Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.

Dave

"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>
> Dave
>

Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)

In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>
>
>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>
Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
a branch of the Social Security System.

Dave

On 14 Mar 2008 07:43:33 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>
>>
>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>
>Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>a branch of the Social Security System.
>
>Dave

Jones makes my point about the Lions drafts.
Another bust and this time it doesn't matter what "system" we're going
with. The Lions are better off trading all their picks for proven
players. 7 or 8 years into Millen's rebuilding project? When are the
Lions going to release HIM?

My turn;

FIRE MILLEN


Brian

On 14 Mar 2008 07:43:33 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>
>>
>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>
>Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>a branch of the Social Security System.
>
>Dave

What does this have to do with the 6th pick anyways? I thought they
swapped 6th for 7th to get Roy Williams. They got Jones near the end
of the 1st round in a trade with DEN or KC or something?

In article <4vblt3tr01oimcg7cuomeek0jmqd402nev@4ax.com>, Brian Matthews says...
>
>On 14 Mar 2008 07:43:33 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>>
>>>
>>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>>
>>Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>>continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>>came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>>the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>>rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>>a branch of the Social Security System.
>>
>>Dave
>
>Jones makes my point about the Lions drafts.
>Another bust and this time it doesn't matter what "system" we're going
>with. The Lions are better off trading all their picks for proven
>players. 7 or 8 years into Millen's rebuilding project? When are the
>Lions going to release HIM?
>
>My turn;
>
>FIRE MILLEN
>
>
>Brian
James Stewart was a proven player. Woody was a proven player.
How much did they, or any of the other proven players help.
Proven players only come to the Lions to collect a paycheck.
Hell man, didn't this organization have arguably the best
running back in the history of the NFL for about 10 years?
I said it before and I'll say it again, you Millen Haters are
obsessed and it clouds other aspects of the problem. 50 years
of bad GM's, an uncaring owner and a fanatical fan base thats
been willing to put up with it. Do you think there will be less
fans in the seats this year, even after the rise in ticket prices?
Yes proven players are what we need. He He, round and round we
go. And My Turn: BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FORD.

Dave

In article <db0mt3l72fln56qjltr8i59t6j8l978rhs@4ax.com>, x@x.x says...
>
>On 14 Mar 2008 07:43:33 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>>
>>>
>>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>>
>>Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>>continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>>came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>>the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>>rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>>a branch of the Social Security System.
>>
>>Dave
>
>What does this have to do with the 6th pick anyways? I thought they
>swapped 6th for 7th to get Roy Williams. They got Jones near the end
>of the 1st round in a trade with DEN or KC or something?
They swapped a 6th for two of Clevelands. One they used for Roy
and the other to help them get KJ. If you think Roy is going
to be here in another year pass a little bit of what your
smoking this way. He will definitly test the FA market after
this year or Ford will pay him excessively, he'll be injured
in 09' and collect his money on the DL. The Lions soap opera
is endless. Round and Round.

Dave

Dave

On Mar 14, 8:28 pm, snapp44 <snapp44_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> James Stewart was a proven player. Woody was a proven player.
> How much did they, or any of the other proven players help.
> Proven players only come to the Lions to collect a paycheck.
> Hell man, didn't this organization have arguably the best
> running back in the history of the NFL for about 10 years?

Yep. And they made the playoffs every other year or so.

Not great, but not terrible. Millen is terrible. Terrible compared
to other Lions GMs. I was one of those who thought he was just what
we needed. I was as wrong as could be.

> I said it before and I'll say it again, you Millen Haters are
> obsessed and it clouds other aspects of the problem. 50 years
> of bad GM's, an uncaring owner and a fanatical fan base thats
> been willing to put up with it.

Too much fan loyalty is a bad thing. When the Tigers sucked, people
stopped going. It hit Illich right in the pocketbook. But we're
football-obsessed in this town.

> Do you think there will be less
> fans in the seats this year, even after the rise in ticket prices?

I can only hope so.

