random thoughts on damn near everything

For the past few years I've been reading on this site and hearing on
the talk shows from fans about what this organization really needs to
fix things up. We need a "proven" closer. we got that. We need a
"proven" manager. we got that too. Now we finally have the "proven" GM
that people have been clamoring for. The Reds shouldn't have a losing
season for some time to come.

As for me, I've been saying that we need starting pitching that can
get us past the 6th inning without people leaving early to beat
traffic. Were on the 5th turn through the rotation and what do we
have. Harang is a stud. Volquez is a revelation. Cueto has been league
average so far. Arroyo and etc have sucked bowls. were 3/4 of the way
there.

Personally, I think they pushed the panic button too early on Fogg.
Not that I'm a big supporter, but 2 lousy starts sandwiched around a
pretty good one is no reason to make a move.

Regarding Arroyo, theres either something wrong with him - Brantley
keeps saying the velocity isnt there, Pole says he can find nothing
mechanically wrong - or the league has him figured to a T and Bronson
needs to make a crapload of adjustments to his approach. I'm guessing
his arm is sore, tired or darn near dead and it hasnt been diagnosed
as such yet. This is a big blow to Reds playoff hopes. we need him
around to eat up 200 innings at league average or best. I have
reasonable doubts about the diminutive Cueto and inefficient Volquez
being effective for that long.

Anybody watching Dunn at the plate? What seems to be the problem? Or
is there one.

Last week i hear the usual yokles on Cinci talk radio (via XM)
complaining about the team and offering up solutions, most of which
typically involve playing Ryan Freel. If I hear another redneck (i.e.
white guy from a rural area in Ohio/Indiana/Kentucky) phone in and say
that Encarnacion needs to be gotten rid of and hey, how about putting
Ryan Freel at 3rd, I'm gonna say f**k it and vote democrat this fall.
Leave the kid alone. Freel would strike out 100-125 times with no
power if he played a full season and isnt going to outhit EE in any
way shape or form. But of course that would be conveniently ignored by
the same people who constantly critcize the reds hitters for the high
K totals. I'm so glad Edwin is streaking hot right now. It should at
least shut up a few of the guys. I heard one guy say that Edwin isnt
nearly as good as his brother. I assume he meant ex-red juan. Ha! the
jokes on him because A) they arent brothers and b) Juan is an average
player at best and below average considering he's an outfielder.

Dan O'Brien took a lot of crap about his performance as Reds GM but
give him some credit for Bruce, Bailey, and Cueto who were all signed
under his tenure. Consecutive 1st round picks on Bailey and Bruce. Not
too bad. From what I understand he has really helped get the Reds
involved in Latin America's talent pool again. That's a mark for Dan
and a mark against Bowden who let things fall apart down there.

Bowdens people signed Votto into this org which tells you how long
Joeys been around.

I'me pretty optimistic about this season just based on the starting
pitching.

After May 20, all bitching or otherwise about this team shall be
considered legitimate and appropriate. Until then, its really to early
to tell much. I have spoken.

