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04-26-2008, 02:02 AM
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Escobar?
What's the story, why was he pulled from the game?
Colin --------------------- "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to which an idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true" 
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04-26-2008, 02:57 AM
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Re: Escobar?
"Colin William" <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:67fgvgF2pbhdjU1@mid.individual.net... > What's the story, why was he pulled from the game? > > Colin > --------------------- > "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to which an > idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true" Sacrifice in the first inning. He left his index finger curled around the handle and got plunked when the pitch sailed inside. Throwing hand. Precautionary x-rays. I didn't hear the status. Robert
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#3
04-26-2008, 10:02 AM
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Re: Escobar?
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:57:51 -0400, "Robert Glenn Plotner"
<rgplotnerNOSPAMALOT@yahoo.com> wrote: >"Colin William" <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:67fgvgF2pbhdjU1@mid.individual.net... >> What's the story, why was he pulled from the game? >> >> Colin >> --------------------- >> "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to which an >> idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true" > >Sacrifice in the first inning. He left his index finger curled around the >handle and got plunked when the pitch sailed inside. Throwing hand. >Precautionary x-rays. I didn't hear the status. > >Robert > Didn't we learn how to hold the bat when bunting in Little League?
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#4
04-26-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: Escobar?
Ball hit his hand when he bunted...Seems to me he is about as good as
Furcal was...C <html> <body bgcolor="white" text="black"><body></html>
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#5
04-26-2008, 01:06 PM
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Re: Escobar?
On Apr 25, 10:57 pm, "Robert Glenn Plotner"
<rgplotnerNOSPAMA...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Colin William" <colintwill...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:67fgvgF2pbhdjU1@mid.individual.net... > > > What's the story, why was he pulled from the game? > > > Colin > > --------------------- > > "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to which an > > idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true" > > Sacrifice in the first inning. He left his index finger curled around the > handle and got plunked when the pitch sailed inside. Throwing hand. > Precautionary x-rays. I didn't hear the status. X-rays were negative. Day to day. s/
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#6
04-26-2008, 10:26 PM
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Re: Escobar?
who'sthat wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:57:51 -0400, "Robert Glenn Plotner" >> <rgplotnerNOSPAMALOT@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> "Colin William" <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:67fgvgF2pbhdjU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> What's the story, why was he pulled from the game? >>>> >>>> Colin >>>> --------------------- >>>> "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to >>>> which an idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true" >>> >>> Sacrifice in the first inning. He left his index finger curled >>> around the handle and got plunked when the pitch sailed inside. >>> Throwing hand. Precautionary x-rays. I didn't hear the status. >>> >>> Robert >>> >> Didn't we learn how to hold the bat when bunting in Little League? Yes. And as career advice goes, that's apparently not as important as we were led to believe. <shrug> -- And I know I could still play left field, I just know it. Scott
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#7
04-27-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Escobar?
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:26:53 -0500, "bgs" <bgs@mindless.com> wrote:
>who'sthat wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:57:51 -0400, "Robert Glenn Plotner" >>> <rgplotnerNOSPAMALOT@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Colin William" <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:67fgvgF2pbhdjU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> What's the story, why was he pulled from the game? >>>>> >>>>> Colin >>>>> --------------------- >>>>> "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to >>>>> which an idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true" >>>> >>>> Sacrifice in the first inning. He left his index finger curled >>>> around the handle and got plunked when the pitch sailed inside. >>>> Throwing hand. Precautionary x-rays. I didn't hear the status. >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>> Didn't we learn how to hold the bat when bunting in Little League? > >Yes. And as career advice goes, that's apparently not as important as we >were led to believe. <shrug> > >-- And I know I could still play left field, I just know it. >Scott > They knew how to bunt 30 years ago...they just don't teach it any more. Just like pitchers...at one time EVERY pitcher threw 200+ innings a year and it was no big deal. Now they baby the pitchers from day one" they hit off batting T's in Little League, outlaw curve balls and limit their innings even in the minor leagues and you have pitchers who can only go 6 innings a night. With all the sports medicine advances and better diet they should be throwing at least 250 innings but they can't. It makes no sense other than the average American just isn't as tough as he used to be.
