ESPN Bemoaning the Sonics Leaing Seattle...

And yet they kiss the asses of the Colts and Lakers. At least the
Sonics don't get to take their "history" along with them, like the
fraud Lakers who claim they won "14 World Titles" when in fact, the
"MInneapolis Lakers" won 5 of those titles. I mean, does anybody
really believe that the "Indianapolis Colts" were the champions of
Super Bowl 5?

"Orwell" <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote in message
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> And yet they kiss the asses of the Colts and Lakers. At least the
> Sonics don't get to take their "history" along with them, like the
> fraud Lakers who claim they won "14 World Titles" when in fact, the
> "MInneapolis Lakers" won 5 of those titles. I mean, does anybody
> really believe that the "Indianapolis Colts" were the champions of
> Super Bowl 5?

franchises that move should have to change their names and logos.

At least they were still the Colts. The thing that bugs me even more is
when a network is showing highlights from a past edition of a golf
tournament (or any event whose name has since changed) and refer to it by
its present name. For example, showing a clip of Stewart Cink winning the
1997 Canon Greater Hartford Open and having a graphic on the screen saying
"Winner - 1997 Travelers Championship." No it wasn't/

Lee

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In article <D_mdnXOsB4nBP_DVnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@rcn.net>,
Raymond O'Hara <raymond-ohara@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Orwell" <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote in message
>news:5eb3def7-68d3-4461-8c49-d494e4fed3a9@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> And yet they kiss the asses of the Colts and Lakers. At least the
>> Sonics don't get to take their "history" along with them, like the
>> fraud Lakers who claim they won "14 World Titles" when in fact, the
>> "MInneapolis Lakers" won 5 of those titles. I mean, does anybody
>> really believe that the "Indianapolis Colts" were the champions of
>> Super Bowl 5?
>
>franchises that move should have to change their names and logos.

The Sonics name and colors stay with Seattle in this case. Which is cool.

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On Jul 3, 9:18*am, Orwell <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote:
> And yet they kiss the asses of the Colts and Lakers. *At least the
> Sonics don't get to take their "history" along with them, like the
> fraud Lakers who claim they won "14 World Titles" when in fact, the
> "MInneapolis Lakers" won 5 of those titles. *I mean, does anybody
> really believe that the "Indianapolis Colts" were the champions of
> Super Bowl 5?

The Utah JAZZ always bothers me. Give that name back to New Orleans.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:18:51 -0700 (PDT), Orwell <orwellnelson@usa.com>
wrote:

>And yet they kiss the asses of the Colts and Lakers. At least the
>Sonics don't get to take their "history" along with them, like the
>fraud Lakers who claim they won "14 World Titles" when in fact, the
>"MInneapolis Lakers" won 5 of those titles. I mean, does anybody
>really believe that the "Indianapolis Colts" were the champions of
>Super Bowl 5?

Generally, when an entire organization moves as a unit, maintaining
its roster, front office staff, salary structure and scouting
department intact, I think the records and history belong with that
team as well. That's why the Cleveland Browns' legacy rightly belongs
with the Ravens, and not the Browns, ironically.

On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:47:44 -0700 (PDT), Godzilla
<godzilla1171@msn.com> wrote:

>On Jul 3, 9:18*am, Orwell <orwellnel...@usa.com> wrote:
>> And yet they kiss the asses of the Colts and Lakers. *At least the
>> Sonics don't get to take their "history" along with them, like the
>> fraud Lakers who claim they won "14 World Titles" when in fact, the
>> "MInneapolis Lakers" won 5 of those titles. *I mean, does anybody
>> really believe that the "Indianapolis Colts" were the champions of
>> Super Bowl 5?
>
>The Utah JAZZ always bothers me. Give that name back to New Orleans.

No doubt. They could call themselves the Utah Smiths or something.

Coming soon to an NBA CIty near you: Hello, Mr. Mayor, err your honor!,
This is David Stern and this is a stick up. Either you build us a new area,
provide us parking revenue and give us tax free status on luxury box
revenues, or your NBA team is moving.... What a rank move the NBA to
remove Seattle after years of undeserved support.

On Jul 13, 12:14*pm, "Jackie Langley" <jackie...@charter.net> wrote:
> Coming soon to an NBA CIty near you: *Hello, Mr. Mayor, err your honor!,
> This is David Stern and this is a stick up. *Either you build us a new area,
> provide us parking revenue and give us tax free status on luxury box
> revenues, *or your NBA team is moving.... *What a rank move the NBA to
> remove Seattle after years of undeserved support.

The issue is that you need vision. Here in Boston, we have a
privately funded arena for the Celtcs and Bruins (Banknorth Garden), a
privately-funded football stadium (Gillette), and a baseball stadium
that has been almost completely renovated "in place" by private funds
(Fenway). All of them are hugely profitable, virtual money-machines
for the private investors. The best way is for there to be an owner
who is willing to invest in the team. If it needs to be public money,
then the public should demand the same benefits that any investor
would get.

It's great to have private investors but it's hard to compete privately if
your peers are being subsidized up the ying yang. And just because it's
public money doesn't guarantee the similar Red Sox/Celtics result, however,
the part about "demand..", I could see a day where public financing is
standard operating procedure with state legislator's using the leverage of
reduced or no public funds and passing such laws as demanding fighting in
hockey be a ten game suspension, requiring a specific diverse team roster,
or demanding cheer leaders for the Women's team. The NFL sticks up the
federal government for Super Bowl Security; Maybe 20 to 40M? (Any security
people here who could do a rough cut estimate?) on a game they are charging
over a million a minute for an ad. Public financing of sports teams is
going down a bad path. David Stern is maximizing his profits, partially
with taxpayer dollars.


"Orwell" <orwellnelson@usa.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 13, 12:14 pm, "Jackie Langley" <jackie...@charter.net> wrote:
> Coming soon to an NBA CIty near you: Hello, Mr. Mayor, err your honor!,
> This is David Stern and this is a stick up. Either you build us a new
> area,
> provide us parking revenue and give us tax free status on luxury box
> revenues, or your NBA team is moving.... What a rank move the NBA to
> remove Seattle after years of undeserved support.

The issue is that you need vision. Here in Boston, we have a
privately funded arena for the Celtcs and Bruins (Banknorth Garden), a
privately-funded football stadium (Gillette), and a baseball stadium
that has been almost completely renovated "in place" by private funds
(Fenway). All of them are hugely profitable, virtual money-machines
for the private investors. The best way is for there to be an owner
who is willing to invest in the team. If it needs to be public money,
then the public should demand the same benefits that any investor
would get.