love, Henry

<henreporter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5aaff1db-ae36-4376-8b88-a97ec4de4128@b9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> For the past few years I've been reading on this site and hearing on
> the talk shows from fans about what this organization really needs to
> fix things up. We need a "proven" closer. we got that. We need a
> "proven" manager. we got that too. Now we finally have the "proven" GM
> that people have been clamoring for. The Reds shouldn't have a losing
> season for some time to come.
>
> As for me, I've been saying that we need starting pitching that can
> get us past the 6th inning without people leaving early to beat
> traffic. Were on the 5th turn through the rotation and what do we
> have. Harang is a stud. Volquez is a revelation. Cueto has been league
> average so far. Arroyo and etc have sucked bowls. were 3/4 of the way
> there.
>
> Personally, I think they pushed the panic button too early on Fogg.
> Not that I'm a big supporter, but 2 lousy starts sandwiched around a
> pretty good one is no reason to make a move.
>
> Regarding Arroyo, theres either something wrong with him - Brantley
> keeps saying the velocity isnt there, Pole says he can find nothing
> mechanically wrong - or the league has him figured to a T and Bronson
> needs to make a crapload of adjustments to his approach. I'm guessing
> his arm is sore, tired or darn near dead and it hasnt been diagnosed
> as such yet. This is a big blow to Reds playoff hopes. we need him
> around to eat up 200 innings at league average or best. I have
> reasonable doubts about the diminutive Cueto and inefficient Volquez
> being effective for that long.
>
> Anybody watching Dunn at the plate? What seems to be the problem? Or
> is there one.
>
> Last week i hear the usual yokles on Cinci talk radio (via XM)
> complaining about the team and offering up solutions, most of which
> typically involve playing Ryan Freel. If I hear another redneck (i.e.
> white guy from a rural area in Ohio/Indiana/Kentucky) phone in and say
> that Encarnacion needs to be gotten rid of and hey, how about putting
> Ryan Freel at 3rd, I'm gonna say f**k it and vote democrat this fall.
> Leave the kid alone. Freel would strike out 100-125 times with no
> power if he played a full season and isnt going to outhit EE in any
> way shape or form. But of course that would be conveniently ignored by
> the same people who constantly critcize the reds hitters for the high
> K totals. I'm so glad Edwin is streaking hot right now. It should at
> least shut up a few of the guys. I heard one guy say that Edwin isnt
> nearly as good as his brother. I assume he meant ex-red juan. Ha! the
> jokes on him because A) they arent brothers and b) Juan is an average
> player at best and below average considering he's an outfielder.
>
> Dan O'Brien took a lot of crap about his performance as Reds GM but
> give him some credit for Bruce, Bailey, and Cueto who were all signed
> under his tenure. Consecutive 1st round picks on Bailey and Bruce. Not
> too bad. From what I understand he has really helped get the Reds
> involved in Latin America's talent pool again. That's a mark for Dan
> and a mark against Bowden who let things fall apart down there.
>
> Bowdens people signed Votto into this org which tells you how long
> Joeys been around.
>
> I'me pretty optimistic about this season just based on the starting
> pitching.
>
> After May 20, all bitching or otherwise about this team shall be
> considered legitimate and appropriate. Until then, its really to early
> to tell much. I have spoken.
>
> love, Henry

Well you've spoken -- slammed a political party & assigned yourself in
charge -- so I guess our only job is STFU -- do I have it right?

[email]henreporter@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
> For the past few years I've been reading on this site and hearing on
> the talk shows from fans about what this organization really needs to
> fix things up. We need a "proven" closer. we got that. We need a
> "proven" manager. we got that too. Now we finally have the "proven" GM
> that people have been clamoring for. The Reds shouldn't have a losing
> season for some time to come.
>
> As for me, I've been saying that we need starting pitching that can
> get us past the 6th inning without people leaving early to beat
> traffic. Were on the 5th turn through the rotation and what do we
> have. Harang is a stud. Volquez is a revelation. Cueto has been league
> average so far. Arroyo and etc have sucked bowls. were 3/4 of the way
> there.
>
> Personally, I think they pushed the panic button too early on Fogg.
> Not that I'm a big supporter, but 2 lousy starts sandwiched around a
> pretty good one is no reason to make a move.

Josh Fogg has done nothing to indicate that he's a major league quality
pitcher. Ever. Eric Milton and Jimmy Haynes BOTH have more of a resume
of success than Josh Fogg. You like Dave Williams? You're gonna love
Josh Fogg. The only reason to keep him around was to have an arm to give
starts to in case the kids didn't merit PT.