> Yes proven players are what we need. He He, round and round we
> go. And My Turn: BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FORD.
>
> Dave

On 14 Mar 2008 07:43:33 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>
>>
>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>
>Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>a branch of the Social Security System.
>
>Dave

The only problem with cutting Jones is that we are left with Tatum
Bell and not much else. Jones could go on to have a good career
elsewhere if he could stay healthy. I doubt that.

Regards,
////
(o o)
-oOO--(_)--OOo-

"With global warming, somebody's baby is going to have to burst into
flames to make people do the right thing."
-- Chris Rock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Remove nospam to email me.

Steve

In article <8aef9a80-282b-4516-8d46-979727b7481c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Tony Wesley says...
>
>On Mar 14, 8:28 pm, snapp44 <snapp44_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> James Stewart was a proven player. Woody was a proven player.
>> How much did they, or any of the other proven players help.
>> Proven players only come to the Lions to collect a paycheck.
>> Hell man, didn't this organization have arguably the best
>> running back in the history of the NFL for about 10 years?
>
>Yep. And they made the playoffs every other year or so.
>

And during those road playoff games which Player and Team
were the biggest busts in the history of the NFL?

>Not great, but not terrible. Millen is terrible. Terrible compared
>to other Lions GMs. I was one of those who thought he was just what
>we needed. I was as wrong as could be.
>

Nah, give him 20+ years, like the clown before him.

>> I said it before and I'll say it again, you Millen Haters are
>> obsessed and it clouds other aspects of the problem. 50 years
>> of bad GM's, an uncaring owner and a fanatical fan base thats
>> been willing to put up with it.
>
>Too much fan loyalty is a bad thing. When the Tigers sucked, people
>stopped going. It hit Illich right in the pocketbook. But we're
>football-obsessed in this town.
>

Fans are afraid that if the Lions loose their fans, they will
move. Big Ford is too old to move. I think he would sell and
provisions could be made by the state and the NFL to ensure
they remain in Michigan. Indeed, if every game were played
in an empty stadium, the NFL would pressure him to sell. Like
refusing to air the auto companies commercials. I know He
personally has nothing to do with the company, but there
still is probably some way to influence him, maybe through
little Ford. BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FORD.

>> Do you think there will be less
>> fans in the seats this year, even after the rise in ticket prices?
>
>I can only hope so.
>
>> Yes proven players are what we need. He He, round and round we
>> go. And My Turn: BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FORD.
>>
>> Dave
>
Dave

In article <gbqnt35haao5gmlq0a514ajuj5ond5kamc@4ax.com>, SkippyPB says...
>
>On 14 Mar 2008 07:43:33 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>>
>>>
>>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>>
>>Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>>continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>>came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>>the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>>rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>>a branch of the Social Security System.
>>
>>Dave
>
>The only problem with cutting Jones is that we are left with Tatum
>Bell and not much else. Jones could go on to have a good career
>elsewhere if he could stay healthy. I doubt that.
>

This years draft is supposed to be deep in RB's so we should
be able to get someone. How many ex-Lions have gone on to
shine after leaving, besides Hartings and maybe another?
Sure, they do great against US, but most are what they are.
Jones was non durable so lets move on.

>Regards,
> ////
> (o o)
>-oOO--(_)--OOo-
>
>"With global warming, somebody's baby is going to have to burst into
>flames to make people do the right thing."
>-- Chris Rock
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Remove nospam to email me.
>
>Steve

Dave

On 14 Mar 2008 17:47:05 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:



>If you think Roy is going
>to be here in another year pass a little bit of what your
>smoking this way.

You could say the same thing about Winslow if he were here.

snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote


> Fans are afraid that if the Lions loose their fans, they will
> move. Big Ford is too old to move.

You're wrong if you think that fan loyalty is a factor. Ford kept the
Lions in town during the 70s when they only sold out on Thanksgiving and
often played with the stadium half full -- and that was back when NFL
teams had a real financial incentive to fill the stands.

> I think he would sell and
> provisions could be made by the state and the NFL to ensure
> they remain in Michigan.

The NFL would let the team be sold in a heartbeat to Memphis, Charlotte,
or any other sucker city willing to put up the money, and there are
plenty of sucker cities out there. They've happily let the second
biggest media market in the country go without a team for years, so why
would they care about whether or not Detroit has a club?

