Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com
04-17-2008, 04:35 PM
Here's an idea to beat up on.
If the goal in building a team is winning the Super Bowl, then the
team needs either to focus resources on its QB - even more than
conventional wisdom suggests - or de-emphasize the QB.
Over half of Super Bowl winning starting QBs were first-rounders, and
that excludes Roger Staubach. (Staubach would have been a #1 overall
pick but went in the tenth round due to his Navy service.) In fact,
almost a third of Super Bowls have been won by QBs picked first
overall. And that excludes both Staubach and Steve Young. (Young was
projected first overall but signed with the USFL.)
After that, Super Bowl winning QBs have been:
* as likely to come from the 17th round of the draft (Starr) as the
2nd round (Stabler & Favre);
* almost as likely to come from the 6th round (quick, name the sixth
rounder other than Brady) as from the 3rd (Montana & Hostetler); and
* as likely to come from Hy-Vee groceries as from the 4th round
(Theismann).
Gratuitous chart: http://i25.tinypic.com/2w4l21e.jpg
Grey Matters
04-18-2008, 03:46 PM
Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com wrote in news:5fc63495-53e9-4990-87ac-
73232af9ad3f@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> Here's an idea to beat up on.
>
> If the goal in building a team is winning the Super Bowl, then the
> team needs either to focus resources on its QB - even more than
> conventional wisdom suggests - or de-emphasize the QB.
>
> Over half of Super Bowl winning starting QBs were first-rounders, and
> that excludes Roger Staubach. (Staubach would have been a #1 overall
> pick but went in the tenth round due to his Navy service.) In fact,
> almost a third of Super Bowls have been won by QBs picked first
> overall. And that excludes both Staubach and Steve Young. (Young was
> projected first overall but signed with the USFL.)
>
> After that, Super Bowl winning QBs have been:
> * as likely to come from the 17th round of the draft (Starr) as the
> 2nd round (Stabler & Favre);
> * almost as likely to come from the 6th round (quick, name the sixth
> rounder other than Brady) as from the 3rd (Montana & Hostetler); and
> * as likely to come from Hy-Vee groceries as from the 4th round
> (Theismann).
>
> Gratuitous chart: http://i25.tinypic.com/2w4l21e.jpg
When you're figuring this out, I think you'd want to look at not just how
high a player was drafted, but how they were acquired.
For example, Jim Plunkett, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, and I'm sure more
were first round picks, but by the time they made it to their SB winning
club they were journeymen picked up as cheap insurance who couldn't even
crack the starting lineup.
Meano.Culpa@yahoo.com
04-18-2008, 07:57 PM
On Apr 18, 10:46 am, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
> Meano.Cu...@yahoo.com wrote in news:5fc63495-53e9-4990-87ac-
> 73232af9a...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Here's an idea to beat up on.
>
> > If the goal in building a team is winning the Super Bowl, then the
> > team needs either to focus resources on its QB - even more than
> > conventional wisdom suggests - or de-emphasize the QB.
>
> > Over half of Super Bowl winning starting QBs were first-rounders, and
> > that excludes Roger Staubach. (Staubach would have been a #1 overall
> > pick but went in the tenth round due to his Navy service.) In fact,
> > almost a third of Super Bowls have been won by QBs picked first
> > overall. And that excludes both Staubach and Steve Young. (Young was
> > projected first overall but signed with the USFL.)
>
> > After that, Super Bowl winning QBs have been:
> > * as likely to come from the 17th round of the draft (Starr) as the
> > 2nd round (Stabler & Favre);
> > * almost as likely to come from the 6th round (quick, name the sixth
> > rounder other than Brady) as from the 3rd (Montana & Hostetler); and
> > * as likely to come from Hy-Vee groceries as from the 4th round
> > (Theismann).
>
> > Gratuitous chart:http://i25.tinypic.com/2w4l21e.jpg
>
> When you're figuring this out, I think you'd want to look at not just how
> high a player was drafted, but how they were acquired.
>
> For example, Jim Plunkett, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, and I'm sure more
> were first round picks, but by the time they made it to their SB winning
> club they were journeymen picked up as cheap insurance who couldn't even
> crack the starting lineup.
Good point. The other thing I missed is whether the mix of Super Bowl
winning QBs is much different from NFL QBs in general. (Takes a quick
look)
Looks like 17 of 32 projected opening day starters were first round
picks, including five overall number ones. (Just to pick someone, I'm
assuming Redman, Boller and Alex Smith win the starting jobs.) Four
sixth rounders & four UFAs.
The NFC North - two first rounders, a second rounder and an UFA for
the Lions.