> Regarding Arroyo, theres either something wrong with him - Brantley
> keeps saying the velocity isnt there, Pole says he can find nothing
> mechanically wrong - or the league has him figured to a T and Bronson
> needs to make a crapload of adjustments to his approach. I'm guessing
> his arm is sore, tired or darn near dead and it hasnt been diagnosed
> as such yet. This is a big blow to Reds playoff hopes. we need him
> around to eat up 200 innings at league average or best. I have
> reasonable doubts about the diminutive Cueto and inefficient Volquez
> being effective for that long.


> Last week i hear the usual yokles on Cinci talk radio (via XM)
> complaining about the team and offering up solutions, most of which
> typically involve playing Ryan Freel. If I hear another redneck (i.e.
> white guy from a rural area in Ohio/Indiana/Kentucky) phone in and say
> that Encarnacion needs to be gotten rid of and hey, how about putting
> Ryan Freel at 3rd, I'm gonna say f**k it and vote democrat this fall.
> Leave the kid alone. Freel would strike out 100-125 times with no
> power if he played a full season and isnt going to outhit EE in any
> way shape or form. But of course that would be conveniently ignored by
> the same people who constantly critcize the reds hitters for the high
> K totals. I'm so glad Edwin is streaking hot right now. It should at
> least shut up a few of the guys. I heard one guy say that Edwin isnt
> nearly as good as his brother. I assume he meant ex-red juan. Ha! the
> jokes on him because A) they arent brothers and b) Juan is an average
> player at best and below average considering he's an outfielder.

Edwin has finally convinced me that he's never going to be a good major
league third baseman. It's just too bad. He started the season looking
very tentative at the plate. That seems to be gone.

> Dan O'Brien took a lot of crap about his performance as Reds GM but
> give him some credit for Bruce, Bailey, and Cueto who were all signed
> under his tenure. Consecutive 1st round picks on Bailey and Bruce. Not
> too bad. From what I understand he has really helped get the Reds
> involved in Latin America's talent pool again. That's a mark for Dan
> and a mark against Bowden who let things fall apart down there.

Bowden (like Jocketty) tends to view the farm system as trade bait for
major league players and as the playground for prospects on the fast track.

> Bowdens people signed Votto into this org which tells you how long
> Joeys been around.
>
> I'me pretty optimistic about this season just based on the starting
> pitching.
The talent base is still too thin. Hard to get your manager and your GM
on the same page when you've had three managers and two gm's in the last
year.

> After May 20, all bitching or otherwise about this team shall be
> considered legitimate and appropriate. Until then, its really to early
> to tell much. I have spoken.
cool.