> Indeed, if every game were played in an empty stadium, the NFL would
> pressure him to sell.

Why? The owners would never empower the league administration to crack
down on a fellow owner like that just for putting out a substandard club.

> Like refusing to air the auto companies commercials.

They'd never give up the money, and they'd never let advertisers feel
like they could get hit with a shakedown because a team plays badly.

> I know He
> personally has nothing to do with the company, but there
> still is probably some way to influence him, maybe through
> little Ford. BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FORD.

Why do you think Ford cares? If he didn't care back before revenue
sharing, why would he care now? If he didn't care during the days of the
Pinto, Russ Thomas, the Silverdome and Darryl Rogers, what makes you
think anything would affect him now?

Until the Takings Clause of the 5th Amdendment of the Constitution is
repealed, there's no pressure that could be put on Ford to change his
ways.

In article <jd2ot3hlfgcqfu0l1hdhqqppclm58ahs15@4ax.com>, x@x.x says...
>
>On 14 Mar 2008 17:47:05 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>If you think Roy is going
>>to be here in another year pass a little bit of what your
>>smoking this way.
>
>You could say the same thing about Winslow if he were here.
>
But maybe he would of helped us to a 10-6 record before
he left.

Dave

In article <Xns9A628DB1E340Dgreymatters22yawhoco@199.45.49.11>, Grey Matters
says...
>
>snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote
>
>
>> Fans are afraid that if the Lions loose their fans, they will
>> move. Big Ford is too old to move.
>
>You're wrong if you think that fan loyalty is a factor. Ford kept the
>Lions in town during the 70s when they only sold out on Thanksgiving and
>often played with the stadium half full -- and that was back when NFL
>teams had a real financial incentive to fill the stands.
>

With no fans in the stands (not talking about half full), State
political and private pressure, constant embarassment for the
NFL, the city of Detroit and the state of Michigan, change
would come. It has been said before that not all NFL owners
care for each other. They ganged up on Al Davis and they could
do the same to Ford.

>> I think he would sell and
>> provisions could be made by the state and the NFL to ensure
>> they remain in Michigan.
>
>The NFL would let the team be sold in a heartbeat to Memphis, Charlotte,
>or any other sucker city willing to put up the money, and there are
>plenty of sucker cities out there. They've happily let the second
>biggest media market in the country go without a team for years, so why
>would they care about whether or not Detroit has a club?
>

Any fool knows the goldmine a NFL franchise in Detroit brings. If
you think the NFL would be willing to give up this cash cow you
are underestimating them. They rightfully decided that the average
LA Fan is not passionet enough about football. People in LA
would rather go to the beach, or go snowboarding in the mountains,
as both Georgia Frontierre and Al Davis found out.

>> Indeed, if every game were played in an empty stadium, the NFL would
>> pressure him to sell.
>
>Why? The owners would never empower the league administration to crack
>down on a fellow owner like that just for putting out a substandard club.
>

Embarassment and political/private pressure could change their mind.

>> Like refusing to air the auto companies commercials.
>
>They'd never give up the money, and they'd never let advertisers feel
>like they could get hit with a shakedown because a team plays badly.
>

Again, it's up to the fans to start a movement to embarass the
Lions and the NFL. Enough embarassement would tip the scale.
Personally I'm Boycotting Everything ford. What is immediately
needed is a skillful organizer. You as a fan have been
embarrassed for all these many years. Isn't it time to throw
it right back at them?

>> I know He
>> personally has nothing to do with the company, but there
>> still is probably some way to influence him, maybe through
>> little Ford. BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FORD.
>
>Why do you think Ford cares? If he didn't care back before revenue
>sharing, why would he care now? If he didn't care during the days of the
>Pinto, Russ Thomas, the Silverdome and Darryl Rogers, what makes you
>think anything would affect him now?
>

Because what I propose has never been tried. Because He/Himself has
never been held accountable. He always has had insulation, (Millen being
the latest). Because if the fans get smart and ONLY hold HIM
accountable and not his flunkies then we would have change.

>Until the Takings Clause of the 5th Amdendment of the Constitution is
>repealed, there's no pressure that could be put on Ford to change his
>ways.

