Opinions please...

Recently I was in a game of eight-ball and my opponent called a straight-in
shot to a corner pocket. When he hit the object ball it bounced out of the
pocket, rolled 3 rails and ended up potted in the pocket he called anyway.
Is this a legal shot? He insisted it was. Seems to me it wasn't since his
original intent was to hit the object ball straight into the pocket with no
rail. Who's right??

frustrated user asks a rules question.


[url]http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules[/url]

By WPA/BCA/ACS rules, if he called the ball and pocket, it is a legal
shot ...

Carter Adams
[url]www.CartersBilliardsLibrary.com[/url]

On Apr 18, 9:39*pm, "frustrated user" <use...@p1s.com> wrote:
> Recently I was in a game of eight-ball and my opponent called a straight-in
> shot to a corner pocket. When he hit the object ball it bounced out of the
> pocket, rolled 3 rails and ended up potted in the pocket he called anyway.
> Is this a legal shot? He insisted it was. Seems to me it wasn't since his
> original intent was to hit the object ball straight into the pocket with no
> rail. Who's right??

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:42:47 -0500, "Gregory" <greyegg153@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>frustrated user asks a rules question.
>
>
>[url]http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules[/url]
>

Try [url]http://www.wpa-pool.com/download/WPA_Rules.pdf[/url] ...

-- Larry

"Carter Adams" wrote:
>
> By WPA/BCA/ACS rules, if he called the ball and pocket, it is a legal
> shot ...
>

Amen, Bro. However, if they were just playing "Bar Rules," often
incorrectly referred to as "Straight 8," then you must call ALL
kisses/caroms and rails that are to occur in the course of the shot -- any
variation from what is called is not considered legal. In this case
"Frustrated ..." would be RIGHT, and his opponent LOST by illegally
pocketing the 8, his opponent not having called the extra rails before his
shot.

Still, "Frustrated ..." nonetheless LOSES this argument, regardless of the
actual rule to be applied in this situation, because he failed to clarify
beforehand what set of rules were to be used. Bar Rules vary somewhat from
place-to-place. So, if you're unfamiliar with the place, or you're
unfamiliar with your opponent, ALWAYS clarify the rules IN ADVANCE -- TAKE
NOTHING FOR GRANTED!!!

If you DON'T wish to "insult" your opponent by first clarifying rules, then
you must take your lumps and learn in graduated steps via the
"positive/negative reinforcement" method ... ;->. Remember, it's only a
game! Unless, of course, you're playing for serious money -- in which case,
you're a fool for not getting rules clarification IN ADVANCE and THEN, if
you don't like the rules, you can effectively decide whether or not it's
worth it to play.

Mike Collier
Oak Harbor, WA

frustrated user wrote:
> Recently I was in a game of eight-ball and my opponent called a straight-in
> shot to a corner pocket. When he hit the object ball it bounced out of the
> pocket, rolled 3 rails and ended up potted in the pocket he called anyway.
> Is this a legal shot? He insisted it was. Seems to me it wasn't since his
> original intent was to hit the object ball straight into the pocket with no
> rail. Who's right??

If playing by BCA|WPA|VNEA|TAP|APA rule sets, it's a call pocket game,
meaning if you make a legal shot (hit one of your balls first for
example) then you only need to call the pocket, not all the wonderful
things it happens to do on the way to the pocket. Well, APA you don't
even need to call a pocket, any time one of your balls falls in any
pocket any where (except the 8) you keep on shooting.

--
Jack
[url]http://jbstein.com[/url]

On Apr 18, 8:39�pm, "frustrated user" <use...@p1s.com> wrote:
> Recently I was in a game of eight-ball and my opponent called a straight-in
> shot to a corner pocket. When he hit the object ball it bounced out of the
> pocket, rolled 3 rails and ended up potted in the pocket he called anyway.
> Is this a legal shot? He insisted it was. Seems to me it wasn't since his
> original intent was to hit the object ball straight into the pocket with no
> rail. Who's right??

My opinion:

Like one poster said, what rules were you playing by? I once played in
a tournament of "straight 8" bar rules. But, your ball could touch the
rail if it touched it one diamond before the pocket (shooting down the
rail). Strange to say the least.

Most of the "league" rules are put in place to avoid such arguments,
therefore, if the ball goes in the called pocket, it is good.

Hank <~~~ has seen some weird rules

frustrated user wrote:

> Is this a legal shot? He insisted it was. Seems to me it wasn't since
> his original intent was to hit the object ball straight into the pocket
> with no rail. Who's right??

Let me guess, it cost you a whole 50 cents.
Suck it up, and agree on which rules you are playing by before you start the
next game....

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Most leagues you'll have a a good shot and a win.
Most bars, if you claim it's a good shot, you'll leave with broken thumbs.

Dave "The Rooster" Henrie

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> frustrated user wrote:
>
>> Is this a legal shot? He insisted it was. Seems to me it wasn't since
>> his original intent was to hit the object ball straight into the pocket
>> with no rail. Who's right??
>
> Let me guess, it cost you a whole 50 cents.
> Suck it up, and agree on which rules you are playing by before you start
> the
> next game....
>
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