dfs

On Apr 25, 7:52*am, David Short
<David.no.Sh...@Spam.Wright.Please.edu> wrote:
> henrepor...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > For the past few years I've been reading on this site and hearing on
> > the talk shows from fans about what this organization really needs to
> > fix things up. We need a "proven" closer. we got that. We need a
> > "proven" manager. we got that too. Now we finally have the "proven" GM
> > that people have been clamoring for. The Reds shouldn't have a losing
> > season for some time to come.
>
> > *As for me, I've been saying that we need starting pitching that can
> > get us past the 6th inning without people leaving early to beat
> > traffic. Were on the 5th turn through the rotation and what do we
> > have. Harang is a stud. Volquez is a revelation. Cueto has been league
> > average so far. Arroyo and etc have sucked bowls. were 3/4 of *the way
> > there.
>
> > *Personally, I think they pushed the panic button too early on Fogg.
> > Not that I'm a big supporter, but 2 lousy starts sandwiched around a
> > pretty good one is no reason to make a move.
>
> Josh Fogg has done nothing to indicate that he's a major league quality
> pitcher. Ever. Eric Milton and Jimmy Haynes BOTH have more of a resume
> of success than Josh Fogg. You like Dave Williams? You're gonna love
> Josh Fogg. The only reason to keep him around was to have an arm to give
> starts to in case the kids didn't merit PT.
>
>
>
>
>
> > *Regarding Arroyo, theres either something wrong with him - Brantley
> > keeps saying the velocity isnt there, Pole says he can find nothing
> > mechanically wrong - or the league has him figured to a T and Bronson
> > needs to make a crapload of adjustments to his approach. I'm guessing
> > his arm is sore, tired or darn near dead and it hasnt been diagnosed
> > as such yet. This is a big blow to Reds playoff hopes. we need him
> > around to eat up 200 innings at league average or best. I have
> > reasonable doubts about the diminutive Cueto and inefficient Volquez
> > being effective for that long.
> > *Last week i hear the usual yokles on Cinci talk radio (via XM)
> > complaining about the team and offering up solutions, most of which
> > typically involve playing Ryan Freel. If I hear another redneck (i.e.
> > white guy from a rural area in Ohio/Indiana/Kentucky) phone in and say
> > that Encarnacion needs to be gotten rid of and hey, how about putting
> > Ryan Freel at 3rd, I'm gonna say f**k it and vote democrat this fall.
> > Leave the kid alone. Freel would strike out 100-125 times with no
> > power if he played a full season and isnt going to outhit EE in any
> > way shape or form. But of course that would be conveniently ignored by
> > the same people who constantly critcize the reds hitters for the high
> > K totals. I'm so glad Edwin is streaking hot right now. It should at
> > least shut up a few of the guys. I heard one guy say that Edwin isnt
> > nearly as good as his brother. I assume he meant ex-red juan. Ha! the
> > jokes on him because A) they arent brothers and b) Juan is an average
> > player at best and below average considering he's an outfielder.
>
> Edwin has finally convinced me that he's never going to be a good major
> league third baseman. It's just too bad. He started the season looking
> very tentative at the plate. That seems to be gone.
>
> > *Dan O'Brien took a lot of crap about his performance as Reds GM but
> > give him some credit for Bruce, Bailey, and Cueto who were all signed
> > under his tenure. Consecutive 1st round picks on Bailey and Bruce. Not
> > too bad. From what I understand he has really helped get the Reds
> > involved in Latin America's talent pool again. That's a mark for Dan
> > and a mark against Bowden who let things fall apart down there.
>
> Bowden (like Jocketty) tends to view the farm system as trade bait for
> major league players and as the playground for prospects on the fast track..
>
> > *Bowdens people signed Votto into this org which tells you how long
> > Joeys been around.
>
> > I'me pretty optimistic about this season just based on the starting
> > pitching.
>
> The talent base is still too thin. Hard to get your manager and your GM
> on the same page when you've had three managers and two gm's in the last
> year.
>
> > After May 20, all bitching or otherwise about this team shall be
> > considered legitimate and appropriate. Until then, its really to early
> > to tell much. I have spoken.
>
> cool.
>
> dfs- Hide quoted text -
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I was sitting @ a bar last night when the topic of Trade Adam Dunn to
the Bengals for Chad Johnson came up. Chad has the wheels and can
catch. He will not have to run over the middle @ GABP, Adam can play
D-line or LB for the Bengals, He doesnt have an arrest record. I
think its a win win for both Cincy franchises.

[email]shark265@bright.net[/email] wrote:
> I was sitting @ a bar last night when the topic of Trade Adam Dunn to
> the Bengals for Chad Johnson came up. Chad has the wheels and can
> catch. He will not have to run over the middle @ GABP, Adam can play
> D-line or LB for the Bengals, He doesnt have an arrest record. I
> think its a win win for both Cincy franchises.

Awesome

dfs

On Apr 25, 10:34*am, David Short
<David.no.Sh...@Spam.Wright.Please.edu> wrote:
> shark...@bright.net wrote:
> > I was sitting @ a bar last night when the topic of Trade Adam Dunn to
> > the Bengals for Chad Johnson came up. *Chad has the wheels and can
> > catch. *He will not have to run over the middle @ GABP, Adam can play
> > D-line or LB for the Bengals, He doesnt have an arrest record. *I
> > think its a win win for both Cincy franchises.
>
> Awesome
>
> dfs

There was LOTS of beer being consumed when that topic was brought up.
As if you didnt know already