are excerpts from the rules
http://nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-XXXIII.php
Section 6. Random Testing.
(a) In addition to the testing procedures set forth in Section 5 above, a
player shall be required to undergo testing for Prohibited Substances at any
time, without prior notice to the player, no more than four (4) times each
Season.
Section 5. Reasonable Cause Testing or Hearing.
(a) In the event that either the NBA or the Players Association has
information that gives it reasonable cause to believe that a player is
engaged in the use, possession, or distribution of a Prohibited Substance,
including information that a First-Year Player may have been engaged in such
conduct during the period beginning three (3) months prior to his entry into
the NBA, such party shall request a conference with the other party and the
Independent Expert, which shall be held within twenty-four (24) hours or as
soon thereafter as the Expert is available. Upon hearing the information
presented, the Independent Expert shall immediately decide whether there is
reasonable cause to believe that the player in question has been engaged in
the use, possession, or distribution of a Prohibited Substance. If the
Independent Expert decides that such reasonable cause exists, the Expert
shall thereupon issue an Authorization for Testing with respect to such
player.
Section 8. Marijuana Program.
(a) Voluntary Entry.
(i) A player may enter the Marijuana Program voluntarily at any time by
Coming Forward Voluntarily; provided, however, that a player may not Come
Forward Voluntarily for a problem involving the use of marijuana (A) until
he has been selected in an NBA Draft or invited to an NBA training camp; (B)
during any period in which an Authorization for Testing as to that player
remains in effect pursuant to Section 5 above; or (C) during any period in
which he remains subject to in-patient or aftercare treatment in the
Marijuana Program.
(ii) If a player who has not previously entered the Marijuana Program, or a
player who has been notified by the Medical Director that he has
successfully completed that Program, Comes Forward Voluntarily for a problem
involving the use of marijuana, he shall enter the Marijuana Program.
(iii) No penalty of any kind will be imposed on a player as a result of
having Come Forward Voluntarily for a problem involving the use of
marijuana. The foregoing sentence shall not preclude the imposition of any
penalty called for by this Article XXXIII as a result of conduct by the
player that occurs after he has Come Forward Voluntarily.
(b) Treatment.
(i) A player who enters the Marijuana Program shall be required to submit to
an evaluation by the Medical Director, provide (or cause to be provided) to
the Medical Director such relevant medical and treatment records as the
Medical Director may request, and commence the treatment and testing program
prescribed by the Medical Director. Such program may include random testing
for Prohibited Substances other than SPEDs, and for alcohol, and such
non-testing elements as may be determined in the professional judgment of
the Medical Director.
(ii) If a player, within five (5) days of the date on which he was notified
that he had entered the Marijuana Program and without a reasonable excuse,
fails to comply (in the professional judgment of the Medical Director) with
any of the obligations set forth in the first sentence of Section 8(b)(i)
above, he shall be fined $10,000; if the player thereafter fails to comply,
without a reasonable excuse, with such obligations (in the professional
judgment of the Medical Director) within eight (8) days of such
notification, he shall be fined an additional $10,000; and for each
additional day beyond the 8th day that the player, without a reasonable
excuse, fails to comply with such obligations (in the professional judgment
of the Medical Director), he shall be fined an additional $10,000. The total
amount of such fines may not exceed the player’s total Compensation.
(c) Penalties.
Any player who (i) tests positive for marijuana pursuant to Section 5
(Reasonable Cause Testing), Section 6 (Random Testing), or Section 14
(Additional Bases for Testing), (ii) is adjudged by the Grievance Arbitrator
pursuant to Section 5(e) above to have used or possessed marijuana, or (iii)
has been convicted of (including a plea of guilty, no contest or nolo
contendere to) the use or possession of marijuana in violation of the law,
shall suffer the following penalties:
(A) For the first such violation, the player shall be required to enter the
Marijuana Program;
(B) For the second such violation, the player shall be fined $25,000 and, if
the player is not then subject to in-patient or aftercare treatment in the
Marijuana Program, be required to enter the Marijuana Program;
(C) For the third such violation, the player shall be suspended for five (5)
games and, if the player is not then subject to in-patient or aftercare
treatment in the Marijuana Program, be required to enter the Marijuana
Program; and
(D) For any subsequent violation, the player shall be suspended for five (5)
games longer than his immediately preceding suspension for violating the
Marijuana Program and, if the player is not then subject to in-patient or
aftercare treatment in the Marijuana Program, be required to enter the
Marijuana Program.
>Whatever the case, it should be
> legalized. It's a ridiculous freedom that is stripped from us.