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#8
04-27-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Escobar?
who'sthat wrote:
> They knew how to bunt 30 years ago...they just don't teach it any > more. Just like pitchers...at one time EVERY pitcher threw 200+ > innings a year and it was no big deal. Now they baby the pitchers from > day one" they hit off batting T's in Little League, outlaw curve balls > and limit their innings even in the minor leagues and you have > pitchers who can only go 6 innings a night. With all the sports > medicine advances and better diet they should be throwing at least 250 > innings but they can't. It makes no sense other than the average > American just isn't as tough as he used to be. I think that says more about the evolution of the strategy of bringing fresh arms out of the bullpen, than it is any inability of starters to be able to pitch more innings. -- Now Playing: The Zombies - A Rose for Emily (mono) "He has more patience and kindness than grandma. There's those grandmas that have all the patience in the world with kids, and Bobby (Cox) has that. I don't know how he does it, but he does it." - Terry Pendleton
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#9
04-27-2008, 04:06 PM
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Re: Escobar?
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:50:07 -0700, Tarkus
<karnevil9@atlantabraves.net> wrote: >who'sthat wrote: >> They knew how to bunt 30 years ago...they just don't teach it any >> more. Just like pitchers...at one time EVERY pitcher threw 200+ >> innings a year and it was no big deal. Now they baby the pitchers from >> day one" they hit off batting T's in Little League, outlaw curve balls >> and limit their innings even in the minor leagues and you have >> pitchers who can only go 6 innings a night. With all the sports >> medicine advances and better diet they should be throwing at least 250 >> innings but they can't. It makes no sense other than the average >> American just isn't as tough as he used to be. > >I think that says more about the evolution of the strategy of bringing >fresh arms out of the bullpen, than it is any inability of starters to >be able to pitch more innings. Then how does the rash of arm problems fit in to your theory?
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#10
04-27-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: Escobar?
Lookout wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:50:07 -0700, Tarkus > <karnevil9@atlantabraves.net> wrote: > >> who'sthat wrote: >>> They knew how to bunt 30 years ago...they just don't teach it any >>> more. Just like pitchers...at one time EVERY pitcher threw 200+ >>> innings a year and it was no big deal. Now they baby the pitchers from >>> day one" they hit off batting T's in Little League, outlaw curve balls >>> and limit their innings even in the minor leagues and you have >>> pitchers who can only go 6 innings a night. With all the sports >>> medicine advances and better diet they should be throwing at least 250 >>> innings but they can't. It makes no sense other than the average >>> American just isn't as tough as he used to be. >> I think that says more about the evolution of the strategy of bringing >> fresh arms out of the bullpen, than it is any inability of starters to >> be able to pitch more innings. > > Then how does the rash of arm problems fit in to your theory? There are many more pitchers now than ever before, and thus, more pitchers to become injured. And many of those are relievers, who clearly aren't pitching anywhere near 100 innings, let alone 200. It's also likely that both players and teams are more careful with injuries these days, contributing to longer careers (along with the medical advances you mentioned). There is a lot more money at stake for both sides. Also, it's likely that starters paced themselves more in the old days, because they knew they were going to be pitching deeper into games. Now a guy like John Smoltz, for example, can let it all hang out every inning, because he knows he's not expected to necessarily pitch deep into the game. That not only decreases his innings pitched, but could also be a contributer to his arm troubles. I've no doubt that pitchers could go longer these days, if that was the desired strategy. The result would be higher scoring games (at least on the side playing teams employing that strategy) and shorter careers. In short, we both agree that pitchers are handled more carefully these days. Where we differ is in their "ability" to go longer, if so desired. -- Now Playing: NFL Draft Fans of Braves and Music: [url]http://www.last.fm/group/Atlanta%2BBraves[/url]
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