Soriano

When he returns he absolutely must be placed in the 5th or even 6th slot.
It's obvious that the top of the order is working well with
Johnson/Fontenot/Theriot. Putting Soriano in the 1 or 2 hole will mess
things up. I could see moving Fukadome to the 2hole and putting Soriano in
the 5 hole. We can afford one free swinger in the lineup but not at the
top of the lineup.

It may turn out that Soriano going on the 15-day DL was a
blessing-in-disguise. I think Lou now has the confirmation he needed and
evidence to support moving Soriano where he belongs in the lineup.

Moving Fukadome to batting second would be a mistake. Batting fifth he
breaks up a lineup that is righthanded dominate, three through eigth and
gives you a tough out between your sluggers. He also provides cover for
Ramirez. Yesterday the Mets used three reliefers in the eigth ining and
still got burned. If you look at the past week and what Fukadome has done
to start or contribute to rallies. Johnson or Theriot handle the bat and
either would make a decent number two hitter. He is to valuable in the
fifth spot.

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"wolfer" <wolf76@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message
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> Moving Fukadome to batting second would be a mistake. Batting fifth he
> breaks up a lineup that is righthanded dominate, three through eigth and
> gives you a tough out between your sluggers. He also provides cover for
> Ramirez. Yesterday the Mets used three reliefers in the eigth ining and
> still got burned. If you look at the past week and what Fukadome has done
> to start or contribute to rallies. Johnson or Theriot handle the bat and
> either would make a decent number two hitter. He is to valuable in the
> fifth spot.

I agree. But will they realistically bat Soriano 6th? I can't see him
being that far down in the lineup although it makes the most sense. Perhaps
moving Fukadome to 6th would be more realistic.

Soriano has been an All-Star leadoff man in both leagues. Every drop in
lineup position costs him 20 at-bats per year. When Reed Johnson and Ryan
Theriot make the All-Star team it might be time to move Soriano to 6th in
the order.


"Eric Margheim" <nospam***emargheim@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> "wolfer" <wolf76@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message
> news:70663ad277ceb5339380ead5d2c0b548@localhost.ta lkaboutbaseball.com...
>> Moving Fukadome to batting second would be a mistake. Batting fifth he
>> breaks up a lineup that is righthanded dominate, three through eigth and
>> gives you a tough out between your sluggers. He also provides cover for
>> Ramirez. Yesterday the Mets used three reliefers in the eigth ining and
>> still got burned. If you look at the past week and what Fukadome has done
>> to start or contribute to rallies. Johnson or Theriot handle the bat and
>> either would make a decent number two hitter. He is to valuable in the
>> fifth spot.
>
> I agree. But will they realistically bat Soriano 6th? I can't see him
> being that far down in the lineup although it makes the most sense.
> Perhaps moving Fukadome to 6th would be more realistic.
>

"Winnemac Mike" <longlake@mc.net> wrote in message
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> Soriano has been an All-Star leadoff man in both leagues. Every drop in
> lineup position costs him 20 at-bats per year. When Reed Johnson and Ryan
> Theriot make the All-Star team it might be time to move Soriano to 6th in
> the order.
>

He's had leg injuries for the past two years now so he won't be running as
much. His OBP is not good for a lead-off man. He hasn't been an all-star
because he's batted lead-off. He's been an all-star because of his
production. What he loses in AB per year he will gain in RBIs which is
more important to the TEAM than his ABs.

"Eric Margheim" <nospam***emargheim@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Winnemac Mike" <longlake@mc.net> wrote in message
> news:UNWdnfd2FOvsNZLVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@mc.net...
>> Soriano has been an All-Star leadoff man in both leagues. Every drop in
>> lineup position costs him 20 at-bats per year. When Reed Johnson and
>> Ryan Theriot make the All-Star team it might be time to move Soriano to
>> 6th in the order.
>>
>
> He's had leg injuries for the past two years now so he won't be running as
> much. His OBP is not good for a lead-off man. He hasn't been an
> all-star because he's batted lead-off. He's been an all-star because of
> his production. What he loses in AB per year he will gain in RBIs which
> is more important to the TEAM than his ABs.

Nevertheless, Lou said today that he will go back into the lead-off spot
when he returns. I guess it all comes down to where Soriano feels more
comfortable batting and where, therefore, management feels he will be most
productive.

"Claude" <claude@hatesspam.com> wrote in message
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> "Eric Margheim" <nospam***emargheim@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Winnemac Mike" <longlake@mc.net> wrote in message
>> news:UNWdnfd2FOvsNZLVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@mc.net...
>>> Soriano has been an All-Star leadoff man in both leagues. Every drop in
>>> lineup position costs him 20 at-bats per year. When Reed Johnson and
>>> Ryan Theriot make the All-Star team it might be time to move Soriano to
>>> 6th in the order.
>>>
>>
>> He's had leg injuries for the past two years now so he won't be running
>> as much. His OBP is not good for a lead-off man. He hasn't been an
>> all-star because he's batted lead-off. He's been an all-star because of
>> his production. What he loses in AB per year he will gain in RBIs which
>> is more important to the TEAM than his ABs.
>
> Nevertheless, Lou said today that he will go back into the lead-off spot
> when he returns. I guess it all comes down to where Soriano feels more
> comfortable batting and where, therefore, management feels he will be most
> productive.

He did? Well that sucks.

"Eric Margheim" <nospam***emargheim@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> "Claude" <claude@hatesspam.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Eric Margheim" <nospam***emargheim@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> newsv-dnUeJsMC0Fo3VnZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@centurytel.net...
>>>
>>> "Winnemac Mike" <longlake@mc.net> wrote in message
>>> news:UNWdnfd2FOvsNZLVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@mc.net...
>>>> Soriano has been an All-Star leadoff man in both leagues. Every drop
>>>> in lineup position costs him 20 at-bats per year. When Reed Johnson
>>>> and Ryan Theriot make the All-Star team it might be time to move
>>>> Soriano to 6th in the order.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He's had leg injuries for the past two years now so he won't be running
>>> as much. His OBP is not good for a lead-off man. He hasn't been an
>>> all-star because he's batted lead-off. He's been an all-star because
>>> of his production. What he loses in AB per year he will gain in RBIs
>>> which is more important to the TEAM than his ABs.
>>
>> Nevertheless, Lou said today that he will go back into the lead-off spot
>> when he returns. I guess it all comes down to where Soriano feels more
>> comfortable batting and where, therefore, management feels he will be
>> most productive.
>
> He did? Well that sucks.

Here's the link.

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