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Old 04-30-2008, 12:18 AM
brosev@gmail.com
 
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Default What Would Nationals Look Like With 20 Teams??

So I'm bored and I don't wanna do work right now. I am one of the
proponents of a 20-team College Nationals format, just as a way to
follow the expansion of the college game, and make nationals a little
more grueling, especially for teams with a lack of depth, which I
like. So obviously this is going to be an inexact science, because I
personally chose the last 4 qualifiers on some different criteria. So
here's some explanations to go along with this little experiment:

1) There is no more 2/3 game at regionals, instead it becomes a 3/4
game. The regionals format would hopefully be made uniform. Every
region gets 2 bids, regardless of size.
2) The remaining bids are not sent out by size OR strength in my
version. Instead, we take the 8 teams who have won the 3/4 game and
select the 4 who are going to go. The list of 8 teams who finished 3rd
this year (by virtue of losing the 2/3) are going to be used, and form
that list we'll select the top 4 RRIs. Yes, I know RRI is not exact,
but for convenience sake let's move on. Obviously you could make the
argument for strength bids, or the RRI of the entire region, etc.
3) The 4 Teams who would get in this year are in order: Minnesota,
North Carolina, UBC, and Notre Dame, with UCSB just on the outside.
Remember, this is just based on RRI to avoid debating each detail.
4) The "Last 4" will be placed at the bottom of the 4 pools, reverse
snake, so the last qualifier is in the #1 seeds pool, in this case
that means Notre Dame is underneath Florida, UBC beneath the #2 seed
Michigan, etc.
5) I'm using my seedings for Nationals here, which I think are
alright. Have fun and drop your own seedings, and ways to dole out the
last 4 bids to come up with some neat stuff.
6) I kept the reverse snake for the automatic 16 bids, although I
don't know how I feel about it. Pool A is easily Florida's to lose,
and the other pools are grueling, so maybe lifting the reverse snake
from 9-12 and reversing 17-20 would help. But being the #1 overall
seed means you should have the easiest Friday, right?

My Seedings:
1) Florida
2) Michigan
3) Wisconsin
4) Colorado
5) Texas
6) Arizona
7) CUT
8) Illinois
9) Santa Cruz
10) Georgia
11) Stanford
12) UNT
13) Harvard (I assumed Harvard would win)
14) UDel
15) Pitt
16) NE2

Last 4:
17) Minnesota
18) North Carolina
19) UBC
20) Notre Dame

That makes the pools:

Pool A
Florida
Illinois
UNT
Harvard
Notre Dame

Pool B
Michigan
Carleton
Stanford
Delaware
UBC

Pool C (Pool of Death!!)
Wisconsin
Arizona
Georgia
Pitt
North Carolina

Pool D (Lesser Pool of Death!!)
Colorado
Texas
Santa Cruz
NE #2
Minnesota

Following Friday pool play, I'd advocate a formula used at Steakfest
(I think). Top 3 in each pool have a chance to win it, with the
winners of each pool getting a first round bye on bracket Saturday.

Drop comments/thoughts/how you'd do things. This is just meant to be a
fun little distraction for us nerds I came up without too much thought
to seeding, so please don't overly criticize that part of it, but by
all means share your feedback. Also I apologize for the length.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:26 AM
Fisher
 
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Default Re: What Would Nationals Look Like With 20 Teams??

On Apr 29, 8:18 pm, bro...@gmail.com wrote:
> So I'm bored and I don't wanna do work right now. I am one of the
> proponents of a 20-team College Nationals format, just as a way to
> follow the expansion of the college game, and make nationals a little
> more grueling, especially for teams with a lack of depth, which I
> like. So obviously this is going to be an inexact science, because I
> personally chose the last 4 qualifiers on some different criteria. So
> here's some explanations to go along with this little experiment:
>
> 1) There is no more 2/3 game at regionals, instead it becomes a 3/4
> game. The regionals format would hopefully be made uniform. Every
> region gets 2 bids, regardless of size.
> 2) The remaining bids are not sent out by size OR strength in my
> version. Instead, we take the 8 teams who have won the 3/4 game and
> select the 4 who are going to go. The list of 8 teams who finished 3rd
> this year (by virtue of losing the 2/3) are going to be used, and form
> that list we'll select the top 4 RRIs. Yes, I know RRI is not exact,
> but for convenience sake let's move on. Obviously you could make the
> argument for strength bids, or the RRI of the entire region, etc.
> 3) The 4 Teams who would get in this year are in order: Minnesota,
> North Carolina, UBC, and Notre Dame, with UCSB just on the outside.
> Remember, this is just based on RRI to avoid debating each detail.
> 4) The "Last 4" will be placed at the bottom of the 4 pools, reverse
> snake, so the last qualifier is in the #1 seeds pool, in this case
> that means Notre Dame is underneath Florida, UBC beneath the #2 seed
> Michigan, etc.
> 5) I'm using my seedings for Nationals here, which I think are
> alright. Have fun and drop your own seedings, and ways to dole out the
> last 4 bids to come up with some neat stuff.
> 6) I kept the reverse snake for the automatic 16 bids, although I
> don't know how I feel about it. Pool A is easily Florida's to lose,
> and the other pools are grueling, so maybe lifting the reverse snake
> from 9-12 and reversing 17-20 would help. But being the #1 overall
> seed means you should have the easiest Friday, right?
>
> My Seedings:
> 1) Florida
> 2) Michigan
> 3) Wisconsin
> 4) Colorado
> 5) Texas
> 6) Arizona
> 7) CUT
> 8) Illinois
> 9) Santa Cruz
> 10) Georgia
> 11) Stanford
> 12) UNT
> 13) Harvard (I assumed Harvard would win)
> 14) UDel
> 15) Pitt
> 16) NE2
>
> Last 4:
> 17) Minnesota
> 18) North Carolina
> 19) UBC
> 20) Notre Dame
>
> That makes the pools:
>
> Pool A
> Florida
> Illinois
> UNT
> Harvard
> Notre Dame
>
> Pool B
> Michigan
> Carleton
> Stanford
> Delaware
> UBC
>
> Pool C (Pool of Death!!)
> Wisconsin
> Arizona
> Georgia
> Pitt
> North Carolina
>
> Pool D (Lesser Pool of Death!!)
> Colorado
> Texas
> Santa Cruz
> NE #2
> Minnesota
>
> Following Friday pool play, I'd advocate a formula used at Steakfest
> (I think). Top 3 in each pool have a chance to win it, with the
> winners of each pool getting a first round bye on bracket Saturday.
>
> Drop comments/thoughts/how you'd do things. This is just meant to be a
> fun little distraction for us nerds I came up without too much thought
> to seeding, so please don't overly criticize that part of it, but by
> all means share your feedback. Also I apologize for the length.


Notre Dame didn't finish 3rd in their region... Ohio State did.
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:25 AM
schmidtacular
 
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Default Re: What Would Nationals Look Like With 20 Teams??

How about 24 teams, and we just invite them based on apparent
strength. We could call it..ummm...Centex.

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