Agreed from a 60s hippy... =)
williepoo 04-26-2008, 11:20 AM NBA only tests during the season...
Terraholm 04-26-2008, 03:09 PM williepoo wrote:
> NBA only tests during the season...
Yes... I just posted the rules.
They can also make him join the anti-drug program from his admitted use.
Section 5. Reasonable Cause Testing or Hearing.
http://nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-XXXIII.php#section5
"We'll deal with Josh," Cuban said. "We won't make it public. But we'll deal
with it. We'll do what we need to do and deal with it internally, and that's
it. End of story."
It is actually between Howard and the league/NBPA.
Some reports have it as Cuban meaning the Mavs will deal with it.
Section 3. Confidentiality.
http://nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-XXXIII.php#section3
Jabba 04-26-2008, 06:13 PM On Apr 25, 4:25 pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis...@Earth71.net>
wrote:
> This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people don't
> care. Weed can make you feel just as happy as alcohol and without the
> hangover...
>
> The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does. Josh Howard brags about
> the occasional toke on the radio, while Rickey Williams has to go to
> substance abuse programs if he wants to play.
>
> Wonder if the NFL and America will ever make weed legal... and fight more
> serious shit...
There is some hope here -- I recently learned that I was living in a
country closer to Amsterdam than the puritanical USA.
A friend of mine went to a clinic the other day where she paid $150
for a consultation that netted her a "club card" that allows her to
buy and smoke pot legally. After getting the card she went to the
"pharmacy" where she was able to choose between a dozen samples, all
at or below the "street" prices.
She did some research on the net ahead of time and told the doctor she
had migraines and couldn't take the standard prescription drugs. When
I asked her how the doctor took her fake exuse, she said "frankly, he
seemed really happy that I bothered to have an excuse at all."
Hey Laurel, do the rules make excptions for prescriptions?
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jabba
citizen of the empire
Terraholm 04-26-2008, 08:30 PM Jabba wrote:
> On Apr 25, 4:25 pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis...@Earth71.net>
> wrote:
>> This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people
>> don't care. Weed can make you feel just as happy as alcohol and
>> without the hangover...
>>
>> The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does. Josh Howard brags
>> about the occasional toke on the radio, while Rickey Williams has to
>> go to substance abuse programs if he wants to play.
>>
>> Wonder if the NFL and America will ever make weed legal... and fight
>> more serious shit...
>
>
> There is some hope here -- I recently learned that I was living in a
> country closer to Amsterdam than the puritanical USA.
>
> A friend of mine went to a clinic the other day where she paid $150
> for a consultation that netted her a "club card" that allows her to
> buy and smoke pot legally. After getting the card she went to the
> "pharmacy" where she was able to choose between a dozen samples, all
> at or below the "street" prices.
>
> She did some research on the net ahead of time and told the doctor she
> had migraines and couldn't take the standard prescription drugs. When
> I asked her how the doctor took her fake exuse, she said "frankly, he
> seemed really happy that I bothered to have an excuse at all."
>
> Hey Laurel, do the rules make excptions for prescriptions?
no
bozak 04-26-2008, 10:05 PM "Jabba" <jabbathechandler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4c5cf6f6-e28f-473f-b144-f46a173ae781@l25g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 25, 4:25 pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis...@Earth71.net>
> wrote:
>> This is what is so silly about MARIJUANA being illegal. Most people don't
>> care. Weed can make you feel just as happy as alcohol and without the
>> hangover...
>>
>> The NBA does not screen for weed... The NFL does. Josh Howard brags about
>> the occasional toke on the radio, while Rickey Williams has to go to
>> substance abuse programs if he wants to play.
>>
>> Wonder if the NFL and America will ever make weed legal... and fight more
>> serious shit...
>
>
> There is some hope here -- I recently learned that I was living in a
> country closer to Amsterdam than the puritanical USA.
>
> A friend of mine went to a clinic the other day where she paid $150
> for a consultation that netted her a "club card" that allows her to
> buy and smoke pot legally. After getting the card she went to the
> "pharmacy" where she was able to choose between a dozen samples, all
> at or below the "street" prices.
>
> She did some research on the net ahead of time and told the doctor she
> had migraines and couldn't take the standard prescription drugs. When
> I asked her how the doctor took her fake exuse, she said "frankly, he
> seemed really happy that I bothered to have an excuse at all."
people are scoring top notch hydro from those joints... did you see the post
where they are going to have the weed vending machine...
i gotta hurry back to the west coast... i havent smoked herb in almost 4 years
now... although i gotta finish getting back in shape before that could happen...
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