I'm not suggesting his property be taken witout just compensation.
But his property represents City and State interests and I'm
sure He's getting preferential treatment in his business matters.
Pay him off. Handsomely if necessary. But the easier way is to
completely embarass him, his organization his fellow cohorts and
the league. I wonder if there are lessons to be learned with
respect to the Packers. A publically traded company?

Dave

On 16 Mar 2008 09:08:57 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>Also, I believe that in
>order to share in the TV Revenue your Club has to be within a certain
>percentage of the NFL average attendence figure.


I've never heard this and I don't believe it's true. It could be, it's
just it seems like it would be in reports about how a team didn't draw
enough to share the revenues. I believe every team gets an equal share
no matter what.

Brian

In article <b6iqt3t4o261oue4f8vaf2nbh44qib9oaf@4ax.com>, Brian Matthews says...
>
>On 16 Mar 2008 09:08:57 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Also, I believe that in
>>order to share in the TV Revenue your Club has to be within a certain
>>percentage of the NFL average attendence figure.
>
>
>I've never heard this and I don't believe it's true. It could be, it's
>just it seems like it would be in reports about how a team didn't draw
>enough to share the revenues. I believe every team gets an equal share
>no matter what.
>
>Brian

Well, I didn't make it up, but perhaps I'm confused and maybe
a team wouldn't get a full share. A sliding scale thing? Maybe
someone could direct us in finding an answer? Remember "NETRAT"?
He always kept the latest information on the Lions SALARIES and
CAP. Maybe he would know where to go for the info, but since he
doesn't post here anymore, I wouldn't know how to get in touch.
Could you Querry that other group you belong to?

Dave

"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:fre2ul01ih9@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>
>>
>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>
> Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
> continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
> came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
> the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
> rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
> a branch of the Social Security System.
>
> Dave
>
Good one! Don't you think the QB switch had a little to do with Cleveland's
success?

On Mar 16, 12:27 pm, Brian Matthews <nooneca...@ddd.com> wrote:

> I had season tickets at Pontiac but I haven't been to Ford Field yet

I've been there three times. The finish line for the Freep Half-
Marathon was at the 50 yard line. :)

> and I won't as long as Ford owns the team.

I won't until the team becomes competitive.

In article <nTfDj.39305$dA2.24999@read2.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>
>
>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>news:fre2ul01ih9@drn.newsguy.com...
>> In article <KBlCj.27778$612.7444@read1.cgocable.net>, finsfan says...
>>>
>>>
>>>"snapp44" <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>>news:frcjsu01ub1@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>>>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>Huh? You would prefer the guy who blew his knee on a mototrcycle? In a
>>>parking lot. Going twenty miles an hour? LOL 8)
>>>
>> Who helped his team to a 10-6 record last year and who
>> continued to ride the pine? Jones only claim to fame
>> came in the first eight games of his rookie year. If
>> the Lions are ever going to change, they need to get
>> rid of dead weight like Jones and stop being considered
>> a branch of the Social Security System.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>Good one! Don't you think the QB switch had a little to do with Cleveland's
>success?
>
I said he helped. Yeh, they had a decent QB too. With
the Lions and the way our offensive line played, God
throwing to Jesus wouldn't have helped. I hope they
don't lose focus and draft some glitzy RB. We need to
upgrade both lines. Period.

Dave

On Mar 16, 6:38 pm, snapp44 <snapp44_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> I said he helped. Yeh, they had a decent QB too. With
> the Lions and the way our offensive line played, God
> throwing to Jesus wouldn't have helped. I hope they
> don't lose focus and draft some glitzy RB. We need to
> upgrade both lines. Period.

With those comments in mind, I'm going to say that Jones did a decent
job for the Lions. I'm not ready to nominate him for the Pro Bowl but
I wasn't ready to cast him away.

Regarding God at QB, the OL might fold but He'd raise his hands and
the rush would part, just like the Red Sea. He'd tuck the ball in and
walk in for the touchdown.

I just thought of something.. Are like Moses, doomed to never reach
the Promised Land? Yes, we can gaze upon it, with Super Bowl XL right
in our back yard. But we'll never be there.

