Meatchikken Prof - gives son a Mike's and loses kid

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Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid a
Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
tape hayul.

And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.

HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
something else going on here....

On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
<Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>
> Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid a
> Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
> alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
> tape hayul.
>
> And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>
> HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
> overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
> something else going on here....

Cop was a tOSU fan?

I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted or that things
weren't communicated properly along the line.

-goro-

Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Goro:
> On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
> <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>>
>> Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid a
>> Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
>> alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
>> tape hayul.
>>
>> And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>>
>> HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
>> overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
>> something else going on here....

> Cop was a tOSU fan?

> I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
> wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted or that things
> weren't communicated properly along the line.

He's lucky he wasn't in Atlanta, our CPS kills kids.

rich
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On Apr 29, 10:06*am, Goro <evilnin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
>
> <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]....
>
> > Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid a
> > Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
> > alcoholic. *Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
> > tape hayul.
>
> > And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>
> > HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. *Such an extreme
> > overreaction for one alcoholic drink? *Not buying it....there's
> > something else going on here....
>
> Cop was a tOSU fan?
>
> I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
> wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted


CPS in general does a great job.

They are caught in a bind though in that when they take actions when
people think they shouldn't, it's an "overreaction" and "beaurocratic
nonsense". Of course when they lean towards the other side of things
and don't take any action for a given situation and something happens,
it's a huge deal as well. When in those same situations *had* they
taken action, the same people would have been complaining about how
they overreacted.......


Some people just love to complain.



or that things
> weren't communicated properly along the line.
>
> -goro-

On Apr 29, 12:59*pm, rich hammett <bubbaric...@warmmail.com> wrote:
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Goro:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
> > <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]....
>
> >> Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid a
> >> Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
> >> alcoholic. *Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
> >> tape hayul.
>
> >> And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>
> >> HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. *Such an extreme
> >> overreaction for one alcoholic drink? *Not buying it....there's
> >> something else going on here....
> > Cop was a tOSU fan?
> > I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
> > wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted or that things
> > weren't communicated properly along the line.
>
> He's lucky he wasn't in Atlanta, our CPS kills kids.

thousands of kids go through CPS every year in some
form.........obviously not every single one of those cases is going to
be perfect. CPS in general does a very good job.



>
> rich
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> \ * *way of thinking means ``I want the liberty to grow rich
> / * *and you can have the liberty to starve''. It's easy to
> \ * *believe that no one should depend on society for help
> / * *when you yourself happen not to need such help.- Hide quoted text-
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Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, mianderson:
> On Apr 29, 12:59*pm, rich hammett <bubbaric...@warmmail.com> wrote:
>> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
>> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Goro:
>> > On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
>> > <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>>
>> >> Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid a
>> >> Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
>> >> alcoholic. *Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
>> >> tape hayul.
>>
>> >> And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>>
>> >> HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. *Such an extreme
>> >> overreaction for one alcoholic drink? *Not buying it....there's
>> >> something else going on here....
>> > Cop was a tOSU fan?
>> > I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
>> > wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted or that things
>> > weren't communicated properly along the line.
>>
>> He's lucky he wasn't in Atlanta, our CPS kills kids.

> thousands of kids go through CPS every year in some
> form.........obviously not every single one of those cases is going to
> be perfect. CPS in general does a very good job.

I agree. Your patients will be lucky if you can
get their odds of not dying from a visit that high.

rich
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/ He always pictured himself a libertarian, which to my
\ way of thinking means ``I want the liberty to grow rich
/ and you can have the liberty to starve''. It's easy to
\ believe that no one should depend on society for help
/ when you yourself happen not to need such help.

"mianderson" <clayabc@excite.com> wrote in message
news:8effa1a1-4607-436e-8ed6-ccc38e98cfab@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 29, 10:06 am, Goro <evilnin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
>
> <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>
> > Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid
> > a
> > Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
> > alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
> > tape hayul.
>
> > And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>
> > HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
> > overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
> > something else going on here....
>
> Cop was a tOSU fan?
>
> I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
> wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted


CPS in general does a great job.

They are caught in a bind though in that when they take actions when
people think they shouldn't, it's an "overreaction" and "beaurocratic
nonsense". Of course when they lean towards the other side of things
and don't take any action for a given situation and something happens,
it's a huge deal as well. When in those same situations *had* they
taken action, the same people would have been complaining about how
they overreacted.......


Some people just love to complain.