On Mar 13, 9:20 pm, snapp44 <snapp44_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>
> Dave

Hey loser a-hole Snapp....how about you come up with an ORIGINAL
fucking thought? I give you 1 point for agreeing with Sir Creep, but
that leaves you with 1 point. You lost 9 points for copying what Sir
Creep said in post #18 under the thread "Rogers reported gone",
wherein Sir Creep stated:
----

"I heard some jackoff on the radio say that this is the SECOND tie
Millen fleeced the Browns....referring of course to the draft day
trade down of one slot to get another 2nd rounder.
Now if we look at that trade, the Browns moved up one slot to get
Winslow Jr, and the Lions ended up with Roy Williams and (after
trading two 2nds to get back into the 1st) Kevin Jones. Who fleeced
WHO? Stupid fucking radio personalities who con't think -- I know
any
two of us could go on the radio and say more intelligent things than
those folks (and I include you people I disagree with constantly).
SCreep"

-----

But the fact you agree with SC's highly intelligent take from a couple
weeks ago, and the buffoons that infest this NG disagree with you (it
was probably a knee-jerk reaction, given your normal unconcionable
posts -- or perhaps just plain old jerk reactions, cuz they should
have AGREED with you as you lived vicariously through Sir C) means you
get to keep your single point for this fine post. Hell, I'll give it
TWO stars! :-)

Sir C.

In article <a366cab3-fff0-418a-b6bd-cf3148dccd69@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Sir Creep says...
>
>On Mar 13, 9:20=A0pm, snapp44 <snapp44_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> Ba-bye you "Waterford Crystal Legs" misfit. Just proves
>> we should of kept the 6th pick and drafted Winslow Jr.
>>
>> Dave
>
>Hey loser a-hole Snapp....how about you come up with an ORIGINAL
>fucking thought? I give you 1 point for agreeing with Sir Creep, but
>that leaves you with 1 point. You lost 9 points for copying what Sir
>Creep said in post #18 under the thread "Rogers reported gone",
>wherein Sir Creep stated:
>
>"I heard some jackoff on the radio say that this is the SECOND tie
>Millen fleeced the Browns....referring of course to the draft day
>trade down of one slot to get another 2nd rounder.
>Now if we look at that trade, the Browns moved up one slot to get
>Winslow Jr, and the Lions ended up with Roy Williams and (after
>trading two 2nds to get back into the 1st) Kevin Jones. Who fleeced
>WHO? Stupid fucking radio personalities who con't think -- I know
>any
>two of us could go on the radio and say more intelligent things than
>those folks (and I include you people I disagree with constantly).
>SCreep"
>
>-----
>
>But the fact you agree with SC's highly intelligent take from a couple
>weeks ago, and the buffoons that infest this NG disagree with you (it
>was probably a knee-jerk reaction, given your normal unconcionable
>posts -- or perhaps just plain old jerk reactions, cuz they should
>have AGREED with you as you lived vicariously through Sir C) means you
>get to keep your single point for this fine post. Hell, I'll give it
>TWO stars! :-)
>
>Sir C.
SIR CRUDDY! where you been? Out chasing ambulances? Most of your
posts need to be restated anyway because you gather your thoughts
using crayons. Inscripting characters on a medium, forming words
and larger units of language like text has somehow eluded you.
Keep it up and you may be attacked by a usenet nazi. Never know
who may be reading this group?

Actually, when I posted, I was trying to tweak "Grey Matters",
but he didn't bite. He and I went back and forth about whether
the Lions should draft Winslow Jr. way back before the draft.
So the idea that your thought was original is laughable. Better
lay off the Guinness tonight. You can't afford to lose anymore
brain cells. You fucked out bastard of a horny faggot!

Dave

snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in

> Actually, when I posted, I was trying to tweak "Grey Matters",
> but he didn't bite. He and I went back and forth about whether
> the Lions should draft Winslow Jr. way back before the draft.

When was that? I don't pay much attention to college players, so this
sounds wrong.

In article <Xns9A656AE23B424greymatters22yawhoco@199.45.49.11>, Grey Matters
says...
>
>snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in
>
>> Actually, when I posted, I was trying to tweak "Grey Matters",
>> but he didn't bite. He and I went back and forth about whether
>> the Lions should draft Winslow Jr. way back before the draft.
>
>When was that? I don't pay much attention to college players, so this
>sounds wrong.
I googled "grey matters winslow" and then clicked the eight
item on the list. After rereading alot of the old thread it
was "tim b" who I was thinking about.

Dave

In article <b6iqt3t4o261oue4f8vaf2nbh44qib9oaf@4ax.com>, Brian Matthews says...
>
>On 16 Mar 2008 09:08:57 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Also, I believe that in
>>order to share in the TV Revenue your Club has to be within a certain
>>percentage of the NFL average attendence figure.
>
>
>I've never heard this and I don't believe it's true. It could be, it's
>just it seems like it would be in reports about how a team didn't draw
>enough to share the revenues. I believe every team gets an equal share
>no matter what.
>
>Brian
After some furthur research it seems that within the last
year the NFL has implimented a plan to funnel more money
to low market teams (Cincinnati, Minnesota, etc). To qualify
they have to at least have 90% of the league average gate
receipts.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/11707196.html

Dave

snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:frp4p70i3f@drn.newsguy.com:

> In article <Xns9A656AE23B424greymatters22yawhoco@199.45.49.11>, Grey
> Matters says...
>>
>>snapp44 <snapp44_member@newsguy.com> wrote in
>>
>>> Actually, when I posted, I was trying to tweak "Grey Matters",
>>> but he didn't bite. He and I went back and forth about whether
>>> the Lions should draft Winslow Jr. way back before the draft.
>>
>>When was that? I don't pay much attention to college players, so this
>>sounds wrong.
> I googled "grey matters winslow" and then clicked the eight
> item on the list. After rereading alot of the old thread it
> was "tim b" who I was thinking about.

Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the Lions
should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?

On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:

> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the Lions
> should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?

The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?

In article <8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-7813d0ef51b0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Tony Wesley says...
>
>On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>
>> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the Lions
>> should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>
>The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
>anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?
>
Well, which is it? Either Lions players make too much while playing
a kids game or don't make enough for playing in this cesspool?

Dave

Tony Wesley <tonywesley@gmail.com> wrote in news:8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-
7813d0ef51b0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>
>> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the Lions
>> should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>
> The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
> anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?

Maybe that explains why that assistant coach got arrested at Taco Bell last
year.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:32:10 GMT, Grey Matters
<greymatters22@ya-who.com> wrote:

>Tony Wesley <tonywesley@gmail.com> wrote in news:8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-
>7813d0ef51b0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the Lions
>>> should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>>
>> The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
>> anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?
>
>Maybe that explains why that assistant coach got arrested at Taco Bell last
>year.

In regards to your original post about drafting Tatum Bell instead of
Kevin Jones, they could have had both as they were taken in different
rounds. Kevin in the first (30th pick) and Tatum in the second (41).
Detroit had a higher second round pick (37th) but went with LB Teddy
Lehman who while having flashes of greatness, hasn't been able to stay
on the field enough games to be worthy of a second round pick.


Detroit acutally had 2 picks in the first round of the 2004 draft.
They took Roy Williams at the 7th pick.

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"Grey Matters" <greymatters22@ya-who.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A666B266B0E6greymatters22yawhoco@130.81.64.196...
> Tony Wesley <tonywesley@gmail.com> wrote in news:8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-
> 7813d0ef51b0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the Lions
>>> should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>>
>> The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
>> anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?
>
> Maybe that explains why that assistant coach got arrested at Taco Bell
> last
> year.

Actually, I believe it was a Wendy's. Remember Kitna and his wife's
costumes at a Halloween bash? She had the red pig tails.