************************

Kind of like acting on the intelligence information that is available at
the time.



or that things
> weren't communicated properly along the line.
>
> -goro-

Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, NapalmHeart:

> "mianderson" <clayabc@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:8effa1a1-4607-436e-8ed6-ccc38e98cfab@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 29, 10:06 am, Goro <evilnin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
>>
>> <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>>
>> > Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid
>> > a
>> > Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
>> > alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
>> > tape hayul.
>>
>> > And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>>
>> > HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
>> > overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
>> > something else going on here....
>>
>> Cop was a tOSU fan?
>>
>> I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
>> wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted


> CPS in general does a great job.

> They are caught in a bind though in that when they take actions when
> people think they shouldn't, it's an "overreaction" and "beaurocratic
> nonsense". Of course when they lean towards the other side of things
> and don't take any action for a given situation and something happens,
> it's a huge deal as well. When in those same situations *had* they
> taken action, the same people would have been complaining about how
> they overreacted.......


> Some people just love to complain.

> ************************

> Kind of like acting on the intelligence information that is available at
> the time.

DFACS had their minds made up before they investigated the parents.

rich
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/ He always pictured himself a libertarian, which to my
\ way of thinking means ``I want the liberty to grow rich
/ and you can have the liberty to starve''. It's easy to
\ believe that no one should depend on society for help
/ when you yourself happen not to need such help.

rich hammett <bubbarichau@warmmail.com>, don't waste your summer
praying in vain for your Obama to rise from these streets...

>Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
>olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, NapalmHeart:
>
>> "mianderson" <clayabc@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:8effa1a1-4607-436e-8ed6-ccc38e98cfab@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 29, 10:06 am, Goro <evilnin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
>>>
>>> <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>>>
>>> > Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid
>>> > a
>>> > Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
>>> > alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
>>> > tape hayul.
>>>
>>> > And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>>>
>>> > HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
>>> > overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
>>> > something else going on here....
>>>
>>> Cop was a tOSU fan?
>>>
>>> I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
>>> wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted
>
>
>> CPS in general does a great job.
>
>> They are caught in a bind though in that when they take actions when
>> people think they shouldn't, it's an "overreaction" and "beaurocratic
>> nonsense". Of course when they lean towards the other side of things
>> and don't take any action for a given situation and something happens,
>> it's a huge deal as well. When in those same situations *had* they
>> taken action, the same people would have been complaining about how
>> they overreacted.......
>
>
>> Some people just love to complain.
>
>> ************************
>
>> Kind of like acting on the intelligence information that is available at
>> the time.
>
>DFACS had their minds made up before they investigated the parents.


Many social workers do, make no mistake.


John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

"Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they
charge for arugula?" (Barrack Obama, Adel, Iowa, 2007)

Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, John Rogers:
> rich hammett <bubbarichau@warmmail.com>, don't waste your summer
> praying in vain for your Obama to rise from these streets...

>>Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
>>olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, NapalmHeart:
>>
>>> "mianderson" <clayabc@excite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8effa1a1-4607-436e-8ed6-ccc38e98cfab@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Apr 29, 10:06 am, Goro <evilnin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 29, 5:56 am, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior"
>>>>
>>>> <Iamtj4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >[url]http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/COL04/804280[/url]...
>>>>
>>>> > Apparently clueless dad - a tenured U of M professor - gave his kid
>>>> > a
>>>> > Mike's Hard Lemonade at a ballgame - claiming he didn't know it was
>>>> > alcoholic. Cops no likey this and put kid into confines of CPS red
>>>> > tape hayul.
>>>>
>>>> > And normal hijinks and outrage ensue.
>>>>
>>>> > HOWEVER - me smells that all's no well in Denmark. Such an extreme
>>>> > overreaction for one alcoholic drink? Not buying it....there's
>>>> > something else going on here....
>>>>
>>>> Cop was a tOSU fan?
>>>>
>>>> I agree that nothing about that story smell right at all, but it also
>>>> wouldn't surprise me that the CPS just overreacted
>>
>>
>>> CPS in general does a great job.
>>
>>> They are caught in a bind though in that when they take actions when
>>> people think they shouldn't, it's an "overreaction" and "beaurocratic
>>> nonsense". Of course when they lean towards the other side of things
>>> and don't take any action for a given situation and something happens,
>>> it's a huge deal as well. When in those same situations *had* they
>>> taken action, the same people would have been complaining about how
>>> they overreacted.......
>>
>>
>>> Some people just love to complain.
>>
>>> ************************
>>
>>> Kind of like acting on the intelligence information that is available at
>>> the time.
>>
>>DFACS had their minds made up before they investigated the parents.

> Many social workers do, make no mistake.

I blame Karl Rove for trying to justify it after the fact.

rich
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/ He always pictured himself a libertarian, which to my
\ way of thinking means ``I want the liberty to grow rich
/ and you can have the liberty to starve''. It's easy to
\ believe that no one should depend on society for help
/ when you yourself happen not to need such help.