SkippyPB <swiegand@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in
news:9gd2u39fpg5pkc4trrs8baqcsvf2kjhpo9@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:32:10 GMT, Grey Matters
> <greymatters22@ya-who.com> wrote:
>
>>Tony Wesley <tonywesley@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-
>>7813d0ef51b0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the
>>>> Lions should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>>>
>>> The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
>>> anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?
>>
>>Maybe that explains why that assistant coach got arrested at Taco Bell
>>last year.
>
> In regards to your original post about drafting Tatum Bell instead of
> Kevin Jones, they could have had both as they were taken in different
> rounds. Kevin in the first (30th pick) and Tatum in the second (41).
> Detroit had a higher second round pick (37th) but went with LB Teddy
> Lehman who while having flashes of greatness, hasn't been able to stay
> on the field enough games to be worthy of a second round pick.
>
>
> Detroit acutally had 2 picks in the first round of the 2004 draft.
> They took Roy Williams at the 7th pick.

It wasn't a serious question, since I don't think there would have been
much impact on history, unless in this alternate world Jones gets a PhD
in archaeology, discovers the body of Satan buried under the Sphinx by
the UFOs, and then joins Chris Webber in leading the Pistons to 5
straight NBA championships.

If I had been serious, though, I'd point out that the Lions traded up for
the 1st round pick to get Jones, and if they hadn't, they could have
easily ended up with Bell. But mostly I threw it out there just to waste
time.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:01:16 GMT, Grey Matters
<greymatters22@ya-who.com> wrote:

>SkippyPB <swiegand@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in
>news:9gd2u39fpg5pkc4trrs8baqcsvf2kjhpo9@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:32:10 GMT, Grey Matters
>> <greymatters22@ya-who.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Tony Wesley <tonywesley@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>news:8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-
>>>7813d0ef51b0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Offseason is boring. How about I start something and say that the
>>>>> Lions should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>>>>
>>>> The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
>>>> anyone. Why bring some young man into this cesspool?
>>>
>>>Maybe that explains why that assistant coach got arrested at Taco Bell
>>>last year.
>>
>> In regards to your original post about drafting Tatum Bell instead of
>> Kevin Jones, they could have had both as they were taken in different
>> rounds. Kevin in the first (30th pick) and Tatum in the second (41).
>> Detroit had a higher second round pick (37th) but went with LB Teddy
>> Lehman who while having flashes of greatness, hasn't been able to stay
>> on the field enough games to be worthy of a second round pick.
>>
>>
>> Detroit acutally had 2 picks in the first round of the 2004 draft.
>> They took Roy Williams at the 7th pick.
>
>It wasn't a serious question, since I don't think there would have been
>much impact on history, unless in this alternate world Jones gets a PhD
>in archaeology, discovers the body of Satan buried under the Sphinx by
>the UFOs, and then joins Chris Webber in leading the Pistons to 5
>straight NBA championships.
>

LOL! Good thing webbie hasn't found this group!

>If I had been serious, though, I'd point out that the Lions traded up for
>the 1st round pick to get Jones, and if they hadn't, they could have
>easily ended up with Bell. But mostly I threw it out there just to waste
>time.

I wasn't aware they had traded up to get Jones. Heck, they'd have
been better off taking Julius Jones who was in the same draft class.

Regards,
////
(o o)
-oOO--(_)--OOo-

"I wan' all dem kids to do what I do, to look up to me. I wan' all the kids to
copulate me."
-- ex-Chicago Cubs outfielder Andre Dawson on being a role model
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Remove nospam to email me.

Steve

On Mar 17, 9:40 pm, snapp44 <snapp44_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> SIR CRUDDY! where you been? Out chasing ambulances? Most of your
> posts need to be restated anyway because you gather your thoughts
> using crayons....

> Dave

Zzzzzzzzz (yawn).

On Mar 19, 10:32 am, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
> Tony Wesley <tonywes...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8454624b-d1a1-439c-ba23-
> 7813d0ef5...@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Mar 18, 8:38 pm, Grey Matters <greymatter...@ya-who.com> wrote:
>
> >> Offseason is boring.  How about I start something and say that the Lions
> >> should have drafted, um, Tatum Bell instead of Kevin Jones?
>
> > The Lions should have gone to Taco Bell and not bothered drafting
> > anyone.  Why bring some young man into this cesspool?
>
> Maybe that explains why that assistant coach got arrested at Taco Bell last
> year.

Sorry, it was Wendy's. Better luck